Is there such a beast

JGalagh · 13-01-2006, 16:35

I would like a TV with the following spec

1 28" or 32" CRT (Preferably slimline)

2 Digital Tuner

3 HD Ready

I can get 1&2 or 1&3 but not 1&2&3

Anyone ?

TIA

sanderton · 13-01-2006, 16:44

No, no such thing. No-one is bringing CRT HD sets out over here. Where have you seen 1&3?

camaj · 13-01-2006, 19:03

Why would you want CRT? The closet thing to CRT is SED displays and they won't be out for a good 6 months yet and they might be really expensive to start with

sanderton · 14-01-2006, 00:12

For SD signals, you still get a better picture from CRT than LCD/plasma.

JGalagh · 17-01-2006, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanderton

No, no such thing. No-one is bringing CRT HD sets out over here. Where have you seen 1&3?

digiuk.com Samsung WS32Z308P

sanderton · 17-01-2006, 17:07

That TV is not HD Ready.

It does have a component input which supposedly supports 1080i, but that doesn't mean it displays HD. It's not totally clear from its specs and manual whether or not it does, but I very much doubt it - the fact that it is not mentioned anywhere except in the very small print suggests not! It lists its "scan type" as PAL, ie SD.

Even if it did, lack of 720p support and no HDMI means it's not HD Ready.

camaj · 18-01-2006, 02:23

I believe the lack of HDMI/DVI(HDCP) means it's not HD Ready. As long as it supports over 720p, it does, then it's HD Ready.

Not a bad TV I think. I'd rather have this than a 720p LCD with the same connections, since you can probably output 1080i on almost all HD devices

JGalagh · 18-01-2006, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanderton

That TV is not HD Ready.

lack of 720p support and no HDMI means it's not HD Ready.

Thanks
I did not notice the lack of the correct connectors

Why can they advertise this as HD Ready ?

andybno1 · 18-01-2006, 13:30

this isn't exactly crt but its 32" with hdmi and dvi input and has a digital tuner
http://www.digiuk.com/productdetail....&guid=&s=0&sm=

Tony Hoyle · 18-01-2006, 16:16

Who advertised it as HD Ready?

Unbeatable has 'HDTV Ready' which is *not* the same thing... don't get caught out by the difference.

Also it won't do 720p so is probably unsuitable for Sky HD anyway, even over component.

sanderton · 18-01-2006, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Hoyle

Who advertised it as HD Ready?

Unbeatable has 'HDTV Ready' which is *not* the same thing... don't get caught out by the difference.

Also it won't do 720p so is probably unsuitable for Sky HD anyway, even over component.

http://www.digiuk.com/productdetail....d=&sm=&id=5172

camaj · 18-01-2006, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Hoyle

Also it won't do 720p so is probably unsuitable for Sky HD anyway, even over component.

As I said, Sky HD box SHOULD output 1080i over component on all channels. Blu-ray will also output at 1080i as does the Xbox360 and probably PS3

However I would be wary of buying something without HDCP (ie not HD ready) because some studios will elect to limit the resolution on non-HDCP connections.

In terms of picture quality it should be better than anything that isn't 1080p, and maybe even better than 1080p LCD's

sanderton · 18-01-2006, 23:54

I would be gobsmacked if the Sky+HD box did anything other than output the channels in their broadcast resolutions, ie Sky Sports ijn720p, Discover in 1080i. Why would they bother building in scaling when all HD Ready TVs can acceopt either?

Anyway it's irrelevant as I very much doubt that this TV can display more than the normal 576 lines. Pretty sure it's a standard SD TV which has a component input. It will display 1080i buy simply displaying every interlaced 540-line half frame as if it were a full frame.

13-01-2006, 16:35	#1
JGalagh Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 63	Is there such a beast I would like a TV with the following spec 1 28" or 32" CRT (Preferably slimline) 2 Digital Tuner 3 HD Ready I can get 1&2 or 1&3 but not 1&2&3 Anyone ? TIA

13-01-2006, 16:44	#2
sanderton Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Acne Information, Acne Vulgari Posts: 2,809	No, no such thing. No-one is bringing CRT HD sets out over here. Where have you seen 1&3?

13-01-2006, 19:03	#3
camaj Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 813	Why would you want CRT? The closet thing to CRT is SED displays and they won't be out for a good 6 months yet and they might be really expensive to start with

14-01-2006, 00:12	#4
sanderton Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Acne Information, Acne Vulgari Posts: 2,809	For SD signals, you still get a better picture from CRT than LCD/plasma.

17-01-2006, 12:04	#5
JGalagh Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 63	Quote: Originally Posted by sanderton No, no such thing. No-one is bringing CRT HD sets out over here. Where have you seen 1&3? digiuk.com Samsung WS32Z308P

17-01-2006, 17:07	#6
sanderton Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Acne Information, Acne Vulgari Posts: 2,809	That TV is not HD Ready. It does have a component input which supposedly supports 1080i, but that doesn't mean it displays HD. It's not totally clear from its specs and manual whether or not it does, but I very much doubt it - the fact that it is not mentioned anywhere except in the very small print suggests not! It lists its "scan type" as PAL, ie SD. Even if it did, lack of 720p support and no HDMI means it's not HD Ready.

18-01-2006, 02:23	#7
camaj Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 813	I believe the lack of HDMI/DVI(HDCP) means it's not HD Ready. As long as it supports over 720p, it does, then it's HD Ready. Not a bad TV I think. I'd rather have this than a 720p LCD with the same connections, since you can probably output 1080i on almost all HD devices

18-01-2006, 10:04	#8
JGalagh Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 63	Quote: Originally Posted by sanderton That TV is not HD Ready. lack of 720p support and no HDMI means it's not HD Ready. Thanks I did not notice the lack of the correct connectors Why can they advertise this as HD Ready ?

18-01-2006, 13:30	#9
andybno1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 6,065	this isn't exactly crt but its 32" with hdmi and dvi input and has a digital tuner http://www.digiuk.com/productdetail....&guid=&s=0&sm=

18-01-2006, 16:16	#10
Tony Hoyle Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,703	Who advertised it as HD Ready? Unbeatable has 'HDTV Ready' which is not the same thing... don't get caught out by the difference. Also it won't do 720p so is probably unsuitable for Sky HD anyway, even over component.

18-01-2006, 16:57	#11
sanderton Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Acne Information, Acne Vulgari Posts: 2,809	Quote: Originally Posted by Tony Hoyle Who advertised it as HD Ready? Unbeatable has 'HDTV Ready' which is not the same thing... don't get caught out by the difference. Also it won't do 720p so is probably unsuitable for Sky HD anyway, even over component. http://www.digiuk.com/productdetail....d=&sm=&id=5172

18-01-2006, 17:58	#12
camaj Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 813	Quote: Originally Posted by Tony Hoyle Also it won't do 720p so is probably unsuitable for Sky HD anyway, even over component. As I said, Sky HD box SHOULD output 1080i over component on all channels. Blu-ray will also output at 1080i as does the Xbox360 and probably PS3 However I would be wary of buying something without HDCP (ie not HD ready) because some studios will elect to limit the resolution on non-HDCP connections. In terms of picture quality it should be better than anything that isn't 1080p, and maybe even better than 1080p LCD's

18-01-2006, 23:54	#13
sanderton Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Acne Information, Acne Vulgari Posts: 2,809	I would be gobsmacked if the Sky+HD box did anything other than output the channels in their broadcast resolutions, ie Sky Sports ijn720p, Discover in 1080i. Why would they bother building in scaling when all HD Ready TVs can acceopt either? Anyway it's irrelevant as I very much doubt that this TV can display more than the normal 576 lines. Pretty sure it's a standard SD TV which has a component input. It will display 1080i buy simply displaying every interlaced 540-line half frame as if it were a full frame.

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