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bystander
29-07-2002
The media frenzy for romances between Kate and Spencer and Alex and Adelle look like falling flat, going by some remarks on RI:SE this morning.
When asked, Jonny said that Kate and Spencer didn't get it on at the after house parties, he sounded very certain. Alex said that the stuff about him and Adelle had been blown up out of all proportion.
Babycatcher
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by bystander
The media frenzy for romances between Kate and Spencer and Alex and Adelle look like falling flat, going by some remarks on RI:SE this morning.
When asked, Jonny said that Kate and Spencer didn't get it on at the after house parties, he sounded very certain. Alex said that the stuff about him and Adelle had been blown up out of all proportion.
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You just have to look at the body language between them on BBLB yesterday to see that romance is a non-starter.
Dedee
29-07-2002
I don't know about Alex and Adele but I read something about Spencer that made me laugh!

The article read that he's not gonna get involved with Kate because he's going out with a porn star. They quoted her name but I cannot remember it.

Has anybody else heard anything about that?

p.s he's a sad excuse for a man. He thinks he's god's gift when he clearly isn't! Get a life mate. You were booted out on week 4. We don't care!
bystander
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Dedee
I don't know about Alex and Adele but I read something about Spencer that made me laugh!

The article read that he's not gonna get involved with Kate because he's going out with a porn star. They quoted her name but I cannot remember it.

Has anybody else heard anything about that?

p.s he's a sad excuse for a man. He thinks he's god's gift when he clearly isn't! Get a life mate. You were booted out on week 4. We don't care!
”

Kate, going out with a millionaire, then going out with Spencer, a Shop Assistant / Punt Pusher on the river.............It might last.

PS: No disrespect to Shop Assistants or Punt people.
Inge Jones
29-07-2002
There was a "body-language" cameo with Jade and Alex on the sofa chat bit, as Alex had his arm on the seat back behind Jade and she was sort of curled into him with her upper body (not touching I don't mean). Then, didn't he reach out to Jade's arm in a sort of guiding gesture as they went to go back to the table? Or was that some production person reaching out from behind Alex?

I think Alex became very fond of Jade at the end, although I imagine even if he did fancy her he possibly wouldn't really admit it to himself, as he might prefer to go out with a girl who is more conventionally attractive (ie slimmer, "cooler" etc). Sometimes young people (I'm 49 so I can call him young) are concerned about what other people think of their partners.

About Alex and Adele, it's possible that once Alex has a chance to see and hear from his parents things that were shown but that he didn't see at the time, he won't think as much of Adele. We know he took against Kate bigtime when he found out she'd done something he didn't know about before - was it just the nominations or was there something else? Conversely, he might be a little more impressed with Jade when his parents told him that Jade's interview showed clips that proved she hadn't been two-faced - they'd have watched that not long before Alex came out.
Babycatcher
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Inge Jones
There was a "body-language" cameo with Jade and Alex on the sofa chat bit, as Alex had his arm on the seat back behind Jade and she was sort of curled into him with her upper body (not touching I don't mean). Then, didn't he reach out to Jade's arm in a sort of guiding gesture as they went to go back to the table? Or was that some production person reaching out from behind Alex?
”

Yes I spotted that sofa bit too. But I don't think it is romance in the air. Thy may end up as friends though. They bounced off each other quite well in the House.
And I thought it was Alexs hand. It would figure as he is polite.
gmguru
29-07-2002
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“You just have to look at the body language between them on BBLB yesterday to see that romance is a non- starter.”

You just had to look at their body language in the house to see it was a none starter.
Babycatcher
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by gmguru


You just had to look at their body language in the house to see it was a none starter.
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Well, in the case of Spencer and Kate, definitely.

Alex and Adele looked more promising, but no longer I fear.
observer
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Inge Jones
There was a "body-language" cameo with Jade and Alex on the sofa chat bit, as Alex had his arm on the seat back behind
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I interpreted that as him wanting to be a bit away from Jonny as they were both sitting close to each other.
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About Alex and Adele, it's possible that once Alex has a chance to see and hear from his parents things that were shown but that he didn't see at the time, he won't think as much of Adele. We know he took against Kate bigtime when he found out she'd done something he didn't know about before - was it just the nominations or was there something else? Conversely, he might be a little more impressed with Jade when his parents told him that Jade's interview showed clips that proved she hadn't been two-faced - they'd have watched that not long before Alex came out.
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First of all, he was/is upset with Kate because she has been 2 faced with HIM. He wont be upset with Adele because she has not backstabbed him or being 2 faced with HIM. He knew (while in the house because Adele told him) that she was 2 faced with Jonny and Jade, but he also knew that Adele was not the Sandy type to go and tell people on their face that she doesn't like them.

Secondly, Jade WAS 2 faced with Alex, are you on an amnesia mode? He confronted her and discussed her 2 facedness with her whilst they were in the house and she admit to it and apologised to him, so I don't think he will know anything knew.
bbjason
29-07-2002
Well i think the Kate & Spencer thing could work

and whats with the comment about him only being a shop assistant and a punt opperator, and her dating a millionaire, yes she did but ended it with him, Love is not about money

and if it was i am sure they would be fine he has raked in 500,000 through mag interviews 60,000 on tv, and is getting so many offers model wise etc that he is having to turn some down, not bad for a punt opperator / shop assistant.

Its obvious kate has a thing for spencer but was never sure how he felt but now she knows he likes her too who knows what could happen, He did say in an interview when he left the house that he had the , closest bond with her in the house and would see her again just as a mate or more but would have to see how she felt and thought about it.

and at the after show party i read that she said to him

i've really missed you, i think your lovley

she then added i like you so much, we can make it work.

they just dont like the idea of the "romance" being in the public eye.

As for the bblb awards she was sitting right next to him and at one point stroking his head.

plus as for her carry on with alex in the house its was just fun, they only really played follow the van proper and it was when adele was there, look at the time alex got in the double bed although jonny was carrying on etc when he was'nt she was telling alex to go back to his own bed, and when alex left the room to light his van she said i dont like being in this bed with alex he gets too cuddly.

as for being in a double bed with spencer did not see her complaining there, even let him have a fiddle and the only reason she did not like the fiddle was the idea on the cameras, as for cuddly look at the amount out time she would got to spencer to hug her and even get in his bed to let him hug her and a few night spent the night in his bed with his arm around her, and on the poor side they used to lie awake troking each others heads or holding hands.

and when he left she was devestated, right up to the final week she would wear his hat and walk about singing oasis songs, she slept in his bed for 2 weeks after her left, she made cakes etc for his birthday even though he was not there to celebrate it.

not bothered if they work out or not but good luck to them if they do

neither of them done anything really all that bad in the house and as for kate being 2faced to alex, when? because alex told jade he did not see the final nomination vote as a 2faced vote just tactical and said he was fine with it and the week b4 she had to choose between alex and timand through the time in the house tim never really done anything wrong were kate was concerned apart from talk about her behind her back but she never knew about that, kate was not 2faced

the only people that dont think/want them to work are either alex fans or jealous little girlie spencer fans as they want him for themself, pathetic

as for the alex / adele thing i dont know much about but do know that they too are supposed to have spent alot of time together at the after show party even though seemed distant at the bblb awards.

but lets not forget BB3's big romance NO not sophine and lee, not big red and betty not PJ and himself but the one true love story, Jade & Avid Merrion that is going to be wedding of the year

She Will Like Him, He Is Warm
beermonster
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Dedee
I don't know about Alex and Adele but I read something about Spencer that made me laugh!

The article read that he's not gonna get involved with Kate because he's going out with a porn star. They quoted her name but I cannot remember it.

”

"Elsey Blowhard"
bbjason
29-07-2002
which newspaper was the thing about spencer and the porn star in
gazza71
29-07-2002
Well, they looked rather close at those awards... Not many seemed to notice her stroking his neck at one point.

She obviously fancies him like mad, so it's all down to him really. From what he's said since, there's no way of knowing... One minute she's someone he would approach in a bar and fancied, and then the next she's not, and he sees her as just a mate.

I'm sure we'll have to wait a while before anything though... Loads of speculation first. Helen and Paul were the same.
Inge Jones
29-07-2002
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“Secondly, Jade WAS 2 faced with Alex, are you on an amnesia mode? He confronted her and discussed her 2 facedness with her whilst they were in the house and she admit to it and apologised to him, so I don't think he will know anything knew.”

I agree he confronted her in this way, and at the time she denied it quite vigorously, leading to an even worse breakdown in relations. Later she tried hard to make friends with him again, and conceded some points, but I don't think she went as far as admitting being two-faced.

Then the post-eviction video clips showed Jade saying things to people's faces that were the same as she'd said about them to other people. They may not have been nice things, but being unpleasant isn't the same as being two-faced. That should make her acceptable to people who can take a certain amount of rudeness provided it's honest.
Drifting
29-07-2002
I am not being horrible to Adele, I think she is pretty in her own way and very clever. But Alex is a model, has met far more attractive women than her and will continue to do so. Alex even before coming to the house was invited to parties where the elite went to, he did say he went to the same party as Lady Tara. Adele would never fit in to his world, she could be the nicest girl in the world but she would not be in the league of the girls he is used to hang around with. After all Adele did say to Jade when she was very young she was brought up on a council estate. We have all seen the house Alex was brought up in, it is very posh and would Adele really fit in to that world? I think not.
observer
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Inge Jones

That should make her acceptable to people who can take a certain amount of rudeness provided it's honest.
”

How's that not applied to Sandy?! After all he was the least 2 faced in that house and told Jonny and Kate what he thought of them. Yet people didn't like his 'honesty' and is still not "acceptable to people who can take a certain amount of rudeness provided it's honest. "
beermonster
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Drifting
I am not being horrible to Adele, I think she is pretty in her own way and very clever. But Alex is a model, has met far more attractive women than her and will continue to do so. Alex even before coming to the house was invited to parties where the elite went to, he did say he went to the same party as Lady Tara. Adele would never fit in to his world, she could be the nicest girl in the world but she would not be in the league of the girls he is used to hang around with. After all Adele did say to Jade when she was very young she was brought up on a council estate. We have all seen the house Alex was brought up in, it is very posh and would Adele really fit in to that world? I think not. ”

And I agree. Adele has the body of a high school boy & a personality of a dead snail that has just been caught under your shoe.
Inge Jones
29-07-2002
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“How's that not applied to Sandy?! After all he was the least 2 faced in that house and told Jonny and Kate what he thought of them. Yet people didn't like his 'honesty' and is still not "acceptable to people who can take a certain amount of rudeness provided it's honest. "”

Observer, don't try to apply my comment outside its intended context. I was specifically comparing the relative attitudes Alex might hypothetically have towards Adele and towards Jade after getting out of the house and seeing stuff he couldn't see at the time. I was not even attempting to discuss or compare anyone else's attitudes towards anyone else (not as part of this threadlet anyway).

If you want to change the subject and ask me what I thought of Sandy as a separate issue, then that's a different matter. I hadn't started watching while he was in it, but from the snippets I have seen of him, I don't think I would have liked him. But anyway, how do you know there aren't people who do accept him for being "rude but honest"?
observer
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Inge Jones

Observer, don't try to apply my comment outside its intended context
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When you state "people who can take a certain amount of rudeness provided it's honest" surely you were talking about people in general, right? If not, what kind of people you were talking about that can be applied only to Jade's context?!
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But anyway, how do you know there aren't people who do accept him for being "rude but honest"?
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Sure there are, but they are in the[SIZE=1]minority![/SIZE]
lacy
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Drifting
I am not being horrible to Adele, I think she is pretty in her own way and very clever. But Alex is a model, has met far more attractive women than her and will continue to do so. Alex even before coming to the house was invited to parties where the elite went to, he did say he went to the same party as Lady Tara. Adele would never fit in to his world, she could be the nicest girl in the world but she would not be in the league of the girls he is used to hang around with. After all Adele did say to Jade when she was very young she was brought up on a council estate. We have all seen the house Alex was brought up in, it is very posh and would Adele really fit in to that world? I think not. ”

This has got to be the most backward thing I have ever heard on this forum. You might as well as come out and say that people of different backgrounds, Race, Culture, Relilgion should not date. I believe this is what you are really trying to say in a round about way
Inge Jones
29-07-2002
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“When you state "people who can take a certain amount of rudeness provided it's honest" surely you were talking about people in general, right? If not, what kind of people you were talking about that can be applied only to Jade's context?!”

Well I was thinking of Alex, whose main gripe was two-facedness when he thought he saw it, but - since you mention Sandy - who seemed to like Sandy (rude but apparently honest about it). If you are keen to expand the scope of the comment, then I don't suppose Alex is the only person in the world with this value system.
Inge Jones
29-07-2002
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“You might as well as come out and say that people of different backgrounds, Race, Culture, Relilgion should not date. I believe this is what you are really trying to say in a round about way”

Lacy, I think Drifting was trying (rightly or wrongly) to speculate what Alex's point of view might be rather than express her own. Drifting, sorry if I got your gender wrong, I didn't look up your profile before posting.
chrissie
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Drifting

Adele would never fit in to his world, she could be the nicest girl in the world but she would not be in the league of the girls he is used to hang around with.
After all Adele did say to Jade when she was very young she was brought up on a council estate. We have all seen the house Alex was brought up in, it is very posh and would Adele really fit in to that world? I think not. [/b]”

I have to disagree - some of the people in this so-called elite world is full of people who have risen up through the 'ranks' from very humble beginnings through pop music - acting - modelling - [dare i say it] - drug dealing.

Some of the models - who agreed are beautiful - have been spotted in the slum districts of the world - some of the best looking - when they open their mouths to speak - they hardly talk posh like
lacy
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Inge Jones


Lacy, I think Drifting was trying (rightly or wrongly) to speculate what Alex's point of view might be rather than express her own. Drifting, sorry if I got your gender wrong, I didn't look up your profile before posting.
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I think you will find that Adele is more educated than Alex who finished his education at 16. On intellectual levels, Alex has often stated that he learnt alot from her. Alex, when speaking in house told his housemates that, his father had no further education, and did not come from a middle class background, but like many people of his time used his tenacity to build up a business, not relying on education attainment, but life skills.

He also stated that he did not grow up in a privledge background, but when older when his father's business became successful spent his last three years at a private school which he hated.

Also answer the question this stigma of growing up on a council estate has on a person, myself speaking from a person who had a happy childhood growing up on one. Also this never stopped me from being successful in life.
Drifting
29-07-2002
I didn't mean to cause such trouble, I was only pointing out not that I agree with it but unfortunately that we still live in a world with stereotypes. Many of us here would find it hard sitting at a table with the friends of Lady Tara including myself, whereas Alex would not because he has been living in that type of world, Adele on the other hand may find it hard to be accepted. On the other side of the coin those who speak with a posh accent may find it hard to be accepted by those who do come from a council estate. I remember when I was at school for example, a girl who spoke like she came from an upper class family was bullied because of it. Thanks Inge Jones for understanding that I was not stating my point of view and yes I am a her.
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