So? I'm glad they did too.

Let's make this explicit.

Nothing in the article says that C4's claim that "Chantelle auditioned for Big Brother 6 as a normal contestant" is false.

It doesn't even say it. Indeed, everything it does say is consistent with C4's claim. That's before we even consider the question of whether we want to believe the obnoxious tabloid in question.

I read the article as if they were trawling for a lookalike and Chantelle just happened to fit the bill.


Having looked a the agency's website, I'm not surprised they chose Chantelle, if that is what happened, the rest of them are rubbish

The article says they were "looking for people who could impersonate celebrities" -- as in carry off the sort of deception Chantelle is now engaged in -- not necessarily a lookalike, and not to pick them becuase they were a lookalike.

But the article only suggests (without ever saying it) that she was found via the agency. Nothing in the article says she couldn't have auditioned in the normal way.

They could have contacted angencies to get them to prod their members into turning up for the auditions. That would be allowed after all.

What do you mean by 'so?'

You've just simply split what I said in two and completely changed the context.

'So' nothing.

You were agreeing with a poster about the evening standard making out that she was famous.....I only said that they didn't say anything of the sort and higlighted this point by pointing out that they said that she was 'given a break'.

'Lets make this explict'
You like Chantelle so much that you are just desperately reacting to anything anybody says to do with Chantelle because you aren't reading what people are actually saying, aren't you?

One poster implied that Chantelle was already a celebrity, and you are just blind to the fact that other people are saying something completely diferent and making more of a point about Chantelle possibly being the hired help.

You are not reading what Moogster posted, and you aren't reading what I've posted.
From your "So? I'm glad they did" reply it appears that you are just unecessarily defending Chantelle on instinct and gut reaction because you like her so much.
You're defending her on what you think people have said as opposed to what people were actually talking about.

I think your replies in the thread have been a bit misguided because you are misunderstanding what has been said because you're not reading and are just blindly defending.

That's a nice coincidence isn't it?

She is found via the agency due to Endemol asking for somebody like her,....but she also just by chance happened to be applying to be on Big Brother.

Imagine how they all laughed when they realised the irony of this hilarious coincidence.


There's nothing to stop them putting somebody they've already hired through the auditions just for the sake of procedure and make everything look more honest than it might actually be.
It would be a piece of piss to fast-track somebody through the audition process.

She was in the same dry run as Eugene.... I knew I recognised her when I saw her, then I realised I had a picture of her at the last night party, which all the "spare" parts attended.

So as far as I know, no fast track or anything, she just didn't quite scrape in last time.

Steve

Cheers for the solid info IWEG, good to "see" you still around.

Hows Eugene doing?


Rgeards

Eugene's doing ok..... suddenly everyone wants to talk to him for his opinion on CBB4 (which, to be honest, I don't really think he has!)

Nice to "see" you too lol

That doesn't mean she wasn't fast-tracked through auditions at all.
How is what you say proof that she wasn't?

The idea of having her fast-tracked through auditons would be to make it look authentic, and for other housemates to have met her at auditions would be the whole point so it all looks plausible.

i think she would have been great on bb6, shame she didnt make it

Chantelle is not the only HM that could be described in those terms.

Well they should bring back hanging fro this shouldn't they?

Very serious!

I said "as far as I know"!

The audition process isn't that long, after the first one, there weren't lots and lots of stages for Eugene.

The main one really was the dry run! So the people who fast tracked were those who didn't take part in either one.

why would bb fast track anyone through to the dry run? surely if they thourght she was so great they would have put her in the house.
it makes perfect sense that when they came up with the concept for celeb bb 4 and needed a non celeb they would think of someone who they thourght was good in the dry run and we know she was in that.

the one who saw her at BB6 final night. I *know* she was a dry-runner for BB6. Endemol do *not* need to HIRE these people! they spend their entire year begging to be on the show...and this particular girl, as they TOLD us, was in the BB6 audition process. How transparent does it have to be? Big Brother are taking the piss out of celebrity itself, they are waving a flag saying "we devalued celebrity!" by putting just the kind of person who spends their life trying to be on reality TV, in ther with the "real" "celebs".

did Davina say she was a promotions model who'd worked as a look-a-like when she was going INTO the house?

Nope... no comments like that or about her Paris Hilton work...

its not an issue now. As there is no prize money I presume she is getting paid - which makes hiring her appropriate? She didn't get into BB6 which means that she wasn't an improper HM there either. The only criteria for her to be there now is not being a celebrity and her being a celebrity impersonator logically adds to the joke as she impersonates a celebity. we could have a celebrity impersonator winning for pretending to be a celebrity - which is actually a good joke on celebrities.

The general issue is complicated as many people who would have the urge to go on BB would belong to the entertainment fringes or be drama students or the like. Where would you draw the line - school play, third body in Casualty, model, drama student, back-end of a pantomine horse? The problem surely is if they pick people to act certain roles rather than people who fit them - was Kemal acting throughout? Was Makosi?

She is far too normal though to fit in with the BB6 concept. They wanted rows and unlikeable people. She wouldn't fit. for a house of celebs though she is fine in a way a Shell or a Lesley or an Emma or a Saskia wouldn't be.

And in what way does Faria Alam qualify as a celebrity? She is simply somebody who was in the news for having affairs with two prominent men. Her own job was as a PA which doesn't sound like the career of a celebrity. Also, until this show I hadn't heard of her for ages, not since the scandals died down, in fact.

What do you mean it's not an issue? Oh because you decide it isn't an issue?
If somebody has something to discuss then it still is an issue, it's not for you to decide when a discussion ends.

Whatever I've posted is in relation to the subject of the thread......the article in 'The Evening Standard' that reports that Chantelle's agency was contacted by Endemol who were apparently looking for a celebrity impersonator.

That's nothing to do with getting paid expenses, it's all about being hired from an agency.

And you are somebody else who is confusing what was said. The original post wasn't about Chantelle being a celebrity, it was about her possibly being the hired help who came straight from an agency....that's the difference.

It can get a bit annoying when people respond with points to answer you about an argument that is nothing to do with me or the thread.
It feels like sometimes people just get what they think is the jist of a thread and just answer instinctively without really thinking about who said what, and then deviating away from what the original post was actually about.
I never made a point about Chantelle being a celebrity in the first place, and neither did Moogster.

we know for a fact she got to the final 30 or so to be on bb6 though.

Don't see the problem - they wanted someone to go into celeb BB. They knew about her from BB6 and had her agency address to contact her - or they went to the agencies looking for impersonators - or some combination of the two. The bottom line is I presume she is being paid to do the job? She can't be there only being paid expenses as a normal HM if there is no prize money on offer - she must be getting something -which means she is hired just like the celebs are - i suspect she is a lot cheaper.

The question would be important if she was hired as hired help for Bb6 - but she wasn't. The issue there is still Makosi and its a toss up there whether they went out and asked agencies for someone who fitted a role or got some actress to play a role they had written. Is Makosi there because they wanted a black girl with a positive job who had a big personality or was she there playing the role they wrote for her. As Bb6 seems not to have much plot beyond being set up for continous conflict its impossible to tell from the result - though I think she was that batty in real life.