i think ive sussed out whats happening here, because ive seen it happen in real life (ie outside BB!) on several occasions.

on the night of day 4, jodie behaved in a totally free spirited manner. there were no guards up, she was completely letting her hair down. she also had the attentions of the most attractive man in the house - preston.

behaving in a free spirited manner is something that george, rula, pete and michael would love to do, but will not permit themselves to do (note that they are all a LOT older than her, too, and have sunk into the same terrified state that many middle aged people sink into - ie fear of tapping into the free spiritedness of youth).

this has made the four of them feel inferior. her free spiritedness has highlighted their own uptightedness and fear of breaking out of the mould (and dont tell me that pete is a free spirit. hes not, hes the most tight and guarded of the lot of them).

for this, jodie had to be singled out and punished.

i believe this is the kernel, the SINGLE reason underlying the disgusting feeding frenzy that they have incited upon jodie.

ok, shes irritating, i imagine shes a right pain to live with, but despite this, and for the reason i have outlined above, she has been singled out and victimised.

as for playing the victim - i dont buy into that at all. sometimes, people simply ARE victims of a bad deed or deeds perpetrated against them.

If Jodie doesnt like being called names by people, then why does she do it herself, if she is a 'victim', she is also the perpertrator!

Whatever.. it is so nice not to hear her sounding off her nonsense all day all night long...

Moonsparkle, are you very young?

at no time has jodie been as vicious towards others in the house as they have been towards her. when has she called people the kind of names she was called last night? she hasnt.

see my profile pic. im 46 and a quarter and in june im going to be a grandma

imo youre not old until your body packs up and you cant get around. many people sink into middle age from their late twenties onwards.

being middle aged is a choice. a choice to stop taking risks, to stifle your free spiritedness.

i tend to agree with you

i dont think she has been singled out by them because of her me me attitude

i think its because they see her as a threat, she is not conforming to what the oldies think everyone should be

BTW i am not young

I might not agree with everything you have said there, but I do believe threats to others gameplans are singled out. It happened to Science in BB6. Once one threat to a gameplan is finally eliminated, then another is found and victimised until they are if they can manouvere it that way eliminated, allowing some in the houses gameplans to come together. Having said that, nothing wrong with a gameplan at all, but not at the expense of bullying other's. Cameron was one of the most adept BB bullies I have ever seen to get his gameplan working.

I am not really a Jodie fan, but Michael Barrymore and to a lesser extent Pete Burns are a pair of bullies.

I wasnt talking about her in the house. She walked into the house saying she wanted everyone to see a different side to her but she hasnt shown it, yet. All i have seen is someone playing a victim. She recieved 8 nominations, i dont see that as coincidence. She wakes up negative and in return negativity is shown towards her, she brings it on herself.

Don't you dare try to discredit this poster by patronising them upon the issue of their age, if you disagree with the post then criticise it, the age of the poster is irrelevant.

BTW i tend to agree with you moonsparkle with your observation.

Do you think Jodie was trying to bully Pete about his coat?

No not at all, i think she genuinely has a strong belief against wearing fur, and was simply voicing her opinion which she is entitled to, without having bullies gang up on her for daring to have an opinion (probably something they did not expect her to have)

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no way. she was pointing out her objections to the wearing of fur and because she is being victimised, everyone turned against her for it.

if the tables had been turned, and it had been jodie wearing a gorilla coat, can you imagine the flak and hounding she would have received for it? she would have been hung drawn and quartered.

I think she is entitled to that view but when Pete first wore the coat I watched Jodie go to every housemate and complain about him and wanted them to ignore him as she was doing this was the day before they actually had the argument about it.

See my post below, I have no problem with her confronting him about it but she originally wanted the rest of the housemates to ignore him when he first wore it.

wasnt it galloway who first suggested HMs should ignore him

george is quite good at giving others bullets to shoot with

Then so be it, perhaps she did go about expressing her displeasure in the wrong way initially, but that still does not justify her awful treatment by the likes of Burns and Galloway for voicing her opinion.

Moon,

like yourself, I have ambled into my 40's happily and, if truth be told, not feeling much different than in my late 20's.

What comes with age, though, is experience and a keener foresight than before. This is what I heard Pete & Michael trying to explain to Jodie. A little exasperatedly, I agree, but trying to offer some advice.

Mr B, in particular, could give her some insight into how press vilification can have a devastating effect on someone but Ms Marsh hasn't learnt how to listen to anyone. I imagine this is a lot due to the nature of the business she is in. But she has made her bed...

Jodie cannot seem to shake off that youthful arrogance that she knows best. Bless her, she is hardly the sharpest tool in the box but I hope she will listen to people that are trying to help her.

And sometimes lying legs akimbo on a worktop is just not dignified. Free-spiritedness may allow her to skip naked down an alleyway without a care in the world .. but in reality there are some nasty sorts in that world.

If she wants respect she should stop acting like trash.

the only reason JM is anti-fur is because she thinks it increases her public profile, she hasn't the wit to understand why the wearing of fur is such an abomination.

If it suddenly became the IN thing for celebrities to be seen flaunting fur, then I think JM would be first in the queue for an animal pelt.

thats a fair point jilly. its wrong to try and get other people to ignore one person, but some animal lovers feel very passionately about the fur and conservation issue and seeing someone walk around in the coat of a dead gorilla would be extremely upsetting to them. im not saying by a long shot that jodie is perfect...none of us are...what im saying is that she does not deserve to have been mercilessly bullied by those who are older than her and should know better.

even worse, they are wrapping their bullying up in the pretty wrapping paper of "care" and "concern". i can now predict what rula is going to come out with when she talks about jodie in such earnest "caring" terms.

its bullying at its MOST insidious. its emotional abuse. "im only doing this to try and help you but you wont listen".

its a tactic commonly used by many abusive husbands towards their spouses.

I don't agree with the middle sentance, my body packed up in my late teens due to arthritis but my mind is still young. I am 53 on the outside and 18 on the inside, I keep being told by my kids to grow up but I refuse to do so.

I think the reason they are upset with Jodie is not as you expressed but more to do with her attitude. She has been complaining since she entered the house about being a victim and the papers etc having a go at her. But she has done nothing to help herself, from the moment she entered the house she was making bitchy comments firstlly about Faria.

The others have listened to her and tried to give her some advise based on their experience of the buisness but she has just thrown it back in their faces and carried on as she always has. This has understandably made them a bit angry, this together with her continued moaning led to the arguments. Several of them have tried to include her in conversations etc but she has now cut herslf off.

When she entered the house I thought she was going to make a good housemate based on what I have seen of her in other shows and prove all her critics wrong. But having watched her on live stream etc I am begining to think that what the papers and her other critics say about her is the real Jodie. I now want her out ASAP, partlly for her own sanity.

if you follow the fashion industry, youll know that fur HAS made a big come back recently. jodie is genuine.

Personal moral opinions. In victorian times they'd be using the equivalent of the word 'Trash' to describe almost ALL of the current female BB hm's. Jodies 'crime' is to express her sexuality. this isnt a crime aginst OTHER people, so, imo, noone has a right to dictate to her (sorry 'give advice') on how to conduct herself. live and let live, if it doesnt harm you personally.
Why should appearing naked be a green light for all sorts of abuse. Pete says 'thats the way it is'. Thats a cop out imo. again its blaming the victim for the 'crimes' of the perpatrators.
'thats the way it is' has been used as an excuse for ages for allowing stereotypical ideas and actions to be viewed as 'the norm'. I hate to think what this country would be like if everyone accepted 'thats the way it is' 200 years ago.

That is true. She is not half as aggressive, nasty, egotistical or vicious as Barrrymore, Burns or Galloway have shown themselves to be. She is more like a normal person than they, as are Preston and Chantelle. The young people have shown themselves to be nicer characters in many ways.

There''s a big difference between being "free spirited" and acting like a trollop