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Galloway is an Idiot
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ErwinTheCat
14-01-2006
- he never saw BB before entering the house
- he doesn't know the broadcasting rules regarding political bias
- he didn't know young people talk about sex without shame
- he thinks Barrymore's going to revive his career
- he never votes in parliament
- he's abandoned his constituents
- he thinks pretending to be a cat will help send his fascist message to younger people

I thought he was a sharp operator. Now I think he's an idiot.
Oh Brother
14-01-2006
And he berated Jodie, "you are a wicked, manipulative, vindictive, scheming, nasty person, and are responsible for reducing a 55 year old (Barrymore) to tears. You should be ashamed".

What does this make George's pal Saddam? A role model?
Avery Niceman
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by Oh Brother:
“And he berated Jodie, "you are a wicked, manipulative, vindictive, scheming, nasty person, and are responsible for reducing a 55 year old (Barrymore) to tears. You should be ashamed".

What does this make George's pal Saddam? A role model?”

That point seems to have escaped almost everyone here but you and me.
JimRockford
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by Oh Brother:
“And he berated Jodie, "you are a wicked, manipulative, vindictive, scheming, nasty person, and are responsible for reducing a 55 year old (Barrymore) to tears. You should be ashamed".

What does this make George's pal Saddam? A role model?”

When did he ever say Sadam was his pal???

He met with him twice, to try and persuade him to let the weapon inspectors in to avoid a war.

Are people really ignorant?
P.Nut
14-01-2006
I had alot of respect for him for his stance against the war and a couple of other things. After the way he fronted out JM and the finger pointing wicked jibe and more recently him saying vegetarians are troublemakers (oh FFS get a grip man ) all respect for him has evaporated, I think he's a creep
JimRockford
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by P.Nut:
“I had alot of respect for him for his stance against the war and a couple of other things. After the way he fronted out JM and the finger pointing wicked jibe and more recently him saying vegetarians are troublemakers (oh FFS get a grip man ) all respect for him has evaporated, I think he's a creep ”


My uncle is about his age and cannot understand the vegtarian mentality either, I don't hate him or think he's a creep though.
Avery Niceman
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“When did he ever say Sadam was his pal???

He met with him twice, to try and persuade him to let the weapon inspectors in to avoid a war.

Are people really ignorant?”

Tariq Aziz was of course his pal. He certainly made that clear. Christmas dinners with the people who who gassed Halabja. Lovely.
makavelianz
14-01-2006
Yeh he only visted Iraq twice as a visitor he never invaded it!!
JimRockford
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by Avery Niceman:
“Tariq Aziz was of course his pal. He certainly made that clear. Christmas dinners with the people who who gassed Halabaja. Lovely.”

When did he make that clear?
Avery Niceman
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“When did he make that clear?”

When he refered to him as a "dear, dear friend"
Oh Brother
14-01-2006
Phew...i'm glad you spotted that.

Jodie's harmless. Would Galloway walk in on Saddam and berate him the way he berated Jodie, of course not, he would have taken out and shot.
Last edited by Oh Brother : 14-01-2006 at 14:26
P.Nut
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“My uncle is about his age and cannot understand the vegtarian mentality either, I don't hate him or think he's a creep though.”


I don't hate him, and me thinking him a creep isn't solely because of the veggie thing I think he's a bit of a creep 'cause IMO he appears to be doing alot of brown nosing.
JimRockford
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by Avery Niceman:
“When he refered to him as a "dear, dear friend"”


No mention of him being a bad person here I'm afraid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Aziz

That's the problem with this forum, everbody believes what The Sun and The Mirror tell them.
Avery Niceman
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“No mention of him being a bad person here I'm afraid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Aziz

That's the problem with this forum, everbody believes what The Sun and The Mirror tell them. ”

As opposed to The Guardian? Or Wikipedia?
Oh Brother
14-01-2006
Has Galloway ever publically denounced Saddam? No.

A Page 3 girl? Yes.
P.Nut
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“No mention of him being a bad person here I'm afraid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Aziz

That's the problem with this forum, everbody believes what The Sun and The Mirror tell them. ”


c'mon now, EVERYBODY?? focus darling, FOCUS!

I've never read a red top in my LIFE
Halfbot
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by Avery Niceman:
“That point seems to have escaped almost everyone here but you and me.”

I totally agree, I have always thought the guy was pathetic, he only picked to stand in Bethnal Green and Bow because of the tensions, and his rather nice campaign against Oona King. I'm glad people can see who they voted for, someone who has no regard for his constituents, the very people that voted for him, I find it almost funny.

That said, in years gone by, he would have been put against the wall and shot.
Ameri
14-01-2006
Tony Blair would have been put against a wall and shot for lying to get our armed forces to get them to illegally invade another country. Even if you don't care about the thousands of Iraqi civilians who have died as a result of Blair's lies - but I do - you may care about the British soldiers - young men - who have died. Or you would if they were related to you. Galloway is a hero for trying to stop a war. He is a good man.

Many many people have died as a result of Tony Blair's actions. He is the one who would have been put up against a wall and shot.
Oh Brother
14-01-2006
Fine. Try if you must.

Galloway is stunned that nobody has talked to him about the war.

Now if you were in the opinion as one of the house mates that it was the right decision to go to war against Iraq - are you going to mention that to George? No of course not.

However you would put your point, George is highly skilled orator, and within that BB environment, he would run rings around anybody that opposes his point to the point of frustration...and it would appear that with all the yellow streaks in the house...there would be no support.

That housemate would simply alienate themselves...and MB and PB would be there for the kill.

George is dying for someone to take up a challenge.
Halfbot
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by Ameri:
“Tony Blair would have been put against a wall and shot for lying to get our armed forces to get them to illegally invade another country. Even if you don't care about the thousands of Iraqi civilians who have died as a result of Blair's lies - but I do - you may care about the British soldiers - young men - who have died. Or you would if they were related to you. Galloway is a hero for trying to stop a war. He is a good man.

Many many people have died as a result of Tony Blair's actions. He is the one who would have been put up against a wall and shot.”

Great views there, nice to see you try to reduce my opinion as being one for killing thousands of Iraqi Civillians, thanks

But lets make one thing clear, I was against the war. However when in a war to say to the troops to stop fighting, and all of the other crap that comes out of his mouth, is just plain wrong. You say you care about the soldiers fighting, how can you possibly support Galloways actions when he was demoralising troops fighting there? Surely you must see that his actions were detriemental to all of the troops that were fighting there?

Not only that but you say Blair is the one that should be shot, as the full advice of the attorney general has never been publicly released, only certain bits, and only certain information released, you cant possibly conclude Blair lied to us. You present your opinion like a fact that he lied and should be shot. At least with Galloway his comments about troops were at best a grave misjudgement, at worst treasonous.

Also, Galloway is a representive of Bethnal Green and Bow, he shouldnt be in the Big Brother house should he? Or is it ok for someone who is payed by public money to represent people (especially with the crossrail issue) to be using the time he should be in parliament to play in the Big Brother house? Does this make him a better politician to you? Or is it the fact Galloway has one of the worst voting records in parliament?

ITs amazing that someone like Galloway, who seems so happy to get his antiwar stance across, that he has failed to vote in so many commons votes. Its actually slightly ironic, dont you think ?
Mykonos
14-01-2006
No matter whether you believe GG either to be idiotic or wonderful,he has added so much to this CBB.I'm really glad he is there.

I must say that Pete's affection for him did surprise me though.
I think there's a whole can of worms about Pete's paternal relationship in there somewhere.
Norti
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“My uncle is about his age and cannot understand the vegtarian mentality either, I don't hate him or think he's a creep though.”

Yeah, there is a generational aspect to understanding vegetarian issues - although there are actually OAP's who are vegetarian and it's not exclusive to the young and trendy.

However, as an MP, George should have some idea about all social issues if he is to represent the values of his constituency properly.

His vegetarians always being at fault comment at the end of Quorngate actually revealed more about his lack of fairness and fairplay. On a limited budget, why should some have less food to eat than others and why should he applaud someones rude and outrageous behaviour?

He seems naturally eager to reinforce a hierachy and pecking order within the house, and has absolutely no regard for equality. As a politician who has power and authority over those in his constituency, this makes me very uncomfortable.
malarkey
14-01-2006
ErwinTheCat - I agree totally GG has to be an idiot (as well as an ego-maniac!)

He & his PR-type people on the 'outside' have justified him deserting his constituents, missing a very important vote & generally making a complete pratt (or cat ) of himself, by saying he was doing it to 'take politics to the people & engage the younger generation. Ha Ha Ha!!!

So how exactly has he done that, then? By:-
* immediately creating age-based divisions
* by endlessly telling us how a 'man of his age & class' is
shocked by the behaviour of the young people in there
* by stirring up group hatred & delivering a vile attack on a
young person
* by standing by whilst a young person is nearly physically
attacked & subsequently kissing the perpetrator
* by refusing to understand what vegetarianism is &
ridiculing the concept
* by backing the wearing of a dead gorrilla
* by turning his vitriole on another young person (Preston),
now he's managed to get the 1st young person evicted
* by spending most of his time sleazing around Rula &
bitching about the behaviour of the young
* by acting like a crazed tyrant
* by not taking up any opportunity whatsoever to have a
sensible - interactive discussion with any young person in
there

After witnessing this inspirational insight into politics - will young people be moved to join political parties & vote, or will they think politicians come from another planet? (& should have stayed there!!!)

Not to mention, of course, he & his pals on the 'outside' seemed blisfully unaware what actually went on in the BB House & had no idea what the rules governing the broadcast of political debate were.
Idiot? - I think so!
Oh Brother
14-01-2006
Good post.

And ironically shown no RESPECT.

He will be forever associated with the 1994 clip of him telling Saddam Hussein: "Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, and your indefatigability."

Is Jodie really more of a monster?
Norti
14-01-2006
Originally Posted by malarkey:
“ErwinTheCat - I agree totally GG has to be an idiot (as well as an ego-maniac!)

He & his PR-type people on the 'outside' have justified him deserting his constituents, missing a very important vote & generally making a complete pratt (or cat ) of himself, by saying he was doing it to 'take politics to the people & engage the younger generation. Ha Ha Ha!!!

So how exactly has he done that, then? By:-
* immediately creating age-based divisions
* by endlessly telling us how a 'man of his age & class' is
shocked by the behaviour of the young people in there
* by stirring up group hatred & delivering a vile attack on a
young person
* by standing by whilst a young person is nearly physically
attacked & subsequently kissing the perpetrator
* by refusing to understand what vegetarianism is &
ridiculing the concept
* by backing the wearing of a dead gorrilla
* by turning his vitriole on another young person (Preston),
now he's managed to get the 1st young person evicted
* by spending most of his time sleazing around Rula &
bitching about the behaviour of the young
* by acting like a crazed tyrant
* by not taking up any opportunity whatsoever to have a
sensible - interactive discussion with any young person in
there

After witnessing this inspirational insight into politics - will young people be moved to join political parties & vote, or will they think politicians come from another planet? (& should have stayed there!!!)

Not to mention, of course, he & his pals on the 'outside' seemed blisfully unaware what actually went on in the BB House & had no idea what the rules governing the broadcast of political debate were.
Idiot? - I think so!”


I agree there is a delicious irony in his lack of self awareness.

In accusing Jodie of failing to change her public persona and how her behaviour in the house has reinforced existing perceptions even more, how can he not see that in exactly the same way he has spectacularly failed to reach the young populist audience and has even caused offence by his ignorant, alienating and patronising views.
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