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Old 28-07-2002, 19:27
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Just come back for a look and see whats goin on in this forum since BB ended, and im STAGGERED to see that the 'bitter' Alex brigade are still in and still on with the usual dross about acting, conspiracy theories, even suggesting that Kate wasnt genuinely overcome on friday night. Even picking the voting apart to prove that she didnt get a majority vote, well of course she didnt but she got the BIGGEST vote, hence she won. Get over it for gods sake. I wanted Jonny to win but he didnt but im not bitter, I wouldnt have been bitter even if Alex won although i didnt like him.
Get over it, grow up and get back to reality.
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Old 28-07-2002, 19:40
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To all the jonny fans there can be only one winner under the BB rules that was kate jonny came second that makes him a looser just like the others. There is only one prize in the actual BB game the £70000 all the other offers come from those who want to use the hms short lived fame.

Jonny is a looser you get nothing for coming second he is just like alex and jade etc. and it is possibly true that they will do better than him with these secondary offers.

jonny lost don't try to make out that just because he beat alex that he won.
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Old 28-07-2002, 19:43
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Originally posted by A_different_Bob
Just come back for a look and see whats goin on in this forum since BB ended, and im STAGGERED to see that the 'bitter' Alex brigade are still in and still on with the usual dross about acting, conspiracy theories, even suggesting that Kate wasnt genuinely overcome on friday night. Even picking the voting apart to prove that she didnt get a majority vote, well of course she didnt but she got the BIGGEST vote, hence she won. Get over it for gods sake. I wanted Jonny to win but he didnt but im not bitter, I wouldnt have been bitter even if Alex won although i didnt like him.
Get over it, grow up and get back to reality.
You've come back for a look and don't like what you see, tough no one asked you to. If you don't like it don't bother.
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:09
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Originally posted by A_different_Bob
Just come back for a look and see whats goin on in this forum since BB ended, and im STAGGERED to see that the 'bitter' Alex brigade are still in and still on with the usual dross about acting, conspiracy theories, even suggesting that Kate wasnt genuinely overcome on friday night. Even picking the voting apart to prove that she didnt get a majority vote, well of course she didnt but she got the BIGGEST vote, hence she won. Get over it for gods sake. I wanted Jonny to win but he didnt but im not bitter, I wouldnt have been bitter even if Alex won although i didnt like him.
Get over it, grow up and get back to reality.
Im at a loss .......it this is upsetting you so much then click on your mouse and visit another thread.
We are enjoying ourselves.
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:14
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Im at a loss .......it this is upsetting you so much then click on your mouse and visit another thread.
We are enjoying ourselves.
Ive had a look, but there aint any id like to participate in, unless I go back to about page 3...lol
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:14
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Originally posted by A_different_Bob
Just come back for a look and see whats goin on in this forum since BB ended, and im STAGGERED to see that the 'bitter' Alex brigade are still in...
and is this forum now only for Jonny supporters like yourself?

Oh, and why can't you jonny supporters come to terms with the fact that he, and Kate, are simple actors and for that matter fakes? Hard nut to chew, huh? Easy to knock that truth as just coming from bitter Alex supporters! Get over it... Jonny and Kate were frauds, and they conned the hell outta you Jonny supporters big time!
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:14
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I didnt miss the close ups - however, she probably thought the camera wasnt on her at that point - after all they were interviewing Jonny - but when she was 'sobbing' into Jonny's shoulder, she knew that that moment would be replayed again and again.

A false reaction from a false person.
Yes and of course this was in keeping with all of Kate's other false moments these last 9 weeks - all cleverly edited out by Channel 4 in their attempt to stop the loose canons from winning - Alex and Jade
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:15
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Originally posted by Benson


You've come back for a look and don't like what you see, tough no one asked you to. If you don't like it don't bother.
shows over, dya hear? O.V.E.R
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:22
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What are you talking about? The C4 highlights on Thursday were from Wednesday's action, the argument happened on Thursday!!!

I suggest that if you have Thursday's highlights on tape that you watch it again.

The event took place on day 63 (THURSDAY) and was shown that same evening. I was surprised to see it because like you l always assumed that they took footage from the previous day. But they showed this arguement which took place that afternoon so why didn't they show the part of the arguement where Jade accused Kate of being two faced?

Jade Hits A Bum Note
Day 63, 17:09

IT was just waiting to happen - a row has broken out between Kate and Jade but this time over the IT girl's bottom!

The dispute began after Kate thought she had heard the comment, "Kate, put your a**e away!" shouted at her over the fence. And before you could say 'bikini bottoms' there were fireworks.

Kate couldn't quite comprehend the dig and seemed to want to take it out on Jade.

"Jade, you walk around with your knickers on, not me," she protested.

"You wear shorts that are up you're a**e," Jade replied candidly, trying to point out a home truth to her housemate.

"You had your bikini on and it was up your a**e," the Bermondsey girl then clarified.

It was verbal tennis: the IT girl telling her housemate she wears bikinis a lot more than she does. "I wear bikinis every day," Jade conceded, then added, "but you do - up you're a**e."

"Your grey ones are up your a**e," Jade continued to explain her point and referred to a pair of Kate's supposed bum-revealing shorts.
[Jade]
Bum rap... Jade

But trying to make her pal feel better, Jade then offered the rhetorical question: "How many times have I been naked in here?"

But Kate wasn't to be placated that easily. The IT girl was quick to respond that the only reason she'd been heckled at all was that Saturday's pool antics was the first time she'd ever shown her bum to the public.

"Good, I hope that is the reason," Jade replied innocently. "Rather than 'cos you wear short shorts!"

But Kate wasn't content and turned to Jonny for support on the 'is-my-a**e-always-hanging out?' topic, but Jonny refused to be drawn in.

A furious Kate then headed out to the garden to ask for Alex's opinion while a desperate Jade tried to defend herself. "Not your a**e, your cheeks!" she explained. "You just talk b******s, Jade!" Kate replied.

It was left to Alex to offer the final word: "Your bum is always about," the Essex lad concluded.
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:22
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and is this forum now only for Jonny supporters like yourself?

Oh, and why can't you jonny supporters come to terms with the fact that he, and Kate, are simple actors and for that matter fakes? Hard nut to chew, huh? Easy to knock that truth as just coming from bitter Alex supporters! Get over it... Jonny and Kate were frauds, and they conned the hell outta you Jonny supporters big time!
Well no, not a hard nut to chew at all, I don't care if they are actors/actresses, I couldn't care even if they'd both recieved an oscar, or been child actors in Grange Hill. I don't feel conned, I feel happy they won, but what makes me really happy is thinking of all the money you spent (if you did) on phoning to vote for someone even lower down the food chain
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:27
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shows over, dya hear? O.V.E.R
Show might be over but the forums aint, THEREFORE we are still entitled to our opinions!!

Compronde??
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:33
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shows over, dya hear? O.V.E.R
well get outta here then Jezza
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:36
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well get outta here then Jezza
nah I'm intrigued as to how group denial dissipates
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:43
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I always find these types of threads the best. Sometimes it is like you are reading the personal views of the HM's relatives.

After a good read I have come to the conclusion that £70,000 is just not enough for most of you. What I mean is that, by reading what you say about acting etc... you wouldnt be prepared to act for a mere £70,000.

Well sorry folks, it is a hell of a lot of money to me, and I certainly would be prepared to play to the cameras and act a little if it meant winning the dosh.

But you lot have probably just got more pride than I have eh

Well done Kate!
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Old 28-07-2002, 20:59
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I always find these types of threads the best. Sometimes it is like you are reading the personal views of the HM's relatives.

After a good read I have come to the conclusion that £70,000 is just not enough for most of you. What I mean is that, by reading what you say about acting etc... you wouldnt be prepared to act for a mere £70,000.

Well sorry folks, it is a hell of a lot of money to me, and I certainly would be prepared to play to the cameras and act a little if it meant winning the dosh.

But you lot have probably just got more pride than I have eh

Well done Kate!
Understand what you're saying, but I guess the whole point is, the shows not about 'acting' your way to the £70,000, its a popularity contest, which means you should be popular for your own personality, its also a reality show which is all about seeing how 12 people react to each other for 9 weeks.

If we wanted to see someone acting, or performing, there are plenty of other shows, ie Pop Idol, Star for a Night that are for that very purpose.
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:07
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Yep, okay. But arent we going to find it hard now to find individuals who know nothing about BB?

Next year, no matter what they say, when they enter the house they will know what the score is and "adjust" to the situation. Could their acting just be their way of surviving the game show?

All the way along this series, I felt like a really good enduring task would sort out those who were pretending etc... The promises of BB3 being harder just didnt evolve. So if the producers didnt strain their personalities, it was obvious that some would be able to remain behind their masks.

I blame the show, it let it happen. And those that felt they had to do it, well isnt that a natural thing to do?
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:08
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Understand what you're saying, but I guess the whole point is, the shows not about 'acting' your way to the £70,000, its a popularity contest, which means you should be popular for your own personality,
That's not the whole point it's your point.

A popularity contest is won by the person who is most popular. To win it you need to appeal to your target audience. And that's what Kate did

Sadly Alex et. al. didn't understand this and lost

You don't win a Tennis match by playing good squash.

Whether he is your favourite or not is immaterial to the result. Get over it
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:08
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I wouldn't go on Big Brother if they increased the winnings to £20 miliion. If the media altered their approach and I wasn't terrified that every last detail of my previous life wouldn't be scrutinised by every Sun reader in the UK I would do it for nothing. I would genunely like to see how I would react to life in such an intense environment.
My reservations have nothing to do with how I would behave in the house .I'd be a great hosemate :I like talking, enjoy a laugh, I'm a good cook, I would love the chickens, I like cleaning (esp. bathrooms and kitchens), I think I'm fairly open-minded and don't care if people pee in the shower. They have lots to do with how any former misdemeanors would be reported and their effects on my friends and family. I also would really hate the fact that anything I did in the future might be spread across the tabloids.
I predict that I will be increasingly disappointed by future BB series but I'm not entirely sure whether that may have more to do with my age than the show changing. I'm now outside the target Ch4 audience so maybe that's the reason.
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:09
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the acting wasn't very convincing though,
and the script was diabolical
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:10
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Excellent points on major beefs this year. I can't see why there isn't more public influence over the competition since 'we' actually pay for it. There are many posters in this forum who know a helluva lot more about BB than the employees who run the show - why not have an independent body?.

Why do they have celebrities commenting in newspapers (apart from exposure) when they are too busy to actually watch more than whets the appetite? A few on BBLB couldn't even remember their names.

In the Sunday Post last week there was an interview with the chap who runs the BB helpline. He has done each series and admitted that he 'never watches the programmes' - how can he answer specific questions??

The voting system is unfair because I've read countless posts about people spending 100's of pounds during working hours - or on bets, how can this truly reflect the GBP's choice of winner?

Oh, I know Kate won .....
It's strange that you mention public involvement in BB. The last couple of years, I've done a BB website. Earlier on in the year, I was contacted by someone at Endemol, who said that they were getting together a 'think tank' meeting. 6 or 7 others were contacted who ran fan sites. The idea behind the meeting, was to put our ideas to Endemol about different aspects of BB. With regard to the website, interactive etc. I was sent a contract to sign prior to the meeting, but I chose NOT to go, along with a few others, because after reading the contract through, all they seemed to be trying to do was to have the rights to your entire website and it's contents. Because of that, I declined to get involved, but, I seriously regret not going now, as I didn't do my website and it would have been interesting to see if Endemol really did take note of what the fan site members had to say. I had a lot of ideas that I could put to them, but I'll never know now.

Maybe they'll have a meeting next year, who knows. They might even take note of fans grievances from this year. After all, they only have to take a look at a few messageboards to see the depth of feeling about the selection of contestants, bias editing, weak tasks, selecting contestants who hold Equity cards, too much booze, too big a shopping budget. They certainly have a lot to work on, and they should really take the show back to it's original 'back to basics' format.
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:15
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That's not the whole point it's your point.

A popularity contest is won by the person who is most popular. To win it you need to appeal to your target audience. And that's what Kate did

Sadly Alex et. al. didn't understand this and lost

You don't win a Tennis match by playing good squash.

Whether he is your favourite or not is immaterial to the result. Get over it
Kate's and Jonny's acting to the camera has taken the real out of the 'reality TV'. People don't watch BB to see somebody performing because they know there is a camera on them, they watch it because they are curious how different characters interact. Peopel like to see 'real' people showing genuine reactions to 'real' situations.
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:20
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Kate's and Jonny's acting to the camera has taken the real out of the 'reality TV'. People don't watch BB to see somebody performing because they know there is a camera on them, they watch it because they are curious how different characters interact. Peopel like to see 'real' people showing genuine reactions to 'real' situations.
When Tim Henman didn't win the Wimbledon Semi against Goran in 2001 I was distraught. Tim was the better player. He was ahead until the Rain stopped play. Once play had resume he lost his concentration and lost the match.

I didn't walk around saying "Tennis is crap" or "Goran's style lacks and Tim really won because his style is better"

The truth is that Henman wasn't good enough on the day to beat his opponent even though on paper he should have won. Goran's game left a lot to be desired and he appeared not to 'deserve it'.

Yet I didn't walk around saying Goran had taken the Tennis out of Tennis.

Show some damn character Benson and accept that Alex lost the gameshow and that he is your favourite. No amount of Kate & Jonny bashing or BB questioning or moaning and whiging is ever gonna change that.

Alex whinged throughout the show, that's why he lost. Well learn from his mistakes.
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:23
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Show might be over but the forums aint, THEREFORE we are still entitled to our opinions!!

Compronde??

Jezza's unlikely to do that; too much of a hypocrite.
The forum is indeed still open - in two senses of the word.

If we want to carry on with the post mortem, fine.
If Jezza want' to **** off somewhere else, thats fine by me.

But if he/she wants to stay he/she should accept that people can post what they like: Jonnykate become no less fake just because they win, we are just discussing that next year everyone will have learned and there will be even more fakes than in BB3.

Personally I find more fun watching people be themselves than puppets play to the camera.

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Old 28-07-2002, 21:24
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Jezza's unlikely to do that; too much of a hypocrite.
The forum is indeed still open - in two senses of the word.

If we want to carry on with the post mortem, fine.
If Jezza want' to **** off somewhere else, thats fine by me.

But if he/she wants to stay he/she should accept that people can post what they like: Jonnykate become no less fake just because they win, we are just discussing that next year everyone will have learned and there will be even more fakes than in BB3.

Personally I find more fun watching people be themselves than puppets play to the camera.

Alice
it is YOU that is showing lack of character by not taking defeat on the chin

grow up and be a Woman for f**ks sake
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Old 28-07-2002, 21:29
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To all the jonny fans there can be only one winner under the BB rules that was kate jonny came second that makes him a looser just like the others. There is only one prize in the actual BB game the £70000 all the other offers come from those who want to use the hms short lived fame.
I forgot which athlete coined the phrase but

"A silver medal just reminds everyone you are the first of the LOSERS."

Jonny was a loser, as predicted.
He was only there at all because he latched on to her popularity.
Wifhout thier little nomiantion rigging scam (hats off to em, very affective) he would have been nominated a lot more than 3 times. Kate would have escaped without him.

Jonny is a loser: unlike the other losers his moment of glory was hurried by Davina.

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