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Why DID Jonny miss the wrap party?
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Devilot
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by emma555
I read something interesting about Ms. Goody yesteday. It said she was suspended from school for ywo years for bullying another pupil. She obviously never learnt her lesson. Thank God she didn't win! ”

Two years?? I doubt it......more like two weeks, if it was a bad case...
emma555
01-08-2002
That's what it said in Now magazine anyway
faequeen
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by emma555
That's what it said in Now magazine anyway ”

It's rather a shame that things we do in the madness of youth - can never be forgiven. Please take into account her lack of a childhood, her lack of education and the home comforts so many of us never appreciated but took for granted. She is trying to better herself and I hope she makes it.
EddyBee
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by faequeen


It's rather a shame that things we do in the madness of youth - can never be forgiven. Please take into account her lack of a childhood, her lack of education and the home comforts so many of us never appreciated but took for granted. She is trying to better herself and I hope she makes it.
”

You have to draw the line somewhere. Many kids are bullies at school. There has to come a time when it is forgotten and forgiven - the point is that through education we stop them becomming adult bullies. I believe that this is the difference between Jade and Jonny. Jade stopped being a bully.

This is a difficult one for me as I suffered years of being bullied during my school days. I forgive those that bullied me but, if I am honest, I can never ever forget it. It was terrible.
Benson
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by emma555
If Joanne and Jonny break up then nothing is right with the world. ”

Well put yourself in her position. She's had to endure 9 weeks of seeing her fiance, the man she loves showing obsessive behaviour towards another woman, Kate.

He told Kate that he "fancied her like mad", he was overtly jealous of Kate getting close to Alex to the point where he would deliberately intervene making himself look like a jealous schoolboy. At one point when he and Jade were trying to get Kate and Alex out of plastic tube he blatantly grabbed her breast causing her to shout out and pull away. He ripped Kate's bikini off her and on another occasion, when Kate was so drunk she was virtually unconcious, he was whispering to her to strip off and get in the pool with him.

I wonder if you would be quite so forgiving, I know I wouldn't. I suspect that Jonny has a lot of grovelling to do. At one point Jonny said that prior to entering the house the team of people that prepare them said that there was a 90% chance that this would ruin his relationship with his fiance. I hope for his sake it was worth the risk.
stevenio
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


Well put yourself in her position. She's had to endure 9 weeks of seeing her fiance, the man she loves showing obsessive behaviour towards another woman, Kate.

He told Kate that he "fancied her like mad", he was overtly jealous of Kate getting close to Alex to the point where he would deliberately intervene making himself look like a jealous schoolboy. At one point when he and Jade were trying to get Kate and Alex out of plastic tube he blatantly grabbed her breast causing her to shout out and pull away. He ripped Kate's bikini off her and on another occasion, when Kate was so drunk she was virtually unconcious, he was whispering to her to strip off and get in the pool with him.

I wonder if you would be quite so forgiving, I know I wouldn't. I suspect that Jonny has a lot of grovelling to do. At one point Jonny said that prior to entering the house the team of people that prepare them said that there was a 90% chance that this would ruin his relationship with his fiance. I hope for his sake it was worth the risk.
”

Well, you'll never find out will you because his life isn't being televised.

Or haven't you noticed?
Benson
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by stevenio


Well, you'll never find out will you because his life isn't being televised.

Or haven't you noticed?
”

You'll probably be surprised to hear that I hope they stay together and are very happy.

Should this not be the case then I am sure that both you and I will get to hear about it.

You seem to think that TV is the only medium. I am sure the press would pay for a story should the unthinkable happen.
stevenio
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


You'll probably be surprised to hear that I hope they stay together and are very happy.

Should this not be the case then I am sure that both you and I will get to hear about it.

You seem to think that TV is the only medium. I am sure the press would pay for a story should the unthinkable happen.
”

Am I surprised? No, I would think that is a normal rational view from a human being. After all expecting someone's life to be runined shows complete disregard for others.

TV is not the only medium, but it is the only medium where the BB show happens.

What is irrational is that the posts still come thick and fast.
Life on the outside is a different prospect. Why hold a grudge against someone from the inside still. During the show, while you are part of the game and can vote, yes analyse, discuss, let it out. When the game is over what part do you play in order to warrant grudge's and character assinations?
stevenio
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson

Should this not be the case then I am sure that both you and I will get to hear about it.
”

For someone who doesn't even like Jonny why would you be interested in what happens to him?
Benson
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by stevenio


For someone who doesn't even like Jonny why would you be interested in what happens to him?
”

I am a member of this forum because I liked watching BB and am interested to hear other peoples view and debate with them. Jonny spent 9 weeks in the house and I believe he went on the show to raise his profile, either for acting purposes or his band and probably both. So of course I am curious to see how it all pans out for him, whether I like him or not is irrelevant.
stevenio
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


I am a member of this forum because I liked watching BB and am interested to hear other peoples view and debate with them. Jonny spent 9 weeks in the house and I believe he went on the show to raise his profile, either for acting purposes or his band and probably both. So of course I am curious to see how it all pans out for him, whether I like him or not is irrelevant.
”

And how it pans out may be interesting but ultimately irrelevant.

If he falls down the stairs and breaks his neck will you be on this forum telling us about how he deserved it for being a **** for 10 weeks? Or do you just begrudge him any kind of success and hapiness?
faequeen
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Eejay


You have to draw the line somewhere. Many kids are bullies at school. There has to come a time when it is forgotten and forgiven - the point is that through education we stop them becomming adult bullies. I believe that this is the difference between Jade and Jonny. Jade stopped being a bully.

This is a difficult one for me as I suffered years of being bullied during my school days. I forgive those that bullied me but, if I am honest, I can never ever forget it. It was terrible.
”

I can identify with you there as I came from a poor background and was mercilessly bullied for being 'different'. However, I too harbour no ill feelings towards my tormentors, it made me become a stronger person more determined to succeed in spite of it all. The school playground can be a horrible place, I'm glad you survived it and don't allow yourself to still be a victim.
Sending you my best vibrations (to make you warm)
Cybele
01-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Eejay


This is a difficult one for me as I suffered years of being bullied during my school days. I forgive those that bullied me but, if I am honest, I can never ever forget it. It was terrible.
”


Well done, Eejay, you're being remarkably objective about it considering what you've been through. My opinion of you has gone even higher than it was already
*BIG HUG*
emma555
02-08-2002
I really don't think Jade has tried to better herself. She is selling every sort if shite to the papers about how she wants to "chin Kate". Yeah, that really trying hard.

I don't give a toss what her family situation is like. Bullying is never right, and it can never be excused. Eejay, don't be so ridiculous. Jonny was not a bully in that house. The only bullies I saw when watching it were the ones on the rich side those 2 weeks that Sophie and Jonny were on the poor side. Jonny wasn't really bullied, just bitched at, but Sophie was, and Jade did not deserve to win. Even if she has turned over a new leaf, which I find hard to believe, that doesn't excuse her behaviour. There's a difference between speaking your mind, and being a complete and utter bitch. Tim and Adele were no better, but those two weeks Jade's clique was in control, and she definitely know it and used her power to her full potential. I remember when Sophie said that she'd be up that week, and Jade snapped at her "You don't know Sophie blah blah blah" it was just horrible.

I'm not saying Jade is evil or anything, but she can be a nasty person when she wants to be. She's a Gemini as well - might explain it.
Maxiii
02-08-2002
melBB1:
Any one that can state : " Alex is a loser" in any context needs
a 'jealousometer' reading check.
Love him or hate him, 'loser' you cannot apply to that guy.

ooops.. forgot to mention erm.. oh yeah.. Johnny.
emma555
02-08-2002
Who is that in response to?
Devilot
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
melBB1:
Any one that can state : " Alex is a loser" in any context needs
a 'jealousometer' reading check.
Love him or hate him, 'loser' you cannot apply to that guy.

ooops.. forgot to mention erm.. oh yeah.. Johnny.
”

Maxiii - MelBB1 has now been banned, therfore you have no need to reply to her any longer.
Maxiii
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by lobeserve


So how do you know Alex is liked then?
If even a small percentage of the population don't like him then I'm sure the rest of the public will dislike him.
Not sure what you mean by having the last laugh? seems a bit self opinionated.?
I think the real loser is Alex. He went on to BB, whinged for 10 weeks and made a complete arse of himself. He even admitted it in his 'heartfelt' speech.
”

We all know Alex is largely liked, because companies that have been in the money capitalising business for decades upon decades, are throwing money at him, so he can adorn their products, so I think we can safely assume that Alex is largely favoured, don't you mean you 'hope' the public will dislike him?

'Having the last laugh' means Alex is reaping rewards for being liked by the public, , he is getting big contract offers...Hello?...

Just make a statement that you hate the guy, and then you cannot be wrong, because it's your perspective.
Maxiii
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by hyacinthbee


Maxiii - MelBB1 has now been banned, therfore you have no need to reply to her any longer.
”

Thank you hyacinthbee, but I notice others are replying to MelBB1.... am I in any danger of some sort? Why was MelBB1 banned ... or do we get sent to the diary room for discussing this?

hyacinthbee, please tell me where you got your handle name from?
spearish
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by emma555
I read something interesting about Ms. Goody yesteday. It said she was suspended from school for ywo years for bullying another pupil. She obviously never learnt her lesson. Thank God she didn't win! ”

This story was carried in the Sun weeks ago ....the headmaster confirmed that it was rubbish .
Hunter
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


Jonny, Kate and Alison went into the BB house to launch a career in showbiz. Jonny's gang didn't win, the only winner of BB was Kate. Kate has not made history she has merely repeated it. There have been two winners before her and the fact that she is the first female UK winner is meaningless. The chances of the previous 2 winners being of the same sex were 50/50, if the first two winners had been female would there have been such a big fuss about 'being the first male winner of BB?' No. Also there has been no shortage of female winners in other countries so it's not such a big deal.

Kate, Alison and Jonny best friends? You have no idea, but if it makes you feel better then keep kidding yourself they are.

The real loser is Alex? I think Jonny, Alison and Kate would be more than happy to sacrifice their BB experience to be in the same position as Alex.

Alison, Kate and Jonny liked by the public? How do you know, a very small percentage of the population voted so you have no idea if they are liked. The person that is having the last laugh is Alex, and good luck to him.
”

Quite right. I'm in total agreement with you on this.
Hunter
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii


Thank you hyacinthbee, but I notice others are replying to MelBB1.... am I in any danger of some sort? Why was MelBB1 banned ... or do we get sent to the diary room for discussing this?

hyacinthbee, please tell me where you got your handle name from?
”

Yeah, why was MelBB1 banned and why was FatherJack banned. I have my own theories but the official story would be good to hear.
Dr Mick
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by emma555
I really don't think Jade has tried to better herself. She is selling every sort if shite to the papers about how she wants to "chin Kate". Yeah, that really trying hard. ”

Jade is an obnoxious person, she really is.

The trouble is that all the positive attention she is getting will send her a clear message that this kind of behaviour is acceptable, just as the endorsment she received from Adele caused her to carry on victimising Sophie until things got way out of hand.

If Jade had been evicted weeks ago to a torrent of boos maybe it would have done her better in the long run.
bystander
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by emma555
I really don't think Jade has tried to better herself. She is selling every sort if shite to the papers about how she wants to "chin Kate". Yeah, that really trying hard.

I don't give a toss what her family situation is like. Bullying is never right, and it can never be excused. Eejay, don't be so ridiculous. Jonny was not a bully in that house. The only bullies I saw when watching it were the ones on the rich side those 2 weeks that Sophie and Jonny were on the poor side. Jonny wasn't really bullied, just bitched at, but Sophie was, and Jade did not deserve to win. Even if she has turned over a new leaf, which I find hard to believe, that doesn't excuse her behaviour. There's a difference between speaking your mind, and being a complete and utter bitch. Tim and Adele were no better, but those two weeks Jade's clique was in control, and she definitely know it and used her power to her full potential. I remember when Sophie said that she'd be up that week, and Jade snapped at her "You don't know Sophie blah blah blah" it was just horrible.

I'm not saying Jade is evil or anything, but she can be a nasty person when she wants to be. She's a Gemini as well - might explain it.
”


I'm going to have to stop you there. Anyone who judges someones by their star sign has to be talking sh*te.
AHA
02-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Benson


Well put yourself in her position. She's had to endure 9 weeks of seeing her fiance, the man she loves showing obsessive behaviour towards another woman, Kate.

He told Kate that he "fancied her like mad", he was overtly jealous of Kate getting close to Alex to the point where he would deliberately intervene making himself look like a jealous schoolboy. At one point when he and Jade were trying to get Kate and Alex out of plastic tube he blatantly grabbed her breast causing her to shout out and pull away. He ripped Kate's bikini off her and on another occasion, when Kate was so drunk she was virtually unconcious, he was whispering to her to strip off and get in the pool with him.

I wonder if you would be quite so forgiving, I know I wouldn't. I suspect that Jonny has a lot of grovelling to do. At one point Jonny said that prior to entering the house the team of people that prepare them said that there was a 90% chance that this would ruin his relationship with his fiance. I hope for his sake it was worth the risk.
”

You forgot to mention, flashing at Kate, much to her distaste!! I hope they dont break up, but I think she's a very forgiving soul, especially when she and his family say that WAS the REAL Jonny in the house...poor girl!!
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