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BIG BROTHER PRODUCERS - an open letter regarding BB7
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Vite.dfeemtoon
21-01-2006
Please, the next Big Brother:

- let them discuss nominations and form alliances and get into bitchy groupings

- get some older people in. Looks really don't matter.

- don't have the first eviction until TWO weeks after they enter the house. We can never assess what people are like while they've got their "party faces" on for the first week.

- make the tasks intellectually challenging rather than something you'd expect five-year-olds to do.

- as in the American show in 2003 (?), bring in their exes and watch the fur fly.

- choose housemates for their political views rather than how big their tits are, or what their shagability factor is. There are enough "beautiful" people on TV. Give us some controversy!

- let someone other than Davina do the exit interview. She's become dull. Put Russell in her place, please.
Fort Boyard
21-01-2006
To me we just need a nice mixture of 'freaks' and normal people. I think BB5 got the balance just right.
Pinkvelvet
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by Vite.dfeemtoon:
“Please, the next Big Brother:

- let them discuss nominations and form alliances and get into bitchy groupings

- get some older people in. Looks really don't matter.

- don't have the first eviction until TWO weeks after they enter the house. We can never assess what people are like while they've got their "party faces" on for the first week.

- make the tasks intellectually challenging rather than something you'd expect five-year-olds to do.

- as in the American show in 2003 (?), bring in their exes and watch the fur fly.

- choose housemates for their political views rather than how big their tits are, or what their shagability factor is. There are enough "beautiful" people on TV. Give us some controversy!

- let someone other than Davina do the exit interview. She's become dull. Put Russell in her place, please.”

I watched that American Big Brother with the exes, where they allowed them to discuss nominations and form alliances, and it was superb viewing. It would be fantastic if BB did that this year.
vgcoop
21-01-2006
Seeing that BB gets their kicks out of depriving the nicotine addicts of their fags and the alkis of booze and caffeine addicys from their coffee why not occupy the entire house with people with a range of differing and possible more interesting addictions, and see what happens when their drug of chioce is removed from the shopping list

We could have the Coke head, good for late night ramblings and incessant sinus problems.
The Speed Freak again good for the late nights and emergency dentistry.
E Head for keeping the cameras on their toes and for OTT displays of affection
The Acid Head for profound statements combined with illogical freak outs
Of course no house would be complete without the Smack Head, shame BB is not at Xmas where the suggestion of cold turkey could be expolsive
Pot Head to argue the toss with Smack Head
and lastly
Solvent Boy for sporadic violence and graffitti

I predict a bloodbath.......
manleesam1
21-01-2006
I think and hope BB7 wil have a really different feel to it, and yes a few disabled people will be in there. Also as I am sure BB producers and researchers do read DS put any ideas down on hear for them to read. We could come up with a brilliant format between us.


Mandy
Lightweight
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by emily bishop:
“Some excellent points, there!

I am an average-looking, 38 year old gay man, with no real emotional angst. I do not conform to the gay man stereotype (like most). I do not go clubbing every other night, I do not take drugs, I do not cross dress, wear make-up or behave in a girly way. I am not a hairdresser or flight attendant and I do not want to be a star!

I am extrovert, get on with men and women equally and relate well to people of all ages from different backgrounds.

I have strong views, take an interest in the community, the country and in politics/current affairs.

I consider myself kind and a good listener; I cry when I hear sad songs and at sloppy movies. I get drunk and fall over sometimes. I sing (badly) at karaoke, and do rotten impressions of regional accents.

I am told that I can be sharp and witty.

I am also moody.

In other words, I am normal. But I do not think I would stand a chance of getting on BB, mainly because I have a disability. But reading this thread has convinced me to go along to the audition in March (health permitting)

I will let you know how I get on-will take my camera and put some pics up somewhere”

Good luck to you Emily
It sounds like you would make an excellent housemate!!
Gay men have been represented poorly by BB in the past.
Heterosexual men haven't fared as well also (Maxwell )!!
As for disability, don't get me started.
The Disability Discrimination Act is supposed to be in force but just try travelling around London on public transport, or any city to be honest.
The task excuse is lame.
I would like to see at least a deaf or blind housemate this year. Physical disabilities can be worked around, the program about a group of disabled people travelling across South America put paid to that.
Come on C4 and Endemol show a proper representation of the Great British Public.
Climbs down from soap-box...
Baileys
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by r.a.i.n.b.o.w
Dear Big Brother producers....

We hear tonight that you are now about to hold auditions for entrants to the next Big Brother series - BB7, 2006. Here are Digital Spy members' wishes for suitable entrants, tasks, etc. (and yes, we know you read these boards )


** PLEASE don't grab the first camera-hungry wannabees who 'seem' as though they will be good on camera. Let's have some people who aren't actually a member of Equity, and might just be an ordinary UK citizen who wants the BB experience.

** PLEASE let's have some 'normal' characters...look to BB1 & 2 & 3 for normal - yet quirky - *ordinary* people who can bring more to the house than screaming divas.

** PLEASE let's have some 'normal' bodied people in the house - you may think that we all want perfect boobs, bums, nudity, nortiness - but hey! It's much more FUN when the HMs ARE NOT exhibitionists, and have NORMAL bodies....give us some ORDINARY shaped/sized people! PLEASE! (I'd even go so far as wanting to put some plumper/skinnier/shorter/taller people in....they're more normal than "perfect"!)

** PLEASE don't put the series emphasis on sex! If it happens, it happens, but MANY of us watch it for the chats, laughs, conflicts, discussions, day-to-day stuff...and any sexual undertones are an added bonus, NOT the reason why we watch BB!

** PLEASE don't have too many teens/early 20s people. Likewise: PLEASE don't have too many older people. Give us all a good mix of ages. I'm 33 - so not OLD, and last year's BB (BB6) was mostly like watching a gaggling screeching gang of daft teenagers. PLEASE give us 12/15 HMs who span the ages from 20 through to 50+. Why do you think Celebrity BB works so well? It's not just the "celebrity" status that has ensured it's success....

**PLEASE don't give us too many 'oddities'....we don't need to watch cross-dressers, politicians, geeks, overtly camp guys, gangstas, over-opinionateds, transexuals, etc etc etc to get our kicks out of BB. Think back to BB1.....they were plucked from obscurity - AND PEOPLE STILL WATCHED!!! Why? Cos viewers could RELATE to them! Get that kind of mix now...I wonder what you would have? I'd be watching And just imagine if you threw an 'off-the-wall' member into the 'ordinary' mix...CBB3...Jackie anyone?
Yeah....brackie...


Over to you, my fellow Forum Mates


*claps and applaudes*

Oh yes, PLEASE take notice BB!


I'd audition .... I'm 50+ female, the body is past it but I don't need booze to liven me up and be happy/manic ... I just am,

I can talk into the small hours on a range of subjects from astronomy to snails .. I'm a good cook, but hate cleaning, I like rap/trance/techno music; I'm defo off the wall humour wise, and I stand my ground and speak my mind better better than Pete

I call myself a retired art student ... and I've no hang-ups about being nekkid.

I've not got extension to worry about (except on my hips) and my inch long nails are all my own, so they won't fall off during the show LOL

I look like a small cuddly librarian grandma that everyone tells their life story to at the bus-stop...... but I'm really a wicked, fun-loving b-tch, who loves practical jokes, zany conversation, weird news, tales of the unexpected and stings in the tail ...... and I'm not afraid of anyone or anything ..... so bring it on

........

Ok, I won't get in; but I can dream.

r.a.i.n.b.o.w
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by Bigus_Dikus:
“I think that is or should be catered for under "Normal people" - Disabled people are normal as well!

So a Normal person with a disablity should certainly not be excluded for ANY reason - If there is a problem, they should fit it!

”

Yes, agreed...I'm sorry if any offence was taken from my post - none was intended, I assure you
KrisHayward
21-01-2006
PERFECT - i think you should be on the selection panel
tomorrow
21-01-2006
In addition to the request to make it more like BB1, 2 and 3 .. what I think helped making those great BBs .... was

TASKS .... great tasks

The tasks and seeing the HMs participate in them are part and parcel of a good BB ... but nowadays, the HMs don't seem to try .... they don't bother

Shame that ...


Edit

Baileys: If I was on the selection panel - you're IN
Nailseagas
21-01-2006
The tasks have gone downhill. They used to last days but now seem to be over in the blink of an eye.

And RE: gays in the house... I don't care if everyone of the housemates is gay, just make them good to watch.
Brian - fantastic
Marco - Good God
Derek - very good
Craig - Good God part 2
Sooz
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by paulquinn1989:
“you said put nrmal people in they did in bb4 and lets not mention that”

there's a difference tho between normal and boring, they didnt get the right mix of housemates in bb4.
Sooz
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by Nailseagas:
“The tasks have gone downhill. They used to last days but now seem to be over in the blink of an eye.

And RE: gays in the house... I don't care if everyone of the housemates is gay, just make them good to watch.
Brian - fantastic
Marco - Good God
Derek - very good
Craig - Good God part 2 ”

I agree with you, Brian is probably still my favourite housemate from all BBs.
Jilly
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by Vite.dfeemtoon:
“Please, the next Big Brother:

- let them discuss nominations and form alliances and get into bitchy groupings

- get some older people in. Looks really don't matter.

- don't have the first eviction until TWO weeks after they enter the house. We can never assess what people are like while they've got their "party faces" on for the first week.

- make the tasks intellectually challenging rather than something you'd expect five-year-olds to do.

- as in the American show in 2003 (?), bring in their exes and watch the fur fly.

- choose housemates for their political views rather than how big their tits are, or what their shagability factor is. There are enough "beautiful" people on TV. Give us some controversy!

- let someone other than Davina do the exit interview. She's become dull. Put Russell in her place, please.”

Really good ideas, it amazes me that forum members can easily remedy where this show needs to change direction, it will be well worth sending this to the producers.
jojo the joyful
21-01-2006
I would like some 'ordinary' people too. They can be of any orientation, eccentric anything, but not too loud, fame grabbing lime lite huggers. They must not be boring though.

But above all please can we have a house with nice people in it this year. There were too many selfish manipulative trouble makers last year & it didn't make for pleasent viewing.

Thankyou
lumpbottom
21-01-2006
Agreed rainbow.

PS I think I 'know' you!
Koll
21-01-2006
I couldn't watch BB6 because it had a witch in it so i would suggest no more witches.
jojo the joyful
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by Koll:
“I couldn't watch BB6 because it had a witch in it so i would suggest no more witches.”

May I ask why? ( Just being nosey) & she left after a week.

Edit: Or did you mean Makosi ?
pjsteven
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by r.a.i.n.b.o.w:
“Dear Big Brother producers....

We hear tonight that you are now about to hold auditions for entrants to the next Big Brother series - BB7, 2006. Here are Digital Spy members' wishes for suitable entrants, tasks, etc. (and yes, we know you read these boards )


** PLEASE don't grab the first camera-hungry wannabees who 'seem' as though they will be good on camera. Let's have some people who aren't actually a member of Equity, and might just be an ordinary UK citizen who wants the BB experience.

** PLEASE let's have some 'normal' characters...look to BB1 & 2 & 3 for normal - yet quirky - *ordinary* people who can bring more to the house than screaming divas.

** PLEASE let's have some 'normal' bodied people in the house - you may think that we all want perfect boobs, bums, nudity, nortiness - but hey! It's much more FUN when the HMs ARE NOT exhibitionists, and have NORMAL bodies....give us some ORDINARY shaped/sized people! PLEASE! (I'd even go so far as wanting to put some plumper/skinnier/shorter/taller people in....they're more normal than "perfect"!)

** PLEASE don't put the series emphasis on sex! If it happens, it happens, but MANY of us watch it for the chats, laughs, conflicts, discussions, day-to-day stuff...and any sexual undertones are an added bonus, NOT the reason why we watch BB!

** PLEASE don't have too many teens/early 20s people. Likewise: PLEASE don't have too many older people. Give us all a good mix of ages. I'm 33 - so not OLD, and last year's BB (BB6) was mostly like watching a gaggling screeching gang of daft teenagers. PLEASE give us 12/15 HMs who span the ages from 20 through to 50+. Why do you think Celebrity BB works so well? It's not just the "celebrity" status that has ensured it's success....

**PLEASE don't give us too many 'oddities'....we don't need to watch cross-dressers, politicians, geeks, overtly camp guys, gangstas, over-opinionateds, transexuals, etc etc etc to get our kicks out of BB. Think back to BB1.....they were plucked from obscurity - AND PEOPLE STILL WATCHED!!! Why? Cos viewers could RELATE to them! Get that kind of mix now...I wonder what you would have? I'd be watching And just imagine if you threw an 'off-the-wall' member into the 'ordinary' mix...CBB3...Jackie anyone?
Yeah....brackie...


Over to you, my fellow Forum Mates ”

God, how dull!

And how condescending to describe people as oddities .

What a narrow little world you seem to want to see.
elena
21-01-2006
BB4 WOULD have worked, if a couple of the housemates had been willing to rock the boat and add a bit of excitement. If you dumped Steph/Scott/Cameron/Gos and added people with a little bit more about them - more exciteable and willing to have fun - you would've had a perfect series, like BB1 or BB2.

The problem was that there was a large contingent of people in BB4 who were prepared to treat the whole thing as a 10-week chatty love-in. The people who didn't perscribe to this (Anouska, Sissy, Federico) were kicked out by the ones who did pretty damn quickly. If there had been more of a balance of people who'd have been willing to have fun, you would have had much more interesting things going on and the three people I've mentioned above would probably have stayed longer.

They got the FORMULA right for BB4. They just messed up with the weighting.
alldaywatcher
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by pjsteven:
“God, how dull!”

Agreed, i think the BB producers are doing just fine.

We're watching Big Brother not an episode of Newsnight - the madder the better.
elena
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by alldaywatcher:
“Agreed, i think the BB producers are doing just fine.

We're watching Big Brother not an episode of Newsnight - the madder the better.”

I think there's a happy medium to be reached - a house full of extroverts and a house full of bores. I think the first 3 BBs did it perfectly, BB4 messed up because it tilted too far in the "boredom" scale.

BB5 and BB6 were full of action/arguments etc, but after two of them I think it'd be nice to drop the pace, just a little bit. BB5 worked because it was very original. BB6 tried to be BB5 and failed. Spectacularly.
darkest_dawn
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by Koll:
“I couldn't watch BB6 because it had a witch in it so i would suggest no more witches.”

I fail to see why someones religion should prevent them from appearing in a tv show, in the same manner that a persons sexuality, skin colour, age or physical make-up should prevent them.

Mary herself seemed quite odd, and was obviously playing up the witchcraft angle for the maximum contoversial effect. I'm sure that if an evangelist was in the house, they would have received the same reaction. My point being, that it was a personality flaw and nothing to do with their beliefs.

I'm a witch and I love the Simpsons, I wouldn't stop watching it because they have Christian characters - that would make me ignorant.

I'm in agreement with the majority of posts that we need to have quality contestants, not those that can shout/swear/drink/fight the most.
Hamlet77
21-01-2006
Where do I sign?

The thing is the OP's sugestion are without exception desperately needed to improve BB.

YES there are others, and many have suggested otherwise in the thread, I intend to offer my own at the end of this BUT the OP has undoubtedly identified the single biggest flaws with BB4, BB5 and the debacle that was BB6.

I would hope that the entire task department have been banned from ever working in tv again, a little imagination is what is needed, NOT the same task using a different dressing up box each week.

And try selecting a group of people who's entire life has NOT been dediccated to the moment they enter the house. PLEASE can we have some people, who have bungee jumped over the Zambezi or climbed to Base Camp on Everest or basically done anything that means they have life experience, that hopefully will mean they have developed skill and are adaptable to strange environments and are not scared to get their hands dirty.

IF they are all seventeen year old nubile bi sexuals with a naked fetish then all the better, however I fear C4 will be more interested in the latter than the former.
r.a.i.n.b.o.w
21-01-2006
Originally Posted by lumpbottom:
“Agreed rainbow.

PS I think I 'know' you!”


Oooh! From "over there"? Who are you "over there"?
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