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observer
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by jezza


it is YOU that is showing lack of character by not taking defeat on the chin

grow up and be a Woman for f**ks sake
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But the whole point of this thread is that it was not a clear victory or defeat. People feel cheated and have every right to express their opinion about it. It's like the American election, there were dubious voting campain practices, Al Gore won the popular votes, yet dump Bush became president. People are still debating that Bush's victory, just as here people are debating Kate's victory. It's called freedom of speech.
Richey
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by jezza


it is YOU that is showing lack of character by not taking defeat on the chin

grow up and be a Woman for f**ks sake
”

I can't see what was wrong with Al's post, he was just saying what he preferred to watch, I can't see him moaning or complaining that any housemate won or lost. The fact that you, as normal, just revert to cheap insults and jibes just confirms our low opinion of you and your debating skills and, basically, makes you look a fool.
Benson
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by jezza


When Tim Henman didn't win the Wimbledon Semi against Goran in 2001 I was distraught. Tim was the better player. He was ahead until the Rain stopped play. Once play had resume he lost his concentration and lost the match.

I didn't walk around saying "Tennis is crap" or "Goran's style lacks and Tim really won because his style is better"

The truth is that Henman wasn't good enough on the day to beat his opponent even though on paper he should have won. Goran's game left a lot to be desired and he appeared not to 'deserve it'.

Yet I didn't walk around saying Goran had taken the Tennis out of Tennis.

Show some damn character Benson and accept that Alex lost the gameshow and that he is your favourite. No amount of Kate & Jonny bashing or BB questioning or moaning and whiging is ever gonna change that.

Alex whinged throughout the show, that's why he lost. Well learn from his mistakes.
”

People watch a tennis match on the assumption that the players are going to play tennis.

People watch a reality TV show like Big Brother on the assumption that they are going to see 'real' people showing their 'real' personalities.
observer
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by jezza


When Tim Henman didn't win the Wimbledon Semi against Goran in 2001 I was distraught. Tim was the better player. He was ahead until the Rain stopped play. Once play had resume he lost his concentration and lost the match.

I didn't walk around saying "Tennis is crap" or "Goran's style lacks and Tim really won because his style is better"

The truth is that Henman wasn't good enough on the day to beat his opponent even though on paper he should have won. Goran's game left a lot to be desired and he appeared not to 'deserve it'.

Yet I didn't walk around saying Goran had taken the Tennis out of Tennis.

Show some damn character Benson and accept that Alex lost the gameshow and that he is your favourite. No amount of Kate & Jonny bashing or BB questioning or moaning and whiging is ever gonna change that.

Alex whinged throughout the show, that's why he lost. Well learn from his mistakes.
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But that's not a good analogy. Tim and Goran are both professional Tennis players and were competing by being themselves. They were in *equal* ground.
BB HMs are supposed to be themselves and show their real emotions. If we have actors against real people in BB tthen that defeat the purpose of the show itself.
malcom
28-07-2002
.

Is it that difficult to understand (Even Jade could) that two being left meant that one was going to win and being fun people simply wanted to do a little celebratory thingy with which ever one that one. There is no great masterly acting come what actressing you jerks. Just two people being innovative on the final night.


This is one of the worst threads I have read. It should be re-named


SOUR GRAPES.............
malcom
28-07-2002
. Repeat performance.

Is it that difficult to understand (Even Jade could) that two being left meant that one was going to win and being fun people simply wanted to do a little celebratory thingy with which ever one that won. There is no great masterly acting come what actressing you jerks. Just two people being innovative on the final night.


This is one of the worst threads I have read. It should be re-named


SOUR GRAPES.............
fredt
28-07-2002
jonnys moment of glory may have been cut short by davina but so was alex's voting time i was still trying to vote when the second show started and it was some time in when davina said that it had closed at 9.50 (that was during friends) so i felt robbed
Devilot
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by malcom
. Repeat performance.

Is it that difficult to understand (Even Jade could) that two being left meant that one was going to win and being fun people simply wanted to do a little celebratory thingy with which ever one that won. There is no great masterly acting come what actressing you jerks. Just two people being innovative on the final night.


This is one of the worst threads I have read. It should be re-named


SOUR GRAPES.............
”

Saying it twice doesnt make you right!!

My point is, why talk about what they are going to do at all? Why, if theyre such funny and natural people, could they not have just done what came naturally, and go with the emotion? Why plan to roll around on the floor? FFS, if they were sooo funny, JUST DO IT!!! Dont have stage directions!!
fatherjack
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fredt
jonnys moment of glory may have been cut short by davina but so was alex's voting time i was still trying to vote when the second show started and it was some time in when davina said that it had closed at 9.50 (that was during friends) so i felt robbed ”

( wormy little impostor )
Did it ever cross your mind that somewhere out there, somebody would be doing the same for jonny or kate? NO!
alex lost get over it for christ sake, no wonder the rest of the world refer to the british as whingers!!!!!
studley
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by hyacinthbee


Saying it twice doesnt make you right!!

”

Something you Alex nuts seem to overlook, a bit like you over look all his faults. Did he have a go at Sandy having found out what he did? Did he hell, oh er.... he was drunk.. er... he said sorry.... yeah right on Alex you tell him mate.

Ok bring on the excuses Alex fans, trot out your usual rubbish in the way the only you can.
Benson
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by studley


Something you Alex nuts seem to overlook, a bit like you over look all his faults. Did he have a go at Sandy having found out what he did? Did he hell, oh er.... he was drunk.. er... he said sorry.... yeah right on Alex you tell him mate.

Ok bring on the excuses Alex fans, trot out your usual rubbish in the way the only you can.
”

Well at least Alex didn't compromise his genuineness by acting up to the cameras for nine weeks. Most see Alex as the true winner because Jonny and Kate earned their votes by performing rather than showing their true characters.

BB is a reality TV show. People watch it to see real people showing genuine feelings and emotions, they have been duped by the actors.
fatherjack
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


Well at least Alex didn't compromise his genuineness by acting up to the cameras for nine weeks. Most see Alex as the true winner because Jonny and Kate earned their votes by performing rather than showing their true characters.

BB is a reality TV show. People watch it to see real people showing genuine feelings and emotions, they have been duped by the actors.
”

( wormy little impostor )

I think they need to open a virtual landfill site to bury some of the rubbish being posted on here!
Did you hear Jonnies mum, dad and joanne saying jonny is just being himself! are they all actors too? his colleagues said the same thing! Go and have a drink man, calm down!
Benson
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fatherjack


( wormy little impostor )

I think they need to open a virtual landfill site to bury some of the rubbish being posted on here!
Did you hear Jonnies mum, dad and joanne saying jonny is just being himself! are they all actors too? his colleagues said the same thing! Go and have a drink man, calm down!
”

I would have expected nothing else. Jonny himself admitted that all his mates on the outside will be saying "that's not you Jonny". Just because his family come out with some crap about him showing his true self does not make them actors.
fatherjack
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


I would have expected nothing else. Jonny himself admitted that all his mates on the outside will be saying "that's not you Jonny". Just because his family come out with some crap about him showing his true self does not make them actors.
”

( wormy little impostor )
And I would expect no less than a jonny quote taken out of context! "that's not you Jonny" referred to the Sandy Incident where jonny showed restraint, such a terrible trait!!! rolleyes:
Oh and jonnies family talk crap? didnt realise they were HM's!


And on the 64th day God did say unto the housemates...........
Alex, you are history, get yer a**e out of there, jonny and kate are the chosen people!
Sparkles
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by SugarHiccup
The show is over...Kate won.....Jonny second place.....ALEX DIDN'T WIN. get over it!

Jeeez, some people!
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Hey..this isn't easy...

I am still not over Brian winning last year.
Al the Cynic
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Richey


I can't see what was wrong with Al's post, he was just saying what he preferred to watch, I can't see him moaning or complaining that any housemate won or lost. The fact that you, as normal, just revert to cheap insults and jibes just confirms our low opinion of you and your debating skills and, basically, makes you look a fool.
”

No need to defend me I assure you.

I just added the little t*sspot to the kill list.
Oh what the heck: tosspot ... lets be honest ...

the little jerk is probably so unhappy because having won he's realised what a hollow victory it was. If he can silence those who have the other view perhaps it will become so.

Jezza has gone for me --- and there was light
Benson
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fatherjack


( wormy little impostor )
And I would expect no less than a jonny quote taken out of context! "that's not you Jonny" referred to the Sandy Incident where jonny showed restraint, such a terrible trait!!! rolleyes:
Oh and jonnies family talk crap? didnt realise they were HM's!


And on the 64th day God did say unto the housemates...........
Alex, you are history, get yer a**e out of there, jonny and kate are the chosen people!
”

Just accept the fact that you are posting on one of the most informed BB sites. If you want the real facts you come to THIS site because it overlooks the biased editting and reporting.

That is why there is a strong Alex following.
fatherjack
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


Just accept the fact that you are posting on one of the most informed BB sites. If you want the real facts you come to THIS site because it overlooks the biased editting and reporting.

That is why there is a strong Alex following.
”

( wormy little impostor )

Then why only 44%????????
eden2uk
28-07-2002
But the whole point of this thread is that it was not a clear victory or defeat. People feel cheated and have every right to express their opinion about it. It's like the American election, there were dubious voting campain practices, Al Gore won the popular votes, yet dump Bush became president. People are still debating that Bush's victory, just as here people are debating Kate's victory. It's called freedom of speech. Quote

Here's my little bit of freedom of speech: The only cheats in the game were Sandy, Adele & Tim. Kate & Jonny were accused of cheating left right & centre by Alex's so called friends and they used the poor lads dispute with Jonny to cause the war between them. The only actors in this was the three above because they never showed their true personalities to Alex or the other HMs to avoid nomination especially in the case of Adele & Tim. None were sweet ppl which is what they portrayed to the others with their false hugs and kind words. Then they had the cheek to try and impose their opinions on the public. Yes I agree that Jonny & Kate could be annoying at times, but they were voted because of a whole load of other qualities which had a kindness caring & possitive attitude towards the game. They considered other ppls feelings which is more than I can say for Sandy, Adele & Tim and in the process of the viciousness towards Jonny, Kate, Sophie and others Alex's mind was severly poisoned and it's funny how he was at his best when with Kate & co. Alex's closest friends brought out the negative side of both him and Jade. When all these accusations and bad feelings started and when Alison was evicted Jonny said that he believed the public would out the wrong uns and know who the good ones were. If they had of been cheating or acting they would not of implyed this and why Kate didn't want to do the fall was because she was frightend she would of ripped her dress. They new they would be the last two because they believed they played the game honest and true and that the public knew they had. I loved Alex, but if he had of not been so condescending and understood the real world a bit more he would of made friends with Jonny a lot sooner than he did and would of been the winner. One last note Kate & Jonny were never called in for a warning for talking with eachother and influencing Nominations like Adele Alex & Jade although Alex was never an instigator as he would of recieved a strike. (I think BB knew he was their pawn). Alex was honest and true just like Kate Jonny PJ Sophie and co unlike his arrogant, selfish friends who lost the game for him.
Benson
28-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by fatherjack


( wormy little impostor )

Then why only 44%????????
”

That is a higher percentage than Kate scored in the voting. Face facts, but for the biased editting and reports Alex would have won.
jezza
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


That is a higher percentage than Kate scored in the voting. Face facts, but for the biased editting and reports Alex would have won.
”

no YOU face facts. Alex lost and this board (fortunately) is not representitive of the wider view

probably because the Alex mob that infiltrated this board mid June chased off many of the BB fans that didn't like Alex.
jezza
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by observer


BB HMs are supposed to be themselves and show their real emotions. If we have actors against real people in BB tthen that defeat the purpose of the show itself.
”

no they are not

it's just you are so arrogant you think you can make up the rules of the game
fatherjack
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


That is a higher percentage than Kate scored in the voting. Face facts, but for the biased editting and reports Alex would have won.
”

( wormy little impostor )
This was the DS poll fool! you know , home territory!
huysoska
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


That is a higher percentage than Kate scored in the voting. Face facts, but for the biased editting and reports Alex would have won.
”

Benson , even I - Alex supporter have to admit you are talking complete shite here.
huysoska
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by huysoska


Benson , even I - Alex supporter have to admit you are talking complete shite here.
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Not in relation to biased editing. I mean the DS Poll.
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