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The Whole Kate-Alex Love-Hate situation...
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Mart - Ma Rule
29-07-2002
I've just reallised why was Alex so pissed off at Kate because he found out she nominated him every week....?? He found that out.... got a bit pissed off....and complained and bitched to Jade about what she did to him..... Wait a sec... Isnt that the same thing what he's doing to her?!!

At the very start of BB3...Kate and Alex made it clear to each other that they had a 'thing' for one another....

Then suddenly she blocked him out for Spencer.... Alex got pissed (but kept it to himself) so he started having a go at her for no reason (ie. Juggling the oranges) Kate wasnt to pleased with Alex's reaction (obviously! who would be?!) so she started nominating him...(every week by the way!)

As soon as Spence got evicted.... the two started bonding again (which is nice to see) But then Alex found out she'd nominate him every week..... he got pissed off....and bitched about her to Jade.... He was complaining to Jade about what Kate did...but isnt that exactly what he's doing to Kate???!

At the start Kate hurt Alex's feelings by blocking him out..... He shouted at her...
Alex hurt Kate's feelings by shouting at her....so she nominated him every week... which later Alex found out....
Kate hurt Alex's feelings by nominating him.... so he bitched about her to Jade (and obviously Jade would agree because Jade cant stand Kate's attention from the lads!)

Can anyone see where this is going? Alex was and still is complaining about how 2-faced Kate is...but never reallised that he's doing the same thing?
One hurt another......so another nominate or bitch! So it wasnt entirely Kate's fault was it?

Oh and did anyone read about the Alex & Spencer bust up?? Alex complained that Kate was two-faced..... for christs sake shut your trap!

Dont get me wrong I do like Alex but he need to drop this whole situation...

By the way...are Alex and Kate friends now??? (lol) Anything interesting in the papers today?
chrissie
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Mart - Ma Rule
I've just reallised why was Alex so pissed off at Kate because he found out she nominated him every week....?? He found that out.... got a bit pissed off....and complained and bitched to Jade about what she did to him..... Wait a sec... Isnt that the same thing what he's doing to her?!!

At the very start of BB3...Kate and Alex made it clear to each other that they had a 'thing' for one another....

Then suddenly she blocked him out for Spencer.... Alex got pissed (but kept it to himself) so he started having a go at her for no reason (ie. Juggling the oranges) Kate wasnt to pleased with Alex's reaction (obviously! who would be?!) so she started nominating him...(every week by the way!)

As soon as Spence got evicted.... the two started bonding again (which is nice to see) But then Alex found out she'd nominate him every week..... he got pissed off....and bitched about her to Jade.... He was complaining to Jade about what Kate did...but isnt that exactly what he's doing to Kate???!

At the start Kate hurt Alex's feelings by blocking him out..... He shouted at her...
Alex hurt Kate's feelings by shouting at her....so she nominated him every week... which later Alex found out....
Kate hurt Alex's feelings by nominating him.... so he bitched about her to Jade (and obviously Jade would agree because Jade cant stand Kate's attention from the lads!)

Can anyone see where this is going? Alex was and still is complaining about how 2-faced Kate is...but never reallised that he's doing the same thing?
One hurt another......so another nominate or bitch! So it wasnt entirely Kate's fault was it?

Oh and did anyone read about the Alex & Spencer bust up?? Alex complained that Kate was two-faced..... for christs sake shut your trap!

Dont get me wrong I do like Alex but he need to drop this whole situation...

By the way...are Alex and Kate friends now??? (lol) Anything interesting in the papers today?
”



yawn
intj
29-07-2002
Don't believe everything you read in the Scottish tabloid press. Oned separate occasions a friend and a distant relative have been subject to untrue rerporting and harassment by reporters from the Sunday Mail and the Daily Record. When questioned about a supposed bust-up with Alex on GMTv this morning, kate didn't have a clue what they were on about.
Mart - Ma Rule
29-07-2002
Yeah but remember Kate was drunk.

only joking. lol
Dr Mick
29-07-2002
The after dinner speeches in the house told you all you needed to know about this particular 'relationship'.

Kate: "Alex, you're fit......and, errrrrr........"

Alex: "Yeah, best just leave it at that"
CPA
29-07-2002
Ok..... right......... I get annoyed when people twist things.
alex was annoyed that he found out that kate nominated him every week.. yes that is fact. Why? because if you remember. ( i wonder at some peoples memorys) They made up and even played follow the van. That week Alex didnt nominate Kate.
He thought that week she had less issues with him than others. Yet she still nominated him !! He didnt !!
A sense of betrayal perhaps ? A feeling of being taken for a ride and been made a fool of?
yes it is a game and she played it well......... too well.... very well acted Bravo!
But remember they are also people with feelings and i think he did have a soft spot for her.
talking of going over old ground..... i noticed Kare bought up the oranges on E4 tonight and that was on her own in the bedroom.
she harbers grudges just the same as the rest of them .......
harping over...... I'm watching E4 this week on winners week and trying to watch it objectively. I'll let you know if she wins me over..... so far she hasnt .... think it was the case of the little girl wanting an autograph. instead of thankyou for voting for her it was " one of 3 million that voted for me " if i was that little girl i would have felt belittled as she was a fan. she didnt need reminding how many others had voted for her.
Devilot
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by CPA
Ok..... right......... I get annoyed when people twist things.
alex was annoyed that he found out that kate nominated him every week.. yes that is fact. Why? because if you remember. ( i wonder at some peoples memorys) They made up and even played follow the van. That week Alex didnt nominate Kate.
He thought that week she had less issues with him than others. Yet she still nominated him !! He didnt !!
A sense of betrayal perhaps ? A feeling of being taken for a ride and been made a fool of?
yes it is a game and she played it well......... too well.... very well acted Bravo!
But remember they are also people with feelings and i think he did have a soft spot for her.
talking of going over old ground..... i noticed Kare bought up the oranges on E4 tonight and that was on her own in the bedroom.
she harbers grudges just the same as the rest of them .......
harping over...... I'm watching E4 this week on winners week and trying to watch it objectively. I'll let you know if she wins me over..... so far she hasnt .... think it was the case of the little girl wanting an autograph. instead of thankyou for voting for her it was " one of 3 million that voted for me " if i was that little girl i would have felt belittled as she was a fan. she didnt need reminding how many others had voted for her.
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Agree with everything you just said CPA - I think Alex genuinely thought the 'issues' were cleared, also some weeks they werent even on the same side (the first week of the divide, when Alex was poor and she was rich), I mean how could she have issues with him that week if she wasnt even living with him? So yes, she did hold grudges, however Alex tended to do so too, I know hes no angel.

Im going to watch the repeat of Winners Week tonight, but have to be honest, she didnt win me over in 9 weeks, so I cant see it being much different. I will try though. Honest.
bbjason
29-07-2002
i honestly dont think alex thinks she was 2faced and if he does then he changes his mind quick.

as he told jade that he did not see the last nominations as 2faced but as tactical and that he was fine with it.
kali
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by CPA
[talking of going over old ground..... i noticed Kare bought up the oranges on E4 tonight and that was on her own in the bedroom.
she harbers grudges just the same as the rest of them .......
harping over...... I'm watching E4 this week on winners week and trying to watch it objectively. I'll let you know if she wins me over..... so far she hasnt .... think it was the case of the little girl wanting an autograph. instead of thankyou for voting for her it was " one of 3 million that voted for me " if i was that little girl i would have felt belittled as she was a fan. she didnt need reminding how many others had voted for her. [/b]”

I have a feeling that all this attention could go to her head. I thought it was very condescending of her with the little girl. Are we about to see another , not so nice side of our little Katie
Devilot
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by kali


I have a feeling that all this attention could go to her head. I thought it was very condescending of her with the little girl. Are we about to see another , not so nice side of our little Katie
”

Oh dear. Its not looking good. But im watching it tonight and i'll save my opinions till then.
kmac
29-07-2002
what happened with the little girl?? 1000 curses on On Digital!!
the scrutineer
29-07-2002
Kate summed it all herself when she said, ' I thought Alex was fit... until he opened his mouth'. Says it all really doesn't it?

I've never understood why some people were so determined to read more into the Kate/Alex dynamic than what was clear for all to see. They shared an attraction very early on but it fizzled away quickly, much to Alex's disappointment. At the end of the day, Kate had every right to nominate him, and Alex prancing around and looking 'betrayed' is just silly. They barely spoke to each other, even in the last week and only ever played Follow the Van when they both had a few drinks. How does that translate into a closeness that was shattered when he found out about her nominations? I thought it was unnecessary for him to go mouthing off to Jade about Kate and stuff that he seemed so determined to keep from Jade in the first place. That was quite childish.

As for Kate being condescending with the girl on E4 tonight, I don't the little girl took offense. Why should anyone?


the scrutineer
kali
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by kmac
what happened with the little girl?? 1000 curses on On Digital!! ”

The little girl wanted her autograph and she said "are you one of the 3 million who voted for me" or words to that effect. It would have made me feel very small !!! I was surprised as I thought she would keep her feet on the ground or maybe I'm being too harsh on her.
It will be on E4 at 11:05 tonight.
kali
29-07-2002
[quote]Originally posted by the scrutineer
[b]Kate summed it all herself when she said, ' I thought Alex was fit... until he opened his mouth'

When did she say this . If it was her after dinner speech, I thought she didn't finish her sentence as Alex said "leave it at that" or something, Correct me if I'm wrong
Devilot
29-07-2002
[quote]Originally posted by kali
[b]
Quote:
“Originally posted by the scrutineer
Kate summed it all herself when she said, ' I thought Alex was fit... until he opened his mouth'

When did she say this . If it was her after dinner speech, I thought she didn't finish her sentence as Alex said "leave it at that" or something, Correct me if I'm wrong
”

You're right, Ive never heard her say - 'until he opened his mouth'.....
Benson
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by kali


The little girl wanted her autograph and she said "are you one of the 3 million who voted for me" or words to that effect. It would have made me feel very small !!! I was surprised as I thought she would keep her feet on the ground or maybe I'm being too harsh on her.
It will be on E4 at 11:05 tonight.
”

If that is what she said then is just goes to show that she's not the brightest of people because 3 million didn't vote for her.
kali
29-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Benson


If that is what she said then is just goes to show that she's not the brightest of people because 3 million didn't vote for her.
”

It showed her earlier in the programme reading that from one of the tabloids
Benson
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by kali


It showed her earlier in the programme reading that from one of the tabloids
”

What, you're saying the paper she was reading said that 3 million voted for her?
Alrightmate
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Mart - Ma Rule
I've just reallised why was Alex so pissed off at Kate because he found out she nominated him every week....?? He found that out.... got a bit pissed off....and complained and bitched to Jade about what she did to him..... Wait a sec... Isnt that the same thing what he's doing to her?!!

At the very start of BB3...Kate and Alex made it clear to each other that they had a 'thing' for one another....

Then suddenly she blocked him out for Spencer.... Alex got pissed (but kept it to himself) so he started having a go at her for no reason (ie. Juggling the oranges) Kate wasnt to pleased with Alex's reaction (obviously! who would be?!) so she started nominating him...(every week by the way!)

As soon as Spence got evicted.... the two started bonding again (which is nice to see) But then Alex found out she'd nominate him every week..... he got pissed off....and bitched about her to Jade.... He was complaining to Jade about what Kate did...but isnt that exactly what he's doing to Kate???!

At the start Kate hurt Alex's feelings by blocking him out..... He shouted at her...
Alex hurt Kate's feelings by shouting at her....so she nominated him every week... which later Alex found out....
Kate hurt Alex's feelings by nominating him.... so he bitched about her to Jade (and obviously Jade would agree because Jade cant stand Kate's attention from the lads!)

Can anyone see where this is going? Alex was and still is complaining about how 2-faced Kate is...but never reallised that he's doing the same thing?
One hurt another......so another nominate or bitch! So it wasnt entirely Kate's fault was it?

Oh and did anyone read about the Alex & Spencer bust up?? Alex complained that Kate was two-faced..... for christs sake shut your trap!

Dont get me wrong I do like Alex but he need to drop this whole situation...

By the way...are Alex and Kate friends now??? (lol) Anything interesting in the papers today?
”

No, that's NOT accurate.
Alex had not being doing the same as Kate.

Alex nominated Kate ONCE.

I think that if I was in the same position as Alex I'd have been annoyed. By playing follow the van with Alex, it gives the impression that Kate is quite fond of Alex. I think it's a bit of a crap thing to do to then nominate the guy.

You don't get that intimate with someone then nominate them do you, surely?
Scarptor
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Alrightmate


No, that's NOT accurate.
Alex had not being doing the same as Kate.

Alex nominated Kate ONCE.

I think that if I was in the same position as Alex I'd have been annoyed. By playing follow the van with Alex, it gives the impression that Kate is quite fond of Alex. I think it's a bit of a crap thing to do to then nominate the guy.

You don't get that intimate with someone then nominate them do you, surely?
”

Kate obviously did. Jade made the comment that she snogged him and nominated him the next, or perhaps it was the other way round. Didn't Alex told Davina he preferred Adele to Kate?
Devilot
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Scarptor


Didn't Alex told Davina he preferred Adele to Kate?
”

Like he had ANY choice in that!! This was just after being shown VT of Adele almost in tears, saying she fancied the arse off him!!

He said himself later it had all been blown up out of all proportion.
Pretzel
29-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Alrightmate


No, that's NOT accurate.
Alex had not being doing the same as Kate.

Alex nominated Kate ONCE.

I think that if I was in the same position as Alex I'd have been annoyed. By playing follow the van with Alex, it gives the impression that Kate is quite fond of Alex. I think it's a bit of a crap thing to do to then nominate the guy.

You don't get that intimate with someone then nominate them do you, surely?
”

(1st of all-my credentials- I liked Kate And Alex, was quite happy that she won)

Watching Kates little film tonight I was struck by how many times she mentioned her issues with him. It was only 15 minutes long at most and she managed three specific digs hardly mentioning anyone else, especially odd on a day that Jade was splashed over the papers saying how much she hated her. It made her seem a bit petty, but then it was probably due to poor editing.

I've already said that I like Kate and I'm glad she won but I do agree with Alrightmate about the intimacy. It made her seem hypocritical and not just about the nominations either. You can't say she was just being friendly or even that she was drunk(though she was!) after all she didn't behave that way with PJ and she liked him! This is the one aspect of her behaviour that puzzled me.

I doubt we'll ever know the truth but it would be nice to think that they could sit down and talk. I hope it doesn't degenerate into a press slanging match (copyrite jade).
Mart - Ma Rule
30-07-2002
Yeah but Alex knows that Kate wouldnt go for him. So i doubt he'd say he prefered Kate to Adele on national television and embarassed himself! lol

And I dont think Alex would even be interested in Adele if she didnt say she fancied him.... thats my opinion....so hopefully no Alex/Adele fans will snap at me!! lol
CPA
30-07-2002
I can never understand why after I or anyone else put something up on here, that has been SEEN on the TV .it is totaly dismissed by Jonny and Kate fans I warmed to alex when he was on the poor side.
I liked Jonny until his 2nd nomination and made such a fuss about " how dare anyone nominate him and bring his family down here again " I thought from then that he was too much up himself. I dont think alex has been a saint and has done stuff wrong too....... BUT he knew he had, like in the diary room saying he was beginning to p*** himself off.. he knew his faults and admitted them. Until kate nominated alex the same week as follow the van and her reasons for doing so, after I had watched them all week on E4 I liked her a lot too. Then we started to see Jonny and Kate talking nominations all the time and getting tactical. For example on the poor side by the boxes on the wall by the shower. I even emailed Channel 4 and told them what i thought. The following week there were no nominations because of the fuss about Jade. Non of the hm were angels. But just cos kate won there were a lot who didnt vote for her too. maybe we wernt impressed by the skimpy wear and flirting to avoid nominations.
so Jonny and Kate fans... I dont HATE either of them. I just didnt like the way they played the game. That doesnt make me evil nor twisted nor spitful. just a BB fan who had a different opinion and is entitled to express an opinion as you are......
Grahame
30-07-2002
Dont think there were any obvious matches now.
Surely in these circumstances the House becomes your whole world and you only have the people in it to choose from.
Kate/Alex - nice idea but not with a wider choice available and rather think the same applies to Alex/Adele and Kate/Spencer.
The chickens now.......
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