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Does anyone else feel that the wrong person won?
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LadyKnight
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by mromega
Amazing revelation - Big Brother is a popularity contest nothing more. ”

Why didn't you tell me sooner mro!
I could have saved myself 25p

LK - not saying shes tight or anything - just confused

I thought it was about how we as a civilised community saw ourselves reflected - or whether Tony Blair is a good man - or maybe how those women from Venus and Men from Mars perceived the human race.

Glad you cleared that up
Jo_K
27-07-2002
Just my humble opinion but I thought I'd put my tuppence worth in. I'm disappointed Alex or Jade didn't win, far more three dimensional characters than Kate. Never liked Kate from the beginning. Still at least I know now what I'm doing wrong, if you want to win a lot of money go on a game show, drink a lot, throw up a lot, put on lots of silly voices and flirt with all the men....hey it worked for Kate!!!!
LadyKnight
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Jo_K
Just my humble opinion but I thought I'd put my tuppence worth in. I'm disappointed Alex or Jade didn't win, far more three dimensional characters than Kate. Never liked Kate from the beginning. Still at least I know now what I'm doing wrong, if you want to win a lot of money go on a game show, drink a lot, throw up a lot, put on lots of silly voices and flirt with all the men....hey it worked for Kate!!!! ”

I am disappointed in the result too, and I never liked her either. In fact I like her even less after the eviction interview.

LK - thinks about doing the lottery tomorrow. I might win more and I would have to do any of the above stunts. I would also put an X in the box for no publicity
maybe
27-07-2002
So far as I am concerned, Jade was the winner tonight - I thought she was stunning, astute, loveable, and utterly herself.

I've never warmed to Kate - good luck to her but I think I'll have forgotten her in two weeks time.
gadfly
27-07-2002
I don't care about sounding peevish and griping about Kate being the winner.
Kate is a boring, bland shitbag who doesn't like being a girl (total traitor to her sex - winning it for the girls, my arse!!), and is horribly false, manipulative and selfish. Can't stand her. She has no personality - only mimics other people because she is EMPTY. Bland, crappy, pappy shite. Typical that the great British public can't bear anything or anyone unconventional, different. Kate won because she is NOTHING, and that's clearly all that people want - someone they see as 'normal'. Pathetic really.
Her runner-up mate Jonny is a false, oafish **** whose life will implode because nothing will live up to his "experience" in the BB house.

Jade was a total star tonight - Alex was stunned and humble and Davina cocked up his interview because there was TOO MUCH to ask, and she couldn't do it, so didn't bother, to ensure he didn't overshadow the boring duo left in the house with their crappy, drunken-falls highlights packages. He clearly hated the whole thing - embarrassing all round (God love the bastard!).

(Glad to be bitter ... really, really, really don't care about being pissed at this. Proud to be an Alex fan who doesn't want to take this result gracefully, even though I knew it was coming because most people - let's face it - are dull, small-minded ***** and hate originality).
alexi
27-07-2002
........you can't win them all.and I may be disappointed tonight but by tomorrow it won't look so bad....I will have forgotton all about BB untill next year.......Alex will be a superstar.....Jade will be popular for 6 months.......jonny will sink into obscurity...and Kate will have her 15 mins of fame.......goodnight all smilies please!!!!
Vincent
27-07-2002
This whole "first girl" is irrelevant. Who cares what sex the winner is?

Compared to some of the other housemates - Alex and Jade for example - Kate just seems completely drab and a non-entity. All she seemed to do was cry, drink, fall down, do poor impressions and flirt with Alex and Spencer. In a few weeks' time, I'm going to be hard pressed to remember anything she did.

I do feel that the wrong person won. Kate was neither interesting or entertaining. Perhaps it sums up our culture: the "attractive" girl wins. I wonder how many votes she would have got if she wasn't so attractive.

A far more worthy winner would have been Jade. She had a poorer upbringing compared to the rest of them and would have deserved the money far more and probably used it better (bought stuff for her mum and so on). Kate will probably waste it all on booze and other frivolities.

Generally, BB3 has been great. It's a shame it had to end like this.
JoJo4
27-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Alrightmate
Why don't you Kate and Jonny fans start a thread with something like, "Well done Kate", "Jonny did well" or something, instead of jumping on to the Alex and Jade fans threads and goading them?.

Still as negative as before, while all the Alex fans are doing, are saying that Alex and Jade have been real stars and will be remembered and saying why they didn't prefer Kate as the winner.

Can't believe that you still want to be argumentative when Kate has won and it's over.
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The problem being that Alex 'fans' loved him from the word go - blinded by what some found his attractive physical appearance, and have steadfastly refused throughout the whole run to see one single flaw in his extremely flawed persona. The next few weeks will show how immature and shallow he truly is and anyone with a brain cell will realise it is a good thing he didn't win. I have been backing Kate all the way, simply on the grounds of what I saw (it's well documented on here so no point saying it all again). I was surprised that she won in the face of all the 'vote Alex he's fit' viewers, but she was in every way, the best and most deserving housemate for the title. How wealthy or otherwise she is , is immaterial. As it goes my daughter worked with her 2 years ago (I didn't fin it difficult at all not to mention it earlier) and she was not particularly well off, in fact she didn't go to uni due to lack of cash. Just get over it - Alex lost because he was not up to it
gadfly
27-07-2002
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“Originally posted by JoJo4


The problem being that Alex 'fans' loved him from the word go - blinded by what some found his attractive physical appearance, and have steadfastly refused throughout the whole run to see one single flaw in his extremely flawed persona. The next few weeks will show how immature and shallow he truly is and anyone with a brain cell will realise it is a good thing he didn't win. I have been backing Kate all the way, simply on the grounds of what I saw (it's well documented on here so no point saying it all again). I was surprised that she won in the face of all the 'vote Alex he's fit' viewers, but she was in every way, the best and most deserving housemate for the title. How wealthy or otherwise she is , is immaterial. As it goes my daughter worked with her 2 years ago (I didn't fin it difficult at all not to mention it earlier) and she was not particularly well off, in fact she didn't go to uni due to lack of cash. Just get over it - Alex lost because he was not up to it
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Oh grow up. Not every one who liked Alex thought he was attractive!!
LadyKnight
27-07-2002
LK - starts hugging everyone who thought Jade did well tonight

She was simply Jade - funny endearing and totally herself. ! But I still don't want to live with her !!!! I hope she makes lots of money and is happy!
gadfly
27-07-2002
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“Originally posted by gadfly


Oh grow up. Not every one who liked Alex thought he was attractive!!
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AND, if we're being really petty (which is always fun), Kate partly won because a) teenie girls thought, ooh, must look like that (blonde, slim, draped over blokes, acting like a 'geezer'-shit), and b) teenie boys realised they could translate the earnest pumping action of their 'kate' masturbatory actions into redials on their mobile phones. (Evidence based on teaching exp., BTW)

Apologies for quoting own post - hit button too soon. (Could almost be a Kate fan...)
LadyKnight
27-07-2002
I know its a bit late in the day to be asking ....

But what the hell does 'gadgie' mean?
JoJo4
27-07-2002
It is a pity but it has to be said - you Alex fans are so confrontational and downright rude about anyone who isn't Alex. some of you suddenly adore Jade and try to lump her in with the Alex thing - I don't think so, she's worth 50 of him. It is at the end of the day a gameshow in which we feel we are participating as we watch housemates as much as 24 hours a day. Just because you wanted Alex to win and were so sure he would after staying in after 3 nomination weeks, you have to slag off everyone else, particularly Kate. For all the reasons she is not your cup of tea, why be so puerile and full of venom. I suggest that it says far more about you than it does about her - neither Jonny nor Jade's fans are as vile as you lot - you're even arguing with the moderators!! 'Ave a word, grow up and get a sense of proportion - and those of you who have mentioned children in your arguments, if they belong to you I feel sorry for them. You're a nasty bunch, and if that's what it takes to be an Alex supporter for all the good it did you, I'm glad I don't know any.
timo_w2s
27-07-2002
Well, I'm very happy that Kate won, she was the fav in our household and amongst friends. Anyway, it was about time I backed a winner on Big Brother.
HBK
27-07-2002
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“Originally posted by LadyKnight
I know its a bit late in the day to be asking ....

But what the hell does 'gadgie' mean?
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The camera men/women behind the mirrors.
Alrightmate
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by JoJo4


The problem being that Alex 'fans' loved him from the word go - blinded by what some found his attractive physical appearance, and have steadfastly refused throughout the whole run to see one single flaw in his extremely flawed persona. The next few weeks will show how immature and shallow he truly is and anyone with a brain cell will realise it is a good thing he didn't win. I have been backing Kate all the way, simply on the grounds of what I saw (it's well documented on here so no point saying it all again). I was surprised that she won in the face of all the 'vote Alex he's fit' viewers, but she was in every way, the best and most deserving housemate for the title. How wealthy or otherwise she is , is immaterial. As it goes my daughter worked with her 2 years ago (I didn't fin it difficult at all not to mention it earlier) and she was not particularly well off, in fact she didn't go to uni due to lack of cash. Just get over it - Alex lost because he was not up to it
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Don't generalize about Alex fans.
Many Alex fans are also male such as I.

And most Alex fans would agree that his ability to allow himself to show his flaws is a major factor involved in their like for him.

It's the same with many posts I've read from Jade's fans. They love it that she shows her flaws.

Most Jonny fans never admitted to him having flaws, even when the evidence came from Jonny's own mouth.
Come to think of it, most Jonny fans couldn't even illustrate his positive traits.

Err.......yes, I think I'm over it now. Is it okay for me to post now?

I don't really know what you mean by Alex wasn't up to it. I thought the idea was that you go into the house and at the end of ten weeks you leave it up to the public.
Did you mean that he wasn't up to "acting" more genuine?
gadfly
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by JoJo4
It is a pity but it has to be said - you Alex fans are so confrontational and downright rude about anyone who isn't Alex. some of you suddenly adore Jade and try to lump her in with the Alex thing - I don't think so, she's worth 50 of him. It is at the end of the day a gameshow in which we feel we are participating as we watch housemates as much as 24 hours a day. Just because you wanted Alex to win and were so sure he would after staying in after 3 nomination weeks, you have to slag off everyone else, particularly Kate. For all the reasons she is not your cup of tea, why be so puerile and full of venom. I suggest that it says far more about you than it does about her - neither Jonny nor Jade's fans are as vile as you lot - you're even arguing with the moderators!! 'Ave a word, grow up and get a sense of proportion - and those of you who have mentioned children in your arguments, if they belong to you I feel sorry for them. You're a nasty bunch, and if that's what it takes to be an Alex supporter for all the good it did you, I'm glad I don't know any. ”

Yeah, yeah, yeah.... whatever.
Never thought he would win actually. Realised nation is STUPID, and bland pap rules, long, long ago. SADLY.

(Ha. Enjoying being a sniping arsehole. The very worst kind of Alex fan - oh, what joy).
LadyKnight
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by JoJo4
It is a pity but it has to be said - you Alex fans are so confrontational and downright rude about anyone who isn't Alex. some of you suddenly adore Jade and try to lump her in with the Alex thing - I don't think so, she's worth 50 of him. It is at the end of the day a gameshow in which we feel we are participating as we watch housemates as much as 24 hours a day. Just because you wanted Alex to win and were so sure he would after staying in after 3 nomination weeks, you have to slag off everyone else, particularly Kate. For all the reasons she is not your cup of tea, why be so puerile and full of venom. I suggest that it says far more about you than it does about her - neither Jonny nor Jade's fans are as vile as you lot - you're even arguing with the moderators!! 'Ave a word, grow up and get a sense of proportion - and those of you who have mentioned children in your arguments, if they belong to you I feel sorry for them. You're a nasty bunch, and if that's what it takes to be an Alex supporter for all the good it did you, I'm glad I don't know any. ”

JoJo - trying putting an ice pack on your head, packets of frozen peas work just as well.

God sake - get a grip. We aren't a nasty bunch of people. (Well us Jade supporters were asking for a revolution in society and all small children under 5 were going to be corrupted if she won.)

No-one on here is vile ... no-one seems to be particularly nasty either. Its posts like yours who scare me a bit. There are ways and ways of putting your point across without damning everyone who doesn't agree with you to hell.

LK - thinks hell might not be too bad actually, I never liked the idea of harps and wings. I want to be somewhere warm - with a lot of little devils

I hate nasty posts. !
chuff
27-07-2002
Funny how all the poppets are crying and slagging Kate off now because when they felt Jonny was the rival to their boy it was all anti-jonny rants, Alex didn't even get close, which I admit I'm very suprised at.

Jade seemed the happiest about it all though, but I suppose that isn't suprising, the girl's did good.
Alrightmate
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by JoJo4
It is a pity but it has to be said - you Alex fans are so confrontational and downright rude about anyone who isn't Alex. some of you suddenly adore Jade and try to lump her in with the Alex thing - I don't think so, she's worth 50 of him. It is at the end of the day a gameshow in which we feel we are participating as we watch housemates as much as 24 hours a day. Just because you wanted Alex to win and were so sure he would after staying in after 3 nomination weeks, you have to slag off everyone else, particularly Kate. For all the reasons she is not your cup of tea, why be so puerile and full of venom. I suggest that it says far more about you than it does about her - neither Jonny nor Jade's fans are as vile as you lot - you're even arguing with the moderators!! 'Ave a word, grow up and get a sense of proportion - and those of you who have mentioned children in your arguments, if they belong to you I feel sorry for them. You're a nasty bunch, and if that's what it takes to be an Alex supporter for all the good it did you, I'm glad I don't know any. ”

You're generalizing again.

I haven't slagged off Jonny or Kate tonight. I said that I hope she enjoys her moment.
Valid criticism isn't the same as slagging off. It's the lifeblood of this type of forum.

I've liked Jade for a long time.
LadyKnight
27-07-2002
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“Originally posted by chuff
Funny how all the poppets are crying and slagging Kate off now because when they felt Jonny was the rival to their boy it was all anti-jonny rants, Alex didn't even get close, which I admit I'm very suprised at.

Jade seemed the happiest about it all though, but I suppose that isn't suprising, the girl's did good.
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chuff .. will you protect me from JoJo ..... awwhhh go on
Please?
cath99
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by alibat


To be fair a diploma in Performing Arts alone could get you a job as an actress etc. On the other hand an A level in Psychology alone is hardly going to get you a job as an Psycholigist.
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I'm sure a diploma in performing arts would put you on the right step to becoming an actress (not sure its quite so easy to "get a job" with the qualification alone).
The only problem is, Kate hasn't got a diploma! She's got an A level in drama for goodness sake. *sigh*
Dveron
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by chuff
Funny how all the poppets are crying and slagging Kate off now because when they felt Jonny was the rival to their boy it was all anti-jonny rants, Alex didn't even get close, which I admit I'm very suprised at.

Jade seemed the happiest about it all though, but I suppose that isn't suprising, the girl's did good.
”

Wow, could you generalise a bit more maybe, a few vocal Alex fans post some anti-Kate stuff and you tarnish all Alex Fans with the same brush...
chuff
27-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Dveron


Wow, could you generalise a bit more maybe, a few vocal Alex fans post some anti-Kate stuff and you tarnish all Alex Fans with the same brush...
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Well it depends if you consider yourself a poppet or an Alex supporter.

Just check out posts from elysium and see how many posters agreed
alibat
27-07-2002
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“Originally posted by JoJo4
It is a pity but it has to be said - you Alex fans are so confrontational and downright rude about anyone who isn't Alex. some of you suddenly adore Jade and try to lump her in with the Alex thing - I don't think so, she's worth 50 of him. It is at the end of the day a gameshow in which we feel we are participating as we watch housemates as much as 24 hours a day. Just because you wanted Alex to win and were so sure he would after staying in after 3 nomination weeks, you have to slag off everyone else, particularly Kate. For all the reasons she is not your cup of tea, why be so puerile and full of venom. I suggest that it says far more about you than it does about her - neither Jonny nor Jade's fans are as vile as you lot - you're even arguing with the moderators!! 'Ave a word, grow up and get a sense of proportion - and those of you who have mentioned children in your arguments, if they belong to you I feel sorry for them. You're a nasty bunch, and if that's what it takes to be an Alex supporter for all the good it did you, I'm glad I don't know any. ”

JJ, as a Jade supporter who chose Alex next, I must say I think their have been victriolic fan's on all sides not just Alex's. I also think the reason that many Alex fans also like Jade and visa versa, is they are a couple of eccsentrics which I find appealing.

Whilst Kate and Jonny who I'm sure are also very nice people but not my type, come across to me personally as middle of the road types.
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