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I thought Traci went to Harvard?
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itsnotcricket
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by jojo the joyful:
“Since when have brains & intelligence been linked .

Would a person with a top degree go on to be a taxi driver & go on to be mastermind of GB ?

Look at Stewart from BB5. Incredible clever but with mush for brains”

I seem to recall that after BB, Stuart admitted that he'd made up the stuff about being incredibly intelligent to get on the show. He has mush for brains because he's obviously not incredibly clever.

Brains and intelligence are linked, of course they are. But you can be intelligent and brainy yet lack common sense, street cred, or any sort of insight into human relationships; and vice versa: which is how the "incredibly stupid" Jade Goody has become a millionaire, and why the ever-so-clever Ms Marsh had absolutely no idea how to present herself to win favour on a reality show.
alibat
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by Quickfade:
“IQ tests don't mean much, I'm afraid. I suppose if you got them professionally done they might give you an indication of intelligence... but apart from that they're not worth the paper they're printed on.”

Very true they mean no more than your good at IQ tests & possibly maths, they can also be taught. Someone who is very good at English may well eaisily fail an IQ test, they certainly dont prove intelligence, just one kind of, or someone taught to pass an IQ test.
itsnotcricket
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by alibat:
“Very true they mean no more than your good at IQ tests & possibly maths, they can also be taught. Someone who is very good at English may well eaisily fail an IQ test, they certainly dont prove intelligence, just one kind of, or someone taught to pass an IQ test.”

I think you can be trained in the art of doing an IQ test and become familiar with the kind of questions they ask. Practising should help speed up your responses and help you grasp the significance of the question more quickly, but I doubt that you could pass one if you weren't fairly intelligent. The questions are designed to test your powers of deduction and logical thought, so there are no answers you can learn - every question is different.

I agree though that they are fairly limited in their scope.
vidalia
14-01-2006
I am probably of average intelligence but I'm excellent at doing IQ tests which are mainly multiple choice and I seem to have a knack of picking the right answer when I don't know it.
alibat
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by itsnotcricket:
“I think you can be trained in the art of doing an IQ test and become familiar with the kind of questions they ask. Practising should help speed up your responses and help you grasp the significance of the question more quickly, but I doubt that you could pass one if you weren't fairly intelligent. The questions are designed to test your powers of deduction and logical thought, so there are no answers you can learn - every question is different.

I agree though that they are fairly limited in their scope.”

I agree to a point, although their are also those with learrning difficulties such as autism, who actually do well in IQ tests yet may be percieved in other ways as not intelligent. Personally I think it doesn't measure intellegence as such, but an understanding of what it's about, although I'm sure many who pass it are intelligent & some not so.
kimindex
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by *Little*:
“You were right she did say it was quite embarrassing and very low compared to Jodies.”

Oh, thanks, Little. I'm not going barmy after all! (Apart from all the other evidence, that is!).
PorkSausage
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by Jacquicrossland:
“George Herbert Walker Bush went to Harvard so it doesn't say much LOL”

Apparently he has a phenomally high IQ.

...was it we were saying about IQ tests being meaningless.
Stewing
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by kimindex:
“But Davina said her IQ in the test was embarrassingly low?”


You did not really believe that PR shite did you...what is your IQ..100?????????????????
Avery Niceman
14-01-2006
The test was 20 minutes long. You sit those tests on a computer and they give you a high IQ and then ask you to pay for the full test.
Geri69
14-01-2006
Elle Woods went to Harvard............
carlBAY
14-01-2006
Harvard beauty school
LittleMissy
14-01-2006
Regardless of how accurate a measure of IQ the test was, Jodie still scored significantly higher than Tracie and the national average.
carlBAY
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by LittleMissy:
“Regardless of how accurate a measure of IQ the test was, Jodie still scored significantly higher than Tracie and the national average.”

Well done Jodi- before BB I didnt know much about her except that she went to premieres in belts and was bitchy about Jordan..after CBB I now know that she is intelligent, brave in the face of bullying, funny , unapologeticaly sexy, compassionate to animals , very grounded, and vegetarian.So her appearance on CBB has definitely changed my opinion of her very much for the better..good luck Jodi, my favourite housemate of this years CBB by far
Alrightmate
14-01-2006
IQ tests are usually made up of lots of multiple choice questions aren't they?

So if that's the case, then an element of luck also comes into it if people guess answers they don't know or aren't sure about.

So somebody who is quite intelligent may score low if many of the questions they guessed were wrong,....but somebody who is possibly just under average intelligence may score high if he or she is very lucky if enough of their guesses they took on multiple choice questions were correct.

Probability says that this must happen on average sometimes.
Somebody who is not very intelligent at all may even be extremely lucky in their multiple choice guesses and be judged as very intelligent on some rare occasions.

Multiple choice questions by their very nature open up the possibility of this random factor where pure guesses can corrupt the result.
froglet
14-01-2006
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“QUOTE=bevheth]I am probably of average intelligence but I'm excellent at doing IQ tests which are mainly multiple choice and I seem to have a knack of picking the right answer when I don't know it.”

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Hang on a minute- you could be extremely clever and you haven't realised it!
Kenko2000
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by carlBAY:
“Well done Jodi- before BB I didnt know much about her except that she went to premieres in belts and was bitchy about Jordan..after CBB I now know that she is intelligent, brave in the face of bullying, funny , unapologeticaly sexy, compassionate to animals , very grounded, and vegetarian.So her appearance on CBB has definitely changed my opinion of her very much for the better..good luck Jodi, my favourite housemate of this years CBB by far”



I agree.
I think she will come out well from this experience in the end.
She also showed she would stand up for what she believed in, even knowing she would take abuse for it.

Unlike previous PETA backing celebrities, Dennis Rodman and Traci Bingham, who showed their hypocricy by not defending her, with Rodman saying he didn't really give a sh*t ....


http://www.furisdead.com/feat-rodman.asp

http://www.tracibingham.org/PETA.html
itsnotcricket
14-01-2006
I didn't know that IQ tests had multiple choice answers. That would put a different slant on it. I think I did one when I was little and I'm sure you had to give the answer yourself, no multiple choice. (Giving my age away!) Multiple choice surely invalidates the value of IQ testing altogether.
Diamonds_R
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by LittleMissy:
“Regardless of how accurate a measure of IQ the test was, Jodie still scored significantly higher than Tracie and the national average.”

Regardless of the "BB IQ test", Traci was admitted to Harvard. Harvard enrols students from all over the world, and only the brightest students are admitted based on their scholastic achievements and extracurricular activities.

Although I would have been much more impressed if she'd actually finished, she did at least get in.

Where did Ms Marsh attend university?
SinSeer
14-01-2006
IQ tests are about as reliable a judge of someone's personality as a horoscope. But they are useful for the kind of social misfit who joins MENSA or who, like Jodie Marsh, need to constantly brag about how intelligent they are, even though they fail to show much intelligence when it comes to how they lead their lives.
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