what you say makes perfect logical sense but i am not sure why it is posted as a response to my post?

what adele has said makes no logical sense. i will repeat what i said earlier, she said she is not a very sexual person but that she has sex lots. this does not make sense.

Maybe .. just maybe ... someone's realised that sex = column inches?

BBG <realises that that was a REALLY GOOD double entendre!>

I didn't refer to you specifically. I'm talking about the general tone of the thread. You mentioned in an earlier post why did she have to put that down as the world doesn't care, and it's not a 'ladylike' thing to do. She has been asked about it. She was two faced in the house, and she played the game wrong but I think Adele is a candid person and she won't shy away from questions regarding her sexuality. And it still doesn't take away from my point - why is she being judged for something she put ON a form as opposed to what she did IN the house? If you want to talk about sanity a 'sane' person does not give or recieve BJ's on national TV (not judging it's an illustration of my point). A 'sane' person does not flirt with all the men in the house talk about threesomes and porn movies made with boyfriends. 'Sane' people do not get their kecks out in the shower.

Fair points, I think most of the girls behaved stupidly and I do think Adele didn't act worse than the others, most girls that I know of would never have behaved like that in front of millions.

And it still doesn't take away from my point - why is she being judged for something she put ON a form as opposed to what she did IN the house?

If any 'judging' is taking place it's because of the differences (real or perceived) between what she said on the form and what she said in the house. It's the fact that the two are contradictory that leads people to ask the subsequent questions such as 'which is the more accurate reflection of reality' and so on.

It's not what she said on the form that's interesting ... it's the fact that she seems maybe to be contradicting herself.

To me ... it just makes her a bit more interesting ... this debate doesn't affect my opinion of her behaviour/morality/honesty/whatever

BBG

Let me refresh your memory. Alex Jade and Adele in bath on the rich side. Adele tells Alex about how she really fancies him and he is so the kind of bloke she would go out with. This is the first time she has launched herself at Alex. Meanwhile Alex blushes. Jade agrees that Alex is fanciable. Sophie says nothing which prompts Alex to ask her why. She states that she prefers muscles. Alex jokes that he has muscles in his head etc. Adele reveals her sexuality to him. Later in the DR Alex reveals explains everything that happened (he is EXTREMELY drunk) and says that he is flattered that Jade and Adele said he was fanciable etc. He admits (for the first time ever) that he fancies Adele a bit but that he always seems to fancy girls who are out of his reach....... So to sum up ADELE MADE THE FIRST MOVE NOT ALEX !!!

Thx Mel Perhaps my original theory wasn't so far off the mark eh Observer?

Boutrous - fair point. I would imagine she is talking about penetrative sex. She strikes me as a very specific girl so I guess technically she would still be a virgin. But I don't know I'm just surmising.

As to refreshing memories - who started flirting with whom on the poor side before they got over to the rich side? Alex did. On numerous occasions, and it started from WK 2.There is no way she would have made that comment if he hadn't have made overtures towards her however slight. Call her many things but a fool she ain't. She was very perceptive in that house.

Adele DEFINITELY made the first move on the poor side but in more sublte ways before the full scale onslaught when they were in the bath on the rich side. As Alex said to Jonny the last week, he would never approach a girl first or do anything unless she let him know she fancied him first. Therefore he may have initially liked Adele (I suspect he secretly preferred Sophie though) but he did not do anything about it till she threw her short stocky frame at him on the rich side (in between bouts of gorging herself on food).

Forgot to add that Adele IS a fool actually or she would have played the game smart like Kate and won it. We all saw through her and she was booed accordingly. NOT VERY SMART.

I'm not talking about how she played the game. I'm talking about her being perceptive about people. If you've read any of my posts you will know that that's the one area where I think she wasn't smart at all. As to gorging herself on food - sounds like your beloved hyperactive buffoon Alison to me.

I see things differently with regards to who made the first move with those two. End result is he still fancied her 'slightly' despite her short stocky frame or whatever it is you called her. He obviously doesn't think like SOME people on this forum constantly banging on about their looks and where they are going in life.

No, your memory is screwed, he flirted with her BEFORE that talk in the bath, that's why she felt comfortable telling him what she thought about him. And I don't consider that flirting as she told him what she thought about his personnality, !! So to sum up, Adele did NOTstart flirting with Alex first, Alex came to her FIRST and made her at ease and comfortable enough to open up for him!! But then it doesn't matter who started it, the end result is that they felt a special bond between them, and I know that you still can't stand the fact that they still want to keep in touch til they are in their 50s and 60s (and beyond that).

I recall in week 2 when Alex was at one of his low points, he went to bed early while all the rest were outside. Next thing Adele comes in the room, strips down to her undies and hops in to the same bed and just lies there, then about 3 seconds later Alex casually gets out of bed and Adele wait a few seconds and then gets out and puts her clothes back on. Not a word was spoken and this little scene was not commented on by anyone.

So, prehaps this will settle who initiated first, definitley Adele got the message across first but then waited for a reciprication.

No, you did NOT see through her because she let YOU know through her!!! She knew that millions were watching, so she is not stupid enough to hide what she was doing to the millions of viewers! Yeah, she should have played 'fake' and 'acted' her true feeling towards those she disliked, like Kate and Jonny, that would made her stay longer in the house!

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duh, just realised that I am replying to 'MelBB1' a real time-waster in debates

My beloved hyperactive buffoon who got a brilliant eviction reception, who was mourned by most of the Hm's, who got cheers from the crowd when she danced with Liberty X (unlike Adele who had to copy the buffoon Alison but got booed mercilessly), Alison who all the Hm's even Jade now talk about in only good terms. I bet Adele wishes she had one tenth of Alison's personality. You claim Alison is a buffoon and that insult was also leveled at Kate and Jonny but funny how everyone loved them. Adele was as jealous of Alison's personality, friendships with other Hm's, popularity in the house, and beautiful smile, as Jade was jealous of Kate. Funny how Adele who always had something to slag off abot anyHm who had left, was strangely quiet whenever Alex started talking about how Alison was the first person in the house to snog him, and how she put him down etc. I think she was guilty because Alison did nothing to desrve Adele's hatred and Adele knows it. Adele soo wants to be like Alison hence she was the only one who copied Alison at the Liberty X performance but once again she was publicly rejected and reminded harshly that they hate her but love Alison. Put that in your pipe and set fire to it PLEASE.

It's OFFICIAL. Adele and Alex are FOOLS and so are their fans.

It's hard not to come to the conclusion that a lot of the interest surrounding Adele stems from her bi-sexuality. While male homosexuality is more accepted than it used to be there still seems to be a lot of (to be polite) perplexity (and a certain wayyhayy reaction) to gay/bi female sexuality - hence, two pages devoted, again, to Adele's perceived two-facedness which seems to be being linked, albeit subconsciously, to the fact that she 'swings both ways' sexually as well. I mean if a woman does that how can she be 'straight' about anything, seems to be the thinking.

I keep being reminded of Brian last year. As now, there was a similar debate/curiosity about his ambiguous answers re his sex life, i.e. scrutiny of the dates he gave about when he last had sex and if he was lying. It would be easy to conclude that gay people are just naturally deceitful but the more likely answer is that they are just acutely aware of the public’s probable reaction to their gayness. Hence, both Brian and Adele’s attempts to emphasise themselves as ‘not very sexual people’, fully knowing that although the gbp can accept ‘gay’ as an abstract category they balk at having to think about the specifics of gay sex. Given this it’s not really surprising to find many inconsistencies in their answers. Of course you could just call them liars or more sympathetically try to understand that they were just trying to defend themselves from too much distaste from the gbp, as well as mitigate any embarrassment to their families. Personally I would like to congratulate them for their courage and candour rather than submit them to prurient interest.

Its been interesting to listen to all the legalities of whether Adele is a virgin which just seems another pretext to establish whether Adele is a liar, again - or legally committing perjury since we seem to be taking her to a court of law. (Should we perhaps do the same for PJ to seek the veracity of HJ v. BJ.) Personally I have no problem with Adele's description of herself as a bi-sexual virgin – i.e. its possible to be very sexually active without penetration, as other posters have tried to point out. It’s also possible that Adele is alluding to the popular understanding of virgins (not having had sex with a man). As to the legalities of heavy petting, i.e. penetration by fingers, I find it funny to think how many women had a clue as to the state of their hymen (and quite frankly who cares) when they described themselves, or not, as a virgin. So why are we getting so pernickety and legalistic about Adele? It just seems that having exhausted all other reasons for why Adele is ‘a nasty piece of work’ people are just looking at new reasons to hate her by picking at the minutiae of her every comment about her sexuality. I just think Adele was too complex a housemate for the simplicity of some people’s thinking.

Thanks for some great postings above by the way. For the rest please feel free to delete or ignore as required.

Now off to hide from ballistic missives

As someone who is half-black myself I will look back at BB3 with regrets over Adele's behaviour. She is a disgrace to the black community and clearly has no pride in her blackness. The fact that she sought to get rid of the other black HM's (Lee and Alison) as a priority shows that she has an inferiority complex and hates her black skin. I hope that in future BB series they will not choose any blacks who have the sole premise of divide and conquer within the ethnic representation. Or maybe BB producers knew that Adele would pick off any fellow blacks and chose her for that reason? We will never know but I will always despise the fact that blacks always seem more interested in stopping other blacks from achieving success and would be far more happy and accepting to lose to any other race other than their own. SAD but TRUE.

So what if she got a brilliant reception? She still lost out to that so called 'fool' Alex in the first week didn't she? Where is this hatred that Adele exhibited to Alison? Oh yeah...she voted her out. And as for your assertion that she 'so wants to be like Alison' and citing her getting her on stage with Liberty X as an example, what about the buffoon trying to encroach on Kate's glory (BB winners week). Kate no doubt won't see it that way but others will. It's blatantly obvious she doesn't want to go back to the way life was before BB. If Adele cared to be like Alison she would have attempted to act that way - she couldn't and more importantly she didn't try. And why do all black people have to like one another? I didn't see Alison making a particular effort to bond with other black people in the house. She was more interested in Jonny and Kate.

Conor - I remember what you are talking about - he got into her bed.

Tess and Observer - spot on.

The only buffons around are you and Adele. The reason Adele cannot be like Alison however hard she tries is because she has NO charisma whatsoever. At least Kate, Alison etc made it onto the funniest moments awards with Kate winning for falling over. Where are Adele's funny moments? Name one interesting thing Adele ever said or did ? Let's face it Adele is a non-entity and a coward who used Jade for her own gain but it backfired spectacularly on her. If it came down to a contest between Adele and Alison the public would prefer Alison everytime. The fact that after all this time, Adele is still being booed in public says it all really. As Jonny and Pj said Adele brought nothing to the house at all and I agree with them. as for Alison losing to Alex, well we all know it was not only the closest ever contest in BB history but it was rigged in favour of Alex. Name one black HM that has EVER survived an eviction against a white person?

So, you want to call me a buffoon? What do you know about me apart from my views on the HM's? Nothing!

I'll tell you what I know about you. According to you, you're a gorgeous caramel skinned girl who can get anything in life, including any man she wants. You cast aspersions on other peoples intelligence because they disagree with you and question the validity of whether they have a degree or not. You back this up by telling us about your degree in fashion. Oh and how gorgeous you are on every other post. In short MelBB1, you're a repetitive big headed bore...quite like Jonny and Kate when you think about it.

You want to talk about race? No, I can't name you one black person who has survived an eviction against a white person. But I can tell you that just because you are of the same race as somebody you don't always have to get on. Case in point: Alison equally not making a particular effort to bond with either Adele or Lee. And what of your hatred towards Adele? You don't like her character so you attack her looks and dress sense and says she looks like a monkey. That is YOU attacking another black person. Why? Because you don't like her DESPITE you share the same race. Same as Adele voting out Alison.

Put THAT in your pipe and choke on it!

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Candice: Big up! Respect!

The game show is over but it sounds like that chip on your shoulder has got a very long shelf life.

I think its more of a chipstick