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How Kate won Big Brother
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GayGuy
31-07-2002
Why oh why did Kate Lawler win Big Brother 3? Because it was fixed that’s why! This sound like quite a sweeping statement, or I’m sure you think I’m an upset Alex fan (but I’m not as my favourite left very early on – Alison!), but there is a lot of evidence to back it up! (This is quite long, but I think quite an eye-opener!

1. From the very beginning, Channel 4 and Endemol have been stating that they would love a female winner of Big Brother 2002.

2. Channel 4 would want a photogenic winner of Big Brother as it is good advertising. (If this isn’t the case, then why so many more attractive people in Big Brother 3 when compared to Big Brother 1 & 2??). This would mean certain members of the house should be spared and must NOT leave the house for as long as possible. These are: Adele, Alex, Jonny, Kate, Spencer & Sophie.

3. The following should leave ASAP: Alison, Jade, Lee, Lynne, PJ, Sandy, Sunita & Tim

4. This is why the evicted people at the beginning were: Lynne then Alison. Sunita & Sandy walked. The Lee was evicted.

5. Then a big problem occurred – both Alex and Spencer were up for eviction. However, Alex more loved by the public and would create more interesting TV (can’t be denied when compared to the boring Spencer) as he has created more arguments and is very funny etc, which makes it more interesting to watch, so out went Spencer.

6. Another problem occurred, both Sophie and Jonny up for eviction. Jonny more loved by public and Sophie wasn’t interesting enough so out she went.

7. Then we had four people up for eviction; Adele, Jade, Jonny & Kate.
An easy decision you would think, but possible backlash if Jade left to a bad reception as she had been receiving a lot of bad press. Possible psychological damage and so possible suing of Channel 4 and Endemol. So began the “Hate Adele Campaign!” as she and Jade were responsible for most of the bitching in the house. Suddenly, huge Media turn around. Media now love Jade and hate Adele. Biased editing for Channel 4 daily highlights, which always shows Adele badly and Jade behaving. Jade had chat with Big Brother Psychologist and suddenly a born again tea total and apologising to everyone. Jade saved and Adele left.

8. Only two girls left – Jade and Kate. Kate must win and closest male rival is Alex. How do we stop Alex winning? A couple of weeks ago in came Tim. As soon as he arrived he started praising Alex immediately, complimenting him and having long talks. Alex felt he had found a friend and since Adele left Alex felt Tim had similar ideas as him and he trusted him. They had much in common. They spent most of their time together. It wasn’t long before Alex was dragged into Tim’s bitching sessions. Alex becomes distant from the rest of the group. Alex’s popularity goes down, whilst Kate’s and Jonny’s soars.

9 Next eviction posed a problem for Channel 4. With Jade receiving a nomination from every housemate the previous week, there was a high chance it would happen again, so to avoid the risk of her being evicted, Big Brother scrapped normal nominations and forced the group to try and decide between them which two should be up for eviction. Alex comes up with the best idea, that the two housemates who hadn’t yet been up for eviction should be up (Tim and Pj, no contest as Tim would leave!) Tim interrupts and suggests the idea of pulling straws. This way there is a lower chance of both him (who hadn’t finished ruining Alex) and Jade (who could ruin Channel 4) being up for eviction. It works as its PJ Vs Kate. Bye bye Pj!

10. Kate and Jonny’s constant joking around starts to seem like acting to many people on the inside and outside the house. People becoming bored with their repetitive jokes. Tim and Alex up for eviction. Tension in house becomes strained due to the “Divide” between Alex & Tim Vs Jade, Jonny & Kate. Jade’s good press continues and her popularity on the increase. All the pressure and frustrations erupt in an explosive argument between Alex and Jade and between Jade and Jonny. Kate comes out of whole evening unharmed. All others popularity drops. Kate now favourite to win, Jonny second, then Alex, then Jade and finally Tim.

11. Tim’s job done, Alex no longer in running for winning. Tim Vs Alex eviction, Tim leaves with over 80% of the vote.

12. We have our final four; 2 men and 2 women. Neither man can win and neither can Jade (see point 4 for reason)

13. Final weeks, without Tim around, Alex’s popularity on the increase rapidly, though Tim’s damage has been done. Alex still not favourite to win, but is expected to come second. Jonny’s popularity dropping rapidly due to his constant “stripping” off the girls. He is last on all popularity polls. Jade’s popularity rises rapidly too. Kate’s popularity is stable. She is still favourite to win

14. Alex is closest rival to Kate’s crown. He must not be in the final 2 as he may beat Kate. Then we have the final full night, with the Black-tie dinner. They must give speeches about their time in the house. Alex not keen on this and tries to avoid it. Big Brother knows Alex hasn’t had a very good time and know that he wouldn’t lie about it. This was a set-up and Alex’s very depressing but completely honest and heart-felt speech was the final nail in the coffin. Jade set to come 4th, Alex 3rd, Jonny 2nd and Kate 1st.

15. After the black-tie dinner there is music and dancing. Alex and Jade have been having fun most of the evening, constantly giggling and joking around! They dance seductively and are very funny. Alex is enjoying himself and is very happy! Jonny & Kate go OTT and are playing to the cameras. What is shown on Channel 4 highlights the next (and very crucial) night??? Jonny & Kate!! This is no surprise as we have not be allowed to see Jade & Alex having fun or being humorous as they are closet rivals to Kate. Only the limited number of E4 viewers saw the whole evening. We know what is going on, but Channel 4 viewers outnumber us.

16. Final eviction night, Devina seen by millions, wears a necklace that says, “YES” (Kate’s very annoying catchphrase) all night, even before the winner has been publicly announced. Kate has been declared the winner some time before this night. Jade comes 4th, Alex 3rd, Jonny 2nd and Kate 1st. The UK has its first female winner of Big Brother, but should she have been??

This is just what I have observed and felt throughout the series. Some people will say this is all hearsay and gossip, but you must admit that what I have said rings true and is so full of coincidences that some or all it must be true.

The truth is stranger that fiction after all!!!

(This will probably be deleted very quickly!)
cazkins
31-07-2002
As you say it does make some sense and I do think that the viewers were manipulated to some extent by c4 but some of your examples of how this was done are a little far fetched.

The big doubt in my eyes however is this: By the time the winner is announced c4 and Endemol have made their money. Why does it matter to them if the winner is male/female or photogenic?

So long as they have people in the final who are interesting or controversial enough to generate a large income from the phone photes it doesn't matter to them if the winner sinks from public awareness within weeks.

I didn't want Kate to win but I don't honestly believe the result was rigged from day 1. I do wonder if perhaps the final four were planned and we were manipulated into making sure they stayed until the end.
Caz
Boutros B Ghali
31-07-2002
The only thing that really still bugs me is the week that they cancelled nominations.

Jade was at the peak of her unpopularity ... media hysteria was rife ... and they changed the game entirely. I'd love to know exactly WHEN the decision to scrap nominations was made.

Not a Jade-bashing post ... God bless her!

I have to say though that I don't buy your overall 'Kate to Win' conspiracy theory ... altjhough I agree that there has been plenty of 'image management'

BBG
Pinelands
31-07-2002
I am amazed at howmuch I agree with all you wrote. It is a very thought out description of what happened and I can't see one thing in it that is false or misleading.
Well done!

So where does this leave us? I feel like a mug.

I will tell you why I voted for Kate.
I didn't have a clear winner in mind (probably Jade or Alex though) but I really didn't understand the whole Jonny hype and the only thing I did know was that I didnt' want him to win.

When they were down to the final 2 I panicked and voted for Kate 10 times (when I could get through) just so that Jonny wouldn't win.
So 10 of those 3 million votes were not for Kate to win but rather for Jonny NOT to win.

I wonder how many other people did the same thing.

Just for the record I regret my beer fueled voting of Kate.
Benson
31-07-2002
For me, this series has brought to light how easy it is for Endemol/CH4 to cheat and manipulate the majority of viewers.

I don't recall, in the first and second series, the same number of cries of "fix" and "manipulation". This has certainly left a nasty taste in the mouths of a lot of those that have access to E4. Vital moments that would have had a dramatic effect on the public's perception of certain housemates were omitted from the CH4 show.

It all bores down to Endemol/CH4 looking to create greater revenue and it was a clever gameplan to appeal to the female population that there has never been a female winner of BB. Personally I fail to see the what the big deal was, there had only been two series, the likelihood that both the winners would be the same sex is 50/50.
Devilot
31-07-2002
Thank you for writing that. I'm glad I took time out to read it, and I do agree with most of your points.

What I really dont want to see now is some idiot coming in and going:

'blah, Kate won, get over it, ner-ner-ner-ner-ner!!!!'

It really would lower the tone.
Dr Mick
31-07-2002
Here's me thinking it was because she got more votes than anyone else. Tccchhhhh.
Carlton
31-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson
I don't recall, in the first and second series, the same number of cries of "fix" and "manipulation". This has certainly left a nasty taste in the mouths of a lot of those that have access to E4. Vital moments that would have had a dramatic effect on the public's perception of certain housemates were omitted from the CH4 show.
”

To be fair we didn't have E4 for the first series so we don't know how things may have been manipulated. One thing that does stick in my mind from the first series was how astonished Claire was at the crowd booing Mel. I remember her saying something like ' I couldn't understand it - she is a really nice person'

My point? Maybe they do it every year. Maybe it's all part of the game. But i's over now and maybe they'l all go away soon.
gazza71
31-07-2002
"This is just what I have observed and felt throughout the series. Some people will say this is all hearsay and gossip, but you must admit that what I have said rings true and is so full of coincidences that some or all it must be true."

I don't think it's hearsay or gossip... I just think it's total nonsense. If they wanted Kate to win so badly they could have really done a number on certain people, and her funniest moments (e.g. impression of lynnes eviction speech) were completely left out.

Your post won't be deleted... It's too silly to even consider. It will make some people feel happy though
beermonster
31-07-2002
GayGuy your full of shite - again
They would/could not do this
stupid3001
31-07-2002
HELLO! why do u guys wonder if it was fixed or not? who cares all the housemates will make more than £70,000 in advertising, tv and radio deals! so please stop going on and on about how alex, jade or jonny were screwd out of the cash. Also kate got many votes due to the fact she was consistently funny during the entire show! as was jonny! even alex admitted that he was turning into a miserable b@st@rd! his friendships that he made were very poor choice if he was "playing the game"? going with aedel was a BIG mistake! tim was a BIG mistake and his biggest mistake of all was acting like a poof! he lost may female votes in the end due to his homosexual antics inside the house! e.g the school party where he wore a skirt and when sandy escaped and he was the only one shouting "BE CAREFUL SANDY BE CAREFUL" he was criticized alot by the media for this. jonny had the mum vote! nearly everyones mum voted fot jonny. he had that "aww hes a nice boy" remark wheneva he came onto the screen! jade ! now this is a different story all together! this was the only point in which the voting had been minipulated! even channel 4 have admitted that they only let her in because they thought someone with less intelligence would boost ratings! jade in the end got many of whats known as the common votes. there fore leaving the male, teenage, well off and father votes for kate! so in my view channel4 never manipulated the votes to get a female winner they did it to get more money!
Borath
31-07-2002
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“Originally posted by hyacinthbee
What I really dont want to see now is some idiot coming in and going:

'blah, Kate won, get over it, ner-ner-ner-ner-ner!!!!'

It really would lower the tone.
”

[SIZE=3]blah, Kate won, get over it, ner-ner-ner-ner-ner!!!![/SIZE]

*** ONLY KIDDING ***

A very good post and some nice points, but I still prefered Kate to win out of the final four (but not the entire house - I did like Alison, Sophie and Jonny at a time)!
GayGuy
31-07-2002
You said that they could've done a real number on some of the other housemates, if they really wanted Kate to win??

Well they did!!!! So many of Alex's funniest moments were compleatly missed out when shown on Channel4. Having E4 I saw so many!!!! He was hysterical!!!! You just need to read the thread called "Alex's best moments compliation" to see this! Anyone who watched only Channel4 (the majority) never saw how funny Alex really was. All they ever saw was when he was miserable. That I would classify as "doing a number" on him.

Oh and by the way, you said they missed out Kate's impression of Lynne right? Well maybe because it wasn't funny, or all she did was do impressions, so it became boring. I can't think of anything funny about Kate that didn't involve impressions or that stupid One legged dancing! Can you? Please tell me, so maybe I can say something positive about her, for once!!!!
GayGuy
31-07-2002
Fair points.

But I would hardly say that Alex acting Gay lost him votes. It didn't bother people last year (Brian and Josh!!!) That thing at the School-disco, he did it because he was sick of being asked and everyone thinking if he was Gay so he decided he would really confuse everyone and act it! And it was very funny!

The things that lost him votes was his poor choice of friends and his tendancy to moan (I agree with you on that!) but he wasn't always like that. He did have some VERY funny moments and he did enjoy parts of being in Big Brother. You only have to watch the final night with the Black-tie dinner to see that. But all Channel 4 really showed was KAte & Jonny (no surprises) going OTT. It was stupid and irritating!. But when he thought back, all he could think of was the bad things, and thats all most of us have been doing for all the people we didn't like, until someone reminds of their good times.

You're right all four housemates did appeal to different groups of people, but I just can't understand how a quite boring, repeative, wannabe actress and irritating person like Kate could be so popular?! I can understand her beating Jonny, Lee, Sophie, Tim, Lynne, and Spencer but where I get confused , is how it was possible that she could beat the far more intersting Alison, Alex, Adele,PJ & Jade

Someone help me out???? Please!!!!!!!!! I would love to know some nice things about her, as all I can see are the bads things, and I'm not a bad person!
chrissie
31-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by stupid3001
HELLO! why do u guys wonder if it was fixed or not? who cares all the housemates will make more than £70,000 in advertising, tv and radio deals! so please stop going on and on about how alex, jade or jonny were screwd out of the cash. Also kate got many votes due to the fact she was consistently funny during the entire show! as was jonny! even alex admitted that he was turning into a miserable b@st@rd! his friendships that he made were very poor choice if he was "playing the game"? going with aedel was a BIG mistake! tim was a BIG mistake and his biggest mistake of all was acting like a poof! he lost may female votes in the end due to his homosexual antics inside the house! e.g the school party where he wore a skirt and when sandy escaped and he was the only one shouting "BE CAREFUL SANDY BE CAREFUL" he was criticized alot by the media for this. jonny had the mum vote! nearly everyones mum voted fot jonny. he had that "aww hes a nice boy" remark wheneva he came onto the screen! jade ! now this is a different story all together! this was the only point in which the voting had been minipulated! even channel 4 have admitted that they only let her in because they thought someone with less intelligence would boost ratings! jade in the end got many of whats known as the common votes. there fore leaving the male, teenage, well off and father votes for kate! so in my view channel4 never manipulated the votes to get a female winner they did it to get more money! ”

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love your name - did you think of it all by yourself ?
eden2uk
31-07-2002
Dissagree with you Gay Guy. I loved Kate, Jonny and Alex and Kate won fair and square. You forget to mention how Alex told Jade out of spite about Follow the van, letting it fester in Jades warped mind until she started the bitter argument with Kate and let it all out. There are also a lot of people who watched E4 or internet feeds that saw the whole thing. I saw the good and the bad in most HMs and the only ones I disliked intensley were Adele, Sandy and Tim. I did eventually warm to Jade until now as she has gone back to her bullying way's now she has the backing of the papers. Whom may I add are doing this hate campaign against Kate because the public went against their choice and were not manipulated by them. The public have a mind of their own and if you look at the Sunday show before the final it was more against Kate and Jonny and more for Jade and Alex. The only manipulating done to sway the public was in the case of Jade which I think is scandolous. Frankly in my view it should of been Kate Alex Jonny and PJ in the final four. All the HMs had their faults and good points the public just made up their own mind who had the best whole package which was Kate.
observer
31-07-2002
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“Originally posted by eden2uk
letting it fester in Jades warped mind until she started the bitter argument with Kate and let it all out. ”

NO! She did NOT *start* the argument, it was Kate who started it when she heard the shouting over the wall. Kate had no business arguing with Jade about what a person shouted over the wall!
Juliette
31-07-2002
I was surprised at Davina's 'Yesss' necklace as it was so biased towards one competitor (Kate) - I thought she was more professional than that! I don't buy the conspiracy theory but agree that the Ch 4 editing (and the so-called psychologists' comments) was designed each day to show certain housemates in a good light and others in a bad light.

However, although Kate was no favourite of mine, I did feel sorry for her when she was on the poor side and I wish her all the best now that she has won. The fact that some people voted for her at the end solely to ensure that Jonny did not win is the only thing that makes me happy about the result. Apologies to all Jonny fans for that, but I didn't much like the person we saw in the House and just hope that he is a nicer guy in reality.
Candice
31-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by observer

NO! She did NOT *start* the argument, it was Kate who started it when she heard the shouting over the wall. Kate had no business arguing with Jade about what a person shouted over the wall!
”

Exactly! Why is Kate always innocent and everybody else culpable for arguments that took place? What she said to Jade was something to the effect of 'It's not me who walks around naked you always walk around in your bikini'. It was a dig at Jade to try and deflect from her manipulative ways but Jade told her the truth! She then tried to get the boys onside by going outside whining to Alex but she didn't get the answer she was looking for.

If nobody believes Kate is manipulative who used her body to get to the main prize why have the likes of PJ and Spencer changed their tune about her (albeit subtly and hiniting) whilst Jade and Alex are still maintaining what they knew all along about her?
Hil
31-07-2002
Quote "his biggest mistake of all was acting like a poof! he lost may female votes in the end due to his homosexual antics inside the house! e.g the school party where he wore a skirt and when sandy escaped and he was the only one shouting "BE CAREFUL SANDY BE CAREFUL" he was criticized alot by the media for this. "


Just goes to show that the media can be homophobic. I like Alex's sensitive side and thought him shouting be careful to Sandy was hilarious and cute.
chrissie
31-07-2002
excellent comments
beermonster
31-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Hil
"his biggest mistake of all was acting like a poof! he lost may female votes in the end due to his homosexual antics inside the house! e.g the school party where he wore a skirt and when sandy escaped and he was the only one shouting "BE CAREFUL SANDY BE CAREFUL" he was criticized alot by the media for this. "


”

ha ha, I have been saying that all along. Not exactly a man now is he? A [EDIT] that likes to moan & whinge at certain times of the month
Last edited by mromega : 31-07-2002 at 15:58
ukfox
31-07-2002
Kate was at the wrap party on Monday, you can see the pictures we took!

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AxeVictim
31-07-2002
I think this years evictions had more to do with betting scams than anything else.Look at all the previous evictions when bookies closed the betting bcos of the huge amounts of money being gambled.Right from the start pretty girl kate was one of the favs.Stopping the nominations that one week was a big letdown too
Boutros B Ghali
31-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by beermonster


ha ha, I have been saying that all along. Not exactly a man now is he? A puff that likes to moan & whinge at certain times of the month
”



When you're good you're good ... but this is a bit weak, isn't it?

And another thing ... please can you be consistent and decide between yourselves whether it's 'poof' or 'puff'

BBG
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