weird innit?

He's portrayed by many as having few faults, being really mature and deals with everything well.
Yet the same person is the commended for admitting to his faults??

What gets me is how he is commended over the others for being self critical. Everyone in the house has been self critical, it's just that they don't feel the need to do it vocally every day.

I don't dislike the guy, just can't understand why he is portrayed as a saint who can do nothing wrong.

Kali I think he is a bit depressed and also reflective about the whole experience too. I think he's a lovely bloke but I also think Jades learning alot maybe not learnt but she's getting there too.

I think the objective of the speech was to talk about their highlights. I might be wrong about this. But if when preparing for the speech Alex realises that the question is wrong. It should be more like What have you learnt? and he then chooses to talk about this then I can't see how that is raining on everyone's parade. Everyone chose what they wanted to say and Alex's chose to reflect on his own experience which, in my opinion, was very interesting. It was no different to Jade talking about how she has argued with everyone or Johnny acknowledging that he didn't know Alex and has now changed his opinion on him. All the speeches were valid.

Candy

Most Alex fans are ok. It's just the ones who call Kate a "Tart" and then write "vote Alex" that create a bad reputation.

Well said Candy,

An excellent speech yourself,

I suppose it depends on how he came across to each of us, whilst he didn't actually go into specific details as to what has disappointed him about some of the things he has said and done.

I do believe he went in there in a positive frame of mind, he quickly went into a negative state of mind and only became positive when under the influence.

I think he has hopped from his Dad to Sandy to Adele to Tim and he has taken their views as to be his own, the 3 housemates were very negative people and they influenced Alex a great deal, and I don't know what the real Alex is like, although we have seen some of it this week.

When Alex has lightened up (normally alcohol induced) and played the game, he has been very entertaining but I'm afraid it was to far and few between for me, and he just got stuck in a rut.

You've got to admire the lad - IF he IS depressed I thought it was great how he picked himself up straight away and got involved in the dancing - partnering Jade - making her laugh -swinging her round.
Now he's in the bedroom with Jonny and chatting away about the products they have been given by Big Brother.
I think his speech was great - a bit worrying though - he has taken a risk in speaking so honestly - i hope people will be able to see that he is a genuine person and deserves to win.

It's not just Alex fans that were taken by his speech. I've got 6 mates here right now. We've been having a bevvy and watching E4 this evening, and they were totally won over by that speech. They see him as a totally honest guy. He didn't use his speech as a last gasp grasp for glory, where he could gush about how he loves his remaining HM's etc etc. He just spoke from the heart and, from the reaction in this room, my mates are vote from the heart tomorrow.

It's amazing that that one speech has changed their minds. They suddenly realise where he's coming from, about his whole BB experience.

Plus, I really enjoyed seeing him dancing with Jade earlier. They were just having a good laugh, and enjoying the moment.

Why is it just Alex supporters discussing Alex's speech and Anti-Alex running him/them down?

If you don't like Alex why not put your thoughts on the speech of your chosen one in a positive way?

Personally I thought they all made good speeches, every one different. I was even impressed with Jonny's.

JoJo4.
Although I am replying to your post much of what I am saying applies to all forum members who seem to have an issue with the fact that some of us like Alex.

What's it to you what type of people we are? Why always the personal attacks. Why do anti Alex forum members constantly feel the need to point out every mistake/fault that Alex has. You are mistaken if you think all of Alex's fans don't see his faults. The point is we like other things about him that outweigh his faults and we are not looking for perfection. Why the need to constantly justify our stance I will never understand. Every time I come on this forum and I find an Alex friendly thread. In comes the Alex bashers to bash up Alex and his fans. It rapidly becomes very unpleasant with people descending to hurling personal abuse and causing people to become defensive. It is a show and we will like who we like as they present themselves to us on the show.

Another thing I can't understand it why all the interest in Alex by people who dislike him. Why not start up pleasant threads about the house mates that you do like. You don't see me writing nasty pieces about Kate or Johnny and yet I'm not keen on them at all.

Candy

But it's very noticeable that at the height of a heated conversation he will refer to one of them as though that validates the point, just how would Alex have been if Sandy hadn't been in there and we all know how he enjoyed himself.

I remember with Alex's early eviction battles, a lot of support was to keep the miserable sod in, it makes for far more entertaining viewing.

[COLOR=red]I think Alex's speech came from the heart. He didnt have to pour out his feelings - he could have rambled on about the price of fish in Tesco. Well done Alex.....I hope you get everything you wish for..and more....you deserve it.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]Alex is the only one that has had me captivated throughout this years BB...he has been totally honest to himself, the other housemates and to the viewers.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]Whoever wins - there will only be one winner for me.[/COLOR]

Ok Fair enough

Why thank you kind Sir/Lady.

Candy

Yes you're right. I have noticed this too - that is that he appears to mention another person as if it validates his arguments and I'm not sure if this is what he is doing but I do think he also does it because it lends more weigh to his argument.
I do take things like this into consideration and my overall assessment of Alex is that on the whole, he holds his own because he has done so, very often. Take the Weegate affair. That incident alone earned him nominations not to mention that he constantly complained about the things he didn't like - thus earning him the title of whinger.

As for how he would have been if Sandy was still in. I do believe that Alex looked up to Sandy but he also agreed with Sandy. How would he have blended in if not for Sandy? I can't say he may have blended in or he may have become more estranged from the group. It's not easy to judge simply because Alex was either on the rich or poor side with more or less the same group of people for half the show. If there was no divide then we would know.

Candy

I can see what you're saying, but we're all watching it and entitiled to express our opinion however different. It's not just pro and anti people on here, I myself am stuck in the middle. I try so hard to like him passionately, but I can't.

I read all the posts and search for an understanding of him. Whenever I do feel "warm" towards him, he seems to get all negative with the others and put a downer on things. I've struggled to like him, but there's been nobody in there this year that has appealed to me strongly.

I'm not an "anti- Alex fan" type. I can't knock anyone for having a different view to me.

Isn't it interesting that barely any mention has been made of the other HMs speeches in a thread entitled 'After Dinner Speeches'? Maybe because Alex is the only one out of them who has really spoken from the heart & soul, as he has done from day 1. Good luck to him, I hope he realises how much support he has out here.

I know what you are saying... he does get negative with the others... The difference with me anyway is that I understand him for doing it. I, not being perfect myself, would have done the same (am not proud of that fact). The people that he is in the house with are not his cup of tea... I'm sure one could have a good night out with them, but after 9 weeks of loud talking, impressions, day xx in the BB house... I would find it v. hard to cope with, I would crave a sit down and a sensible conversation, with people exchanging views, and using their "real" voices...

I am not, and I am pretty sure that alex isnt either, a nasty person... I always try to take everyones point of view in consideration etc... but living in a house like this would have definitely brought the worse in me.

Mireille

It is so difficult at times living with your own family, brothers and sisters, sisters or just brothers, people you've known all your life. Let alone 12 strangers and not being able to get away when the going gets really tough, it is fraustrating to keep your cool. It is okay for us to be on the outside passing comments and judging, we really wouldn't know what to expect until we are in the situation. ... and a lot of us would be surprise at our behaviour too. I'm sure most of the HMs went in with preconceived ideas and have to realise you need to take each minute or hour as it comes. I personally couldn't do it and I take my hat off to those HMs that did especially the ones left behind.

I thank them for making the past few weeks an enjoyable and interesting program to watch.

All four speeches were from the heart, but I think what it was about Alex's is because he was conveying a heartfelt message to three people he has claimed to dislike. In fact I don't think he does dislike them and maybe him saying that he will be disgusted at some of the things he has done & said and believes he hasn't been himself, is probably planting a seed in their heads so when they see all he's said about them they will probably know he was telling them he made mistakes and forgive him.

All the speeches for me were good in thier own right from 4 individuals.

Jonny made a cracking speech, bit like a best man speech but very well done.

Jade, well you got to love her She tried extremely hard and Jade being Jade bought a smile to my face.

Kate came accross really well and said most of the things she wanted to say, again well done

Alex, well what can you say about his speech apart from I was taken aback with his heartfelt honesty, almost shed a little tear He learnt things about himself in that house that he did not like and conveyed this to his fellow housemates. He could have easily gone along with the 'I liked you all, however...........', line, but didn't. his message was quite clear, genuine, straight from the heart and without pulling punches.

now that I sober I Just been watching Alexs speech again on the E4 Highlight thread.

And I found it just as good as last night its so heart felt about his fears of coming into the house and what he fears when he comes out.

I think I will just give him a few more votes just for being so honest.

I'm in shock...I agree with you lol(only joking)

I thought his speech whether people liked it or not was heartfelt, he could have stood up there and said "Oh I've had a wonderful time, loved every minute, I love all the HM's, I'm so lucky to have been here" which I'm sure he knew he was "supposed" to say, but he didn't, he went up there and told the truth, I think the other three were in total awe of him after his speech. You could see how uncomfortable he was before he had to do the speech, as he knew he had to be true to himself and that it would more than likely be used against him.

Well after a bottle of wine I thought I was seeing things when they put live BB on Channel 4 (as you know I haven't got E4) and was made up to be able to see it live and I started watching just in time for Alex's speech. I didn't see the others so I can't comment on them. I was getting annoyed with Jade trying to chip in, I really don't know how they control themselves but Alex handled it well by carrying on. I felt he came accross as very honest, albeit not the happiest of speeches, but all the same well done to Alex. He hasn't lost my vote at all.

I don't know what happened in the diary room earlier though.

I dont believe he has sulked everytime hes been nominated. He mainly just got on with it and waited for the results on a Friday. His personality didnt change after each nomination.

He may be feeling a bit miffed that Kate had nominated him ( I dont know for sure, im not Alex) because they had started to become a little closer.
I believe that its not the nominations that bother Alex, its the fact that he feels Kate has played him for a fool.
Just what I think.......