NO, she would NOT! Because her views about Jade were known!!

That was AFTER he realised that she nominated him during the last nominations, that is when he started to really doubt Kate's hidden agenda!!!

As far as Kate goes, there was NO relationship from her side, she just played Alex for a fool!!!

Also although Alex didn't nominate Kate he was quite bitchy about her behind her back to Tim.

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That was AFTER he realised that she nominated him during the last nominations, that is when he started to really doubt Kate's hidden agenda!!!

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It on the night of PJs eviction he started being bitchy about Kate when Tim said he wanted to go and Alex said how can you expect me to stay with them three idiots and went off on a tirade about them. From that moment on Alex distanced himself from Kate and got moody.

You should get yourself another name obs as everytime you make a comment against Kate it is alway's observed wrong. As I was a fan of the top three I can view things more objectfully. Yes I can see Alex's point on how they could of got on his nerves, but he demonised them which they didn't deserve as they were as nice and genuine as he was. Kate put her finger on Alex's problem on the Monday and said that his mind had been poisoned against them. Jonny akso pointed out how he and Alex never realy started to get to know one another until the final week and Kate has said she dosn't realy know him. I hope Alex, Kate & Jonny will come to realise that they could of become good friends without others that poison minds.

No he did NOT bitch about her that evening!! Else you will have to quote him to see what kind of bitchiness you have in mind!!
I just dislike it when people (like YOU) exagerate about what have been said or what happened.

She has only JONNY to blame, we have al lseen him how he ALWAYS interrupted them and NEVER left them ALONE!!

Ahh, I see where the confusion came from regarding who nominated who in what week. I happen to think the Alex is annoyed at being nominated both weeks by Kate (last week in poorhouse and last nomination) You refer to Kate and Alex playing follow the van

' that one week, where Kate may (!!!) have kissed him '

They played it three times that we know of:

With Adele on day 40 ( kissing and touching - see A. Bevan's report! - no fan of Alex BTW)
In week of PJ's eviction
In last week of BB, with Jonny and Jade present ( for a short while and albeit not explicitly, i.e. Kate not nude as described by Alex)


Kate's sensitivity to public knowledge of her activities

I wasn't actually knocking her for it, merely illiustrating why she might feel strongly about a person who exposed her in this way. Alex said that Jade told all and sundry these things, supposedly a confidence broke.
Again, if Kate feels this strongly about protecting her image, I'd have thought she'd have held it against Jade at nomination time. Personally I think she chose instead to get the floating voter on side....which subsequently happened.

Alex told her that he had said a few things about her in the diary room, which actually were never shown to us, but did happen...

So for all she knew, he may have been just as responsible for her being perceived that way, if she was. Of course, he did apologise to her for that, but the fact he seperated himself along with Tim away from the others, must have made her wonder again just whether he was being honest or not.

That week was a silly week though, because they all knew that as long as Tim was up, he'd be the one going, so what did it matter really?

"With Adele on day 40 ( kissing and touching - see A. Bevan's report! - no fan of Alex BTW)"

Adele said in one of the tabloids the only real snog during that, happened between her and Kate.


"In week of PJ's eviction"

yeah, Alex put his head under her covers twice, and then it seemed to be her that stopped it, and that's when Alex told her everything.

"In last week of BB, with Jonny and Jade present ( for a short while and albeit not explicitly, i.e. Kate not nude as described by Alex)"

Aye. Although, actually, if this is the saturday one, they had a cuddle, which Alex said he needed, and I guess she did as well, and then Jonny kept butting in and Alex ran off to get his van, and nothing really happened as Jonny kept getting himself involved.

Said it once, will say it again, Spencer should have won Big Brother 3 and would have won Big Brother by a country mile. I still have no clue how he ended up being evicted.

Spencer would have won BB why? He didn't even make it to the awards in any of the clips other than Jades.

Dunno about won it but he was a firm favourite. If he had gone up against Kate at that point he would have beaten her I think.

A week is a very long time in the BB house. Public opinion is easily swayed. Also there were rumours of a voting fix. Who knows.

You can't argue the fact he was up against one of the last four in the house. Therefore it was always gonna be tough.

Personally, I would have much preferd Spencer being in the last four than Johnny.

Sorry I made a mistake he was in the diary room moments ~ maybe he should have entered a comp on Blue Peter.

I was just thinking tonight that it was nice to see Kate as an individual rather than Jonny's prop.

We don't know if the alledged incedent between the three took place. 'IF' it did I believe Alexs motives to be confusion and jealousy. I don't imagine that he is annoyed at Kate winning (though he would have preferred Jade) because he previously said quite plainly that he didn't want to win.

Alex behaved quite badly towards Kate sometimes and was often rude and condescending behind her back yet still continued to lust after her when he wasn't in control (drunk). Kate showed better manners yet still denied that she had any feelings or affection for him (espescally to a clearly puzzled and slightly jealous Jonny) until she too was drunk. All of the others must have been curious but Jade was the only one to call her on this and she didn't like it.

I watched them both on the last night in the house. Jade was making rather crude advances to Alex which he constantly rebuffed. Jade got more and determined and at one point, when she discovered them hidden under the boat in the pool yelled 'You're snogging, get off him!' When Kate snuggled next to him later in the bath they both looked very happy. My guess is that they were both embarrassed by fancying each other, neither thought the other good enough for them.

In conclusion, as my Nan would say 'Six of one and half a dozen of the other'

Kate's probably better suited to Spencer in the long run, he's more conventional. I wish them all well. I liked all three...

i'm to say that while i've been logged-on much of today i've sort of been elsewhere (PM-land etc) so this is the first chance i've had to post to this issue.

from what i can gather the Sunday Mail was the only newspaper given access to the after-show party.

this was i assume because

*in BB2 all the Scittish papers were excluded from the event and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth to BBs detriment - i believe they decided to make up for this this year.
*the Daily Record and the Sunday Mail have adopted the only red-top non-partisan approach throughout the last 9 weeks and were perhaps respected by BB for this approach to reporting.

imho the Record and Sunday Mail are the best red-tops around and rarely get it wrong; the number of criminals serving time in Scotland due to there investigative reporting is testimony to that.

while they are part of the same newsgroup as the Mirror their reporting style and editorial stance is entirely different and cannot be likened to any of the English/Welsh tabloids or those that purport to be Scottish editions from the mainstream (the [Scottish] Sun etc).

hope this clear up why they are the only one's to report this story so far. and perhaps put into perspective the editorial policy and consititency of valid reporting of the newsaper concerned.

Deerd
hoping this gives context.

I totally agree with you on this

joyfully adding 'Tony's Harem' to my map of Scotland

Deerd
spreading positive, non-sandy celtic influence - best of all it's a laugh

Sunday Mail and the Record do tend to be far more reliable papers, and if it is true that they were the only ones with access to the after show party, then it gives this story a lot more credibility, but I can't understand why a paper like the Sun wouldn't have picked up on this story yet!? (Of course, it is only monday)

Anyway, the one thing we do know for sure is that Jade and Kate won't be seeing each other on a one to one basis again. Jade now says she'd like to chin her - charming.

I agree to an extent, they are generally filled with good reporting. However this was hardly an unbiased article, saying it was from a source. Whether they were the only press there or not, do you really think if something like that had actually happened, the other tabloids wouldn't have had their source? They have got it wrong in the past, putting false stories on the front page. I was shocked by the wording of what is usually a fair and unbiased paper.

p.s. isn't that a place in Fife - Angel

for some reason the seamier parts of Kircaldy spring to mind

Deerd
celtic charm just goes on and on it was especially charming of us not to qualify for the WC just to give our much loved southern neighbours a better chance . hope the favour's returned in 4yrs time so that we have a better chance of...well...mmm...getting to the 2nd round

for the Daily Record 192 reporters:

r.fulton@dailyrecord.co.uk

(don't know how to actually create the link )

i have found him to be responsive to emails and is, himself, a genuine BB fan.

his editor isn't - so he said.

this could have been the reason for the non-partisan approach that the DR and SM took.

i'm just providing the info as i know it.

but on track record i have little doubt that the reported incident took place.

Deerd
quite chuffed with the image of spence as noble knight and kate as damsel in distress - and gleefully suspending all my feminist based concerns (other than those regarding alex's continued attitude towards women)

I am glad I don't read the tabloids in the BB forums I have visited each one and each has something different to tell about certain tabloid. I don't know what happened, neither does anyone else and each tabloid has wrote a different story about the after party so why anyone here take any notice about what is written in the tabloid is beyond me.

i'm sure ther are some who do know exactly what happened.

the Sunday Mail were the only ones with exclusive (oops tautological) access to the party.

i cannot vouch 100%

BUT

i'm sure that critical interpretation varies on all levels of the written word.

Deerd
always having to defend Jane Austen to those who seem not to appreciate wit and conceit.

Having watched Kate's first interview this morning on GMTV it appears there is not truth whatsoever in this newspaper report.

She was asked it was true that she and Alex had got into a fight over him being unhappy to have not won. Kate was confused with the question obviously having not seen the report. She had no idea what they were talking about. She said the only person she had a problem with was Jade, who was the only one not to congratulate her and said she wanted to chin her in a newspaper.

Sounds like sour grapes to me from newspapers that haven't been given an interview by Alex.

Is it possible she simply couldn't *remember* the argument? It wouldn't be the first time she had no idea what people were talking about the morning after...

Alex was manipulated by no-one at all. He has a problem sussing ppl as he admitted, he often worries that women only want him for the way he looks (there sure is nothing else to want him for)! Because he misjudged so many ppl in the house, he now blames them for being manipulative ha ha! As I have said before, he needs to grow up and get real. It isn't surprising that the superficial world he lives in - and with parents like those he started off screwed up - has made him edgy and suspicious. I guess his gut feel is correct - he is unpopular as a person, but has the looks for certain advertising campaigns. He is aware that his looks won't last or by next month they won't fit the bill any more, and he is concerned about where he goes from here. My suggestion would be Alex - not on live TV in front of millions

why are people still using this thread and pushing it up to the top of the topics? It has been shown to be what I thought it was in the first place...biased garbage. OOps...I've just pushed it up lol sorry