she's been saying that she could stand kate in the 9 weeks becuase she was 2 faced and nasty to her, then goes on to say that she really liked alex....funney cos as i remember it wasn't alex the one who constantly was digging at her..i can't believe i actually liked jade towards the end- no we can see all her niceness was truly fake and she is was really ***** who deserved all the stick the press gave her..

I agree with you I also liked Jade but I feel like I should learn that people don't change that easily. To be honest Im not a massive Kate fan but Jade needs to learn she should keep her mouth shut - she cant think that this carried on bitching is going to win her any popularity at the end of the day... can she??

Kate and Jade have a blazing row on Friday afternoon. On Saturday( in time for the next day's editions) Jade tells the papers what she regards as a few home truths about Kate. Why shouldn't she speak her mind only a matter of hours after the slanging match. As for the nonsense that Jade is jealous of Kate, I don't believe it for a minute? Why? Because Jade is supremely confident in her own body. Most women would be reluctant to show any flesh in public if they were only a couple of pounds over weight. By contrast Jade didn't give a damn whether she was stripping off completely or wandering around in her bikini, rolls of fat not withstanding. Jade and Kate remind me of Fergie and Diana, in that they both behaved badly, both behaved questionably at times with men but only one was viewed as a slut. Kate was happy to advise viewers to call Jade "Fat Pat" and throw pork scratchings but threw a hissy fit when Jade suggested that people were shouting that Kate had her derriere on display too much. I noticed that Kate's "spontaneous" roll on the floor with Jonny when she won proved Jade's point the very same day. Jade might have got physically intimate with PJ but she genuinely liked him. Kate was happy to allow Alex sexual intimacies (and allowing a man to "fiddle with your bits"under the bedclothes counts as intimacies in my book) whilst at the same time voting to get him out because she had issues with him. Jade has been rightly pointing out in the newspaper that she has had abuse heaped on her for behaviour no worse than that St Kate ever got up to, a lot of which she might only have been fully aware of post eviction. I also don't think Jade has any reason to be jealous of Kate now they have left the house. Jade was frightened of the reaction of a possibly hostile mob. Her blood must have run cold when she heard the shouts of get jade out when Adele was evicted. However she didn't hestitate to march up the stairs to face an unknown reception. Contrast her behaviour with Kate who was whimpering to Davina that she would not leave the house in case they booed her outside. Besides, if Jade can read what was originally said about HER in the media and laugh it off, she would probably wonder why anyone should now be upset about some of the mild (by contrast) comments she had made about Kate .

If anyone thinks that Jade was never jealous of Kate then they need their heads read...

The comments she'd make about her thinking she was prettier than Kate (quite a few times), her reaction to PJ saying he wished he had got to dance with Kate... And the simple fact that Kate got so much closer to Spencer, who Jade clearly had a massive crush on as well. And let's not forget Jade trying one last attempt to get into bed with Alex on the final night as well.

Kate and Jades relationship was always a bit rocky... I quite like Jade, but her incredibly self righteous attitude has always been off putting for me. She's no where near as honest and up front as she claims, and whilst that could be put down to her just being a bit deluded, I still think someone needs to tell her just how bad she was at times. Sorry Jade fans, but no one in that house came remotely close to making as many nasty comments as Jade did at times. Please don't try to tell me otherwise, as you will be wasting your time, as I will simply not read it.

It comes from a lack of education... Plenty of these people exist. They're not bad people, just incredibly ignorant at times.

And as for that argument the other day... the usual piss poor editing job... they missed out a full hour of it, where Kate really told some home truths about Jades behaviour in that house towards certain people (Sophie) and how she, as a grown adult should not need a psychotherapist to tell her that her behaviour was a disgrace. But Jade is the sweetest and most honest person on the face of the planet now, so let's forget all this. There has to be a pretty f'd up person in there to behave that way towards someone because they say "alright mate"... Even though some of us will remember her "I hate the way she throws herself at black men" comment. Again... It was the night Sandy announced he was leaving, when she was crying her eyes out whilst telling Jonny everything, in case anyone doesn't believe me (hopefully someone here saw it)

Certainly both brought up points that needed better answers than the ones they gave, and so both looked a little bad... But then, no one comes out looking too good in arguments. But Kate became quite popular for the fact she was one of the least bitchy people in the house. And if nominating Alex makes her two faced... well thats the game. She still had issues with him, and felt uncomfortable talking to him one to one that week, when Adele was still there, whilst having no problems with the others... When someone tells me who else she could have nominated, I'll start believing it.

The final week... Alex seperated himself from the others with Tim... What did he expect to happen?

rare affinity - ever heard of paragraphs?

I think Jades comments were more to do with what Alex told her the morning of argument with kate.
Alex told Jade that he was annoyed Kate nominated him whilst being so 'friendly'. Now I dont blame kate for that, Shes got to nominate someone, but I think Jade took alex'es comments to heart. what she told the sunday papers was basically what Alex had told her(jade). I dont think Jade is a nasty person, I just think shes easily influenced and probably thinks she is 'defending' Alex.
I'll never forget the grin Alex had whenhe was on the hammock in the garden, listening to Jade and kate having that big argument later on. Maybe he was touched that Jade was defending him?. maybe he should have had it out with Kate himself, instead of telling Jade, Knowing that Jade would eventually say something to Kate.

oh..what the hell..its all over now anyway.....we could argue the finer points for ever.....

roll on BB4!!!

Yes have to agree that Jade is definately a jealous little madam and a big part of her bullying to Sophie was also caused through the green eyed monster. She constantly picked faults on the looks of both Sophie and Kate the two nicest girls in there. Adele was another one were Sophie was concerned. Jade will start turning the GBP against her again if she dosn't shut her big chasm. As for it being put down to her age and upbringing I can't buy it. I never had a childhood as I had to help my mam was bullied at school and never had holidays abroad at the age of 7 like she did and I never acted the way she did at that age. People don't realise that Kate is only one yeay older than Jade and talk as if there is some huge age gap between them. I think the people who have gone all out for Jade has done her no favours as they have given her condolence for the vicious way she treat people and now she is on a high again it seems as if she is returning back to them through her needless attack on Kate.

Another thing, if she goes on once more about how she is upfront with people and tell's them to their faces, I will scream!

What a load of rubbish this is, most of the time it's only because she opens her gob and puts her foot in it and has to tell the other person! I hope she doesn't earn another penny but I know this won't happen.....she is vile....

The night before that when Jade was nagging Alex and Kate to tell her about follow the van (remember?) she told Kate then that she (Kate) is playing rude games with the boys that's why Kate stayed in the house. Who told Jade to say this? Surely not Alex?! Maybe Jade had this in her mind for a while she just was waiting for the right moment for her to say it?! As always, do NOT drag Alex into this, Jade has a mind of her own and knows how to use it.

here we go, say something bad about Alex and people jump on you like a ton of bricks.

If I want to drag Alex into this then I will say so.
Fine if you disagree, but please dont tell me what I can and cant say. Its my opinion that Alex wound up Jade.
if you disagree, fine, explain your reasons, but dont tell me what I can and cant post.

thank you.

I can imagine Jade's problem being how she perceives her popularity. In the house, when she thought someone was perhaps not too happy with her, she would change the way that she behaved towards them. This culminated, in the week of the mass nomination of Jade, in her decision to change as a person. She comes out of the house, basks in the the cheering fans and says "They love me". To someone as Jade, this is an open invitation to behave as she wishes, forget her desire to change ( why bother cos everyone loves me as I am) and return to her speaking before thinking habits. What she will omit to realise is that they are not endearing traits.

No, it's called setting the record straight. Just as you have an opinion, I also have an opinion on your opinion, it's called "debate". So what you have to say about what Jade told Kate that night when she was nagging Alex and Kate about "what is follow the van".

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Jade has always been jealous of Kate, that fact has been as clear as day throughout the series. I remember her running aroun the guys within the first week alone, demanding to know who they fancied and in particular if they fancied Kate. All the males in the BB house (and I wouldn't be surprised if Sandy did as well) fancied Kate at one point or the other. Jade, who is extremely perceptive, picked up on this and understandbly got jealous. Anyone else remember her telling Adele, "Kate's got funny teeth, she's not even pretty, she looks like an f*****g dog". My my!

The whole 'pretty' theme ran and ran, which is quite a shame cos' Jade is attractive in her own right. But someone hit it right on the head earlier, Kate got really close to Spencer, which Jade resented, and then PJ told anyone who would listen that Kate was gorgeous and blah blah blah, which Jade resented as well. Finally Alex , who had seemed immovable to kate's charms seemed to succumb within the last two weeks.

Me thinks Jade is (unwisely) letting loose some of her bottled up resentment although I have no idea where or what she thinks its going to get her.


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I think that Jade is a very mixed up young girl. She is obviously starved of love, and is deperately looking for reassurance that she is okay. Maybe somewhere along the line she has been bullied, or told that she is unattractive, but she desperately seems to want people to love her, and in her search for love is prepared to do whatever it takes. She will say what she thinks people will want to hear, and do what they want her to do. When she hits on what seems to be a winning formula (ie the bitching about Sophie) she takes it to the extreme. When talking about the attractiveness of someone else, she wants people to reassure her that she too is attractive.
I'm not surprised that Jade felt resentment towards Kate, look at the way PJ treated her. He gave her the come on for weeks, got a bit of action, then spurned her and to top it all off would keep saying how attractive Kate is. I think that would give my confidence a knock.

That in itself is not Kate's fault, however she did seem to know that the boys were attracted to her and used it to her full advantage, and then really stuck the knife into Jade by continuing to point out Jades size and calling her Fat Pat.
Please don't get me wrong I by saying this I am not saying that Kate was a complete and utter bitch, and Jade was an angel, just that I do feel that they both behaved badly to each other.

Why are people getting so uptight? Jade's just doing what she has always done - taking the opportunity to have a good old bitch about the hm's that pissed her off - and Kate has always pissed her off (for various reasons) big time. If you like someone (and I have always like Jade) then you like them despite their faults - you don't keep re-evaluating your opinion every time some new little titbit is revealed about them. I'll think you'll find that over time that a lot of hm's had 'issues' with Kate (let's face it she's the one hm we really know least about personality wise) but Jade just happens to be 'uncouth' enough to air them. I think the next few days are going to be quite interesting to watch. Most hms took the flack whilst still inside the house, but I have a feeling that Kate is going to get it now she's out. After all there's no one to hide behind now is there? - she's on her own now, and she's going to have to finally sink or swim on her own merits.

As to where it's going to get Jade. A lot of publicity and money I'd say, and we'll be well entertained on the way. Go girl - say it like you think it is (even if you do change your mind a nanosecond later).

Exactly. I don't blame Jade but I blame Alex. He is the biggest bitchiest SH1TE-STIRRER to ever enter BB3. He is a coward to boot and uses others to fight his battles. Rather than confront Kate himself, he tells Jade all about Kate and the Follow the Van stuff (something he had denied ever existed whenever Jade previously asked him about it) and calls Kate a conniving little BITCH then waits for the fireworks to start. He wanted them to argue so that they would go down in the eyes of the viewers. Why do you think he waited to the day BEFORE the evictions to share his info with Jade (who he even despises?). I suppose he had to make a second attempt to get the girls argiung, as his first attempt failed. You know, the time when Kate was up for eviction against PJ and Alex thought that was the perfect time to tell her EVERYTHING Jade had EVER said about her, and Spencer etc. He wanted Kate to confront Jade and then he hoped she would be evicted over PJ but luckily Jonny and PJ advised her not to. Well Kate won out in the end because she is the total package and it just goes to show that overweight jealous types (JADE), big foreheaded ugly jealous dwarf-like freaks (ADELE), bitter over-the-hill, boring, warped old goats (SANDY) and cowardly egotistical himbo bullies with the personality of a vegetable (ALEX) get nowhere in life. They end up bitter twisted and cursing those who are better than them and more popular and liked such as KATE JONNY ALISON. I still cannot get over Kate's little dig at Alex when she talked about men who were all fgood looks and no personality, then 2 seconds later she asked Alex if girls only went out with him because of his looks. What a great putdown from Kate! I really did LMAO when she said that and the thick Alex did not even get it. clueless to the end................

Anyone remember when Jade said to Kate that she "hated Alex EVEN MORE" after Spencer was evicted. And that was after he had got Jade over to the rich side and she was all over him. Jade upfront with people - not on your life.

Jealousy seems to be behind most of Jade's mouth. There was no-one in the house that actually fancied her and bonded with her (u cant really count the BJ from PJ!!). This i feel made her intensely dislike Kate for being more fanciable to the other males.

Remember when she called Kate a whore and a bitch and said she was dirty with the boys under the covers? That was BEFORE she knew what follow the van was. When Alex told her explicity what it was that very evening, Jade brazenly asked Alex to play it with her. Obviously desperate to try and do the same thing she was accusing Kate of.

Ahhh Mel, you DO surprise me........NOT!!!

You've never liked Alex have you MelBB1 - I think it's beginning to show in some unsubtle biased posts. I think Jade is the evil one but I'm not going to stoop to mass abuse to get my point across...........21 and still in nappies. The bitch....the filthy evil bitch, having ago at crooked toothed flirty actresses (KATE) and getting in cozy with sunken faced fake firemen (JONNY) but never talking to huge birmingham cinema workers (ALISON).

Fight fire with fire!

I personally think there was a genuine bond between Jade & Alex. They squabbled like brother and sister. The only problem he had with Jade, was he thought she'd nominated Adele, as soon as he was clear that she didn't, they were like best buddies again. As for Jade being jealous of Kate, possibly, but I think it had more to do with the fact of being the butt of Kate's jokes all the time. Just my take. Possibly, she's angry, that she and Alex were the only two real people in the final and lost out to the two who were hiding their true selves. Mind you I dont know if she's clever enough to figure that out lol(a wee joke!!)

The whole "fat pat" thing didn't start until about week 5 or 6, and Jade used it herself a few times...

They were snappy with each other the final few weeks, not just Kate towards Jade. I think that's a point that's been lost.

Jade was jealous of Kate from very early on... The first week infact. Who did she think she'd be up against that first week instead of Lynne? Kate. There was a dislike there from very early on... I remember her saying to Lee in week 1, about how she wasn't that pretty and she had ****ed up teeth. This was shortly after most of the guys admitted to fancying her the most of the girls. Spencer admitted it later as well. And I think Jade actually got on quite well with Lee until Sophie came.

She may well be honest with her feelings (although that's certainly debatable) but's it's where those feelings come from that always worried me. Some were just genuinely nasty, and very uncalled for, comments.

As for the other two hiding parts of themselves... We all have bad things about ourselves, and we all try to battle these things so that we can call ourselves better people. That's how life works. We've all got tempers... being able to control it is something that should be looked up to, in my opinion.

Is this the same Jade who pranced (perhaps not the right word) naked around the house and played chobble the sausage under PJ’s duvet?

Perhaps it’s not rude when practiced by a gobby simpleton?

is this the jealous jade that since leaving the house, is getting 900,000 for an interview with hello

got 500,000 from the new of the world/ the sun

offered 100,000 to advertise cider

offered 100,000 to do a documentry on the aussie bb

getting 60,000 for personal appearances

plus a few other offers all this totals up to near 2 million and she has not even been out the house a week yet

seems she has loads of reason to be jealous eh?

in the newspaper today jade says she said hi to kate only to be blanked

and as for giving her congratulations footage on channel 4 shows jade wrapping her arms around kate when she left the house.

seems kate is just a bit jealous as all the media attention etc is around jade.

If you were jade, i am sure you would be annoyed at kate if you think about it kate got all annoyed if jade said anything in a joking sense to her but kate seemed to think it was funny to call jade fat pat even said it would be funny if the crowd called jade fat pat and threw food at her

plus kate got very upset at being stripped of her clothes but every chance she got she tried to remove jades towel even detoweled jade in the diary room on the last night

and 3 times after they came out of the diary room that same night.