Jonny has set himself up for this fall. When it was just Kate and him left in the house, waiting for the result, his mind must have been in overdrive believing that fame beckoned, to the extent where I bet he could almost taste it.

What a difference a week makes. The 'professional contestant' can blame no one, but himself. He believed that BB was going to be a life changing experience for him and put his heart and soul into it. Thousands of people go through the same realisation, that their dreams are never going to come to fruition, but thousands of people don't get the same opportunity that he's had.

If he lets this ruin his life then he's a bigger fool than I thought.

*smile*..I was always pretty accurate with the old hammer!.....

The phrase " he who laughs last, laughs longest" springs to mind...Jonny had the last laugh in the house, when Alex's name was announced as 3rd place HM.....and I'm sure him and Joanne will be quietly chuckling long after Alex and Jade's novelty factor has worn off........

LOL the only euphoria to be had from the show was when Kate won if you were a Kate fan. You can try in vanity and emulate that if you want - knock yourself out!

LOL

Yeah. He still lost though didn't he. No prizes for coming second.

P.S. - Not an Alex fan so that line of reasoning is entirely lost on me

And what?

I don't see the point in bitching about the HM's now. I mean it's not as if you are still watching them or anything. Nothing's happening.

EXACTLY!!!.....my point precisely..........and as Jonny stated afterwards, he'd be happy enough if being on BB just meant that a few more peeps came along to his band's gigs....which I hope they do......as for the others.......like I said before, they're just showing themselves up to be exactly what they were denying in the house...I've a little more respect for Kate, she deserves a little attention as the winner, but as for Alex and Jade AND their parents......... .....

Fall?

Hello? There's no program. Jesus it's not as if you are still watching Jonny day in day out. It's not as if you get to see his face or anything.

which is the main difference between Jade(=Trash) and Kate! (=Class)

(it's Vogue btw..a typing error I'm sure, I make them all the time!! *grin*)

Wait, watch and learn!.....................at least his money will be made from talent, rather than gossip-mongering to the tabloids...or sitting round with greasy slime on your head!!.......

.....I'd buy the album...........and know plenty others who would too.....wonder if he'd offer Jade a job as a backing singer

Is that so oh wise Stevenio. Why are we all still here debating then???Hmmm???Why are you here?

The fact that the last four housemates are still in the public eye is the reason that people are still talking about them, hence my post. Why are you still visiting this forum if, for you, it's all over?

Yeah in the public eye, not in the BB house. There is a great distinction. Some are talking as if it is still happening.

For me.. right now I don't care about the housemates I'm more intruiged as to the weirdness of this BB forum and what it has turned into. It's like some kind of mass denial session. You would think by coming here that BB is still running from what some are saying. How long are people going to hold a grudge against Jonny for instance? It is very interesting.

I am glad you are finding it interesting, so am I. A lot of what the housemates do in the house affects their lives when they leave. That is why they are still being discussed because it is interesting to see how the various housemates use the BB experience to catapult themselves further into the public eye.

Yes but the distinction between your interest and my interest is that you still hold grudges against people. During the show I didn't like Sandy, Adele, Tim, or Lynne. Do I care about them now? No, I hope they all get on with their lives and are happy with them. I am not following their each and every move and analysing it. If something good happens to them then good on them, but I'm not going to sit here and go 'I reckon Adele's DJ career will fail' because I only got to see of her what I saw during the show. What happens outside I am completely in the dark about. She could become a Nun for all I know.

Seems you are just sitting here waiting for Jonny or Kate to slip up so you can say you were right about them all along. Do you really want people's lives to go wrong just so you can say you were right? Or like I say do you think the game is still running? It is not still running, the level of success in the HM's lives has nothing to do with the gameshow itself.

But don't forget that Kate is sitting on £70,000 hard cash without having to do or say anything else, whereas Jade will have to strike while the iron is hot and make some money while she can. It might be all over for her next week for all she knows.

Kate is not in that position so she has the luxury of being able to turn down an offer from The Sun. That doesn't make her worthy of respect or classy, it just means she's not short of money!

Grudge is the wrong word. If Jonny ends up regretting doing BB either because it makes him realise that he's not cut out for stardom or it puts a strain on his relationship then I would feel a little bit of sympathy for him. But, at the end of the day he's a grown man and I am sure he could handle it. There are plenty of people who are far less better off than him.

If Jonny is still appearing in the public eye (tv, press or radio etc.) then he is still open to debate as far as I am concerned. If you don't think so, fine, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I am not on this forum to justify to you or anyone else why I am here, end of discussion.

BTW Those who commend Kate for not 'selling out' might like to check out next weeks exclusive in OK MAGAZINE!

Doing an interview in Ok is quite different from trying to start or participating in a full scale bitchy war!

CPA, snap, I noticed that. Ungenuine peoples' smiles don't reach their eyes.

Ohhhhh, so its ok for Kate to do OK, but not Alex?

The difference being that neither Sandy, Adele, Tim or Lynne won otherwise you would be here questioning WHY????

Re- OK Magazine etc- It's not Selling Out!

For the record I can't see anything wrong Kate, Alex (and others) doing OK Magazine etc. They have entertained us for a few weeks and are perfectly entitled to make something for themselves.

I just think that Jonny was a bit daft complaining about not getting as lucrative a deal as the others because it seems acounterproductive thing to say in that he will probably NOT get offered anything now. I hope that I'm wrong though and he does get offered something. There is hope, even PJ made the front cover a couple of weeks ago

This Jonny-hating is getting quite ridiculous now.

The guy applied first and foremost because he was a fan of the show. He always intended to return to the Fire Service after the show was over, his best case scenario fame-wise was a few more people through the doors to see his family band ( which is little more than a hobby ), this he mentioned to PJ while in the house.

Jonny wanted to win the 70k, fair enough, not many people can turn their nose up at that kind of money. Apart from Tim, comprendez. The difference is that Jonny's tactic was to draw attention to himself, so he lived or died by his own actions. Other people in the house used different tactics, namely division, bitching, bullying, intimidation and all round bad feeling. Remember mid-way through the series there were serious concerns about Jades state of mind? Some of the HM's need to take a long hard look in the mirror regarding this, Jonny was not one of them.

So he pee'd in the shower. Big deal. When you see some of the things Jonny has no doubt seen ie. what damage fire can inflict on the human body, then the odd scrap of bacteria soon loses its importance. When confronted by a hectoring, prissy modduw he kept his cool and later, not once but twice, offered the olive branch only to be slapped in the face with it "I'll get back to you", "don't expect me to shake your hand" etc. WTF

Jonnys only real bad moment in the house was when he tried to get a pissed Kate ( and Jonny was equally drunk ) to go skinny-dipping. Again, big deal. Except no, this was blown out of all proportion. Also Jonny performing as Alexs puppet in the task was considered worse than the appalling treatment Jade and Adele dished out to Sophie. And who stood by Sophie when the rest of the house turned their backs, Kate and Jonny.

Fair enough, no-one HAS to like Jonny, I can see why he's not some peoples cup of tea, but for this blind obsessional hatred to be still going strong nearly a week after the show finished says more about some of you lot than about Jonny.

Time to start looking in the mirror folks.........

Ok.....so if Jonny always intended to return to the Fire Brigade, why is he complaining no deals have been offered to him?

Of course he wanted to be famous, he was on a 9 week long audition in the house. Are we forgetting he has an equity card?

Precisely. It is beyond me why some people are so blind to Jonny's ambitions and reasons for entering BB. Maybe they realise it too, but feel the need to stick up for him come what may.

In that awful "How not to get onto Big Brother" program one of the applicants was shown saying he wanted to up the profile of his band. The teeny bopper producers rejected him because of it saying it was a BAD thing. If Jonny's scheme was to get his band noticed then he also has done a BAD thing. Wannabes not allowed. Except they all got in somehow.