yep.sorry my mistake.
i mean daccs not dacs.
i mean daccs not dacs.
Dacs ??????
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Not so sure about the £1000 to remove. A DACS is used when there isn't enough capacity on the pole or DP (Distribution Point). If the u/g cable to pole has the capacity for say 20 lines but then a 21st customer wants a line, a DACS would be used. A lot of DP's now may have spare pairs (lines) as more & more people have gone over to their local cable company rendering their old line spare. If there are any spares on the DP then the DACS can be removed and a new pair allocated to that customer. That would NOT cost £1000. If there are no spare lines then the DP would req boosting with extra lines which would cost more. A new cable with say an extra 10 pairs could be run from the green cabinets you see knocking about to the DP but again, not £1000's worth of work. I do know that OFTEL have been on BT's case about DACS as a lot of customers (or should I say potential customers) are having probs getting broadband. I don't know if its started yet as I don't work on that side of things but a DACS removal scheme has been planned by BT so that in the future, broadband should be available to everybody who wants it.
Originally Posted by Cakeman:
“Not so sure about the £1000 to remove. A DACS is used when there isn't enough capacity on the pole or DP (Distribution Point). If the u/g cable to pole has the capacity for say 20 lines but then a 21st customer wants a line, a DACS would be used. A lot of DP's now may have spare pairs (lines) as more & more people have gone over to their local cable company rendering their old line spare. If there are any spares on the DP then the DACS can be removed and a new pair allocated to that customer. That would NOT cost £1000. If there are no spare lines then the DP would req boosting with extra lines which would cost more. A new cable with say an extra 10 pairs could be run from the green cabinets you see knocking about to the DP but again, not £1000's worth of work. ...”
“Not so sure about the £1000 to remove. A DACS is used when there isn't enough capacity on the pole or DP (Distribution Point). If the u/g cable to pole has the capacity for say 20 lines but then a 21st customer wants a line, a DACS would be used. A lot of DP's now may have spare pairs (lines) as more & more people have gone over to their local cable company rendering their old line spare. If there are any spares on the DP then the DACS can be removed and a new pair allocated to that customer. That would NOT cost £1000. If there are no spare lines then the DP would req boosting with extra lines which would cost more. A new cable with say an extra 10 pairs could be run from the green cabinets you see knocking about to the DP but again, not £1000's worth of work. ...”
The other way they do it is to run (aerial) cables from pole to pole. There are very few poles which join up to other poles, and, in many cases, I consider this to be an eyesore. There are some stretches where several individual cables are draped, all at slightly different heights and some where it looks as though you can almost reach up and touch them. They should all be tight, so as not to sag too much.
Surely if this had been any other structure, then planning regulations would have stopped it. But no, so long as the wire is the right height above the carriageway, then it doesn't appear to matter.
Originally Posted by DonnyDave:
“The other way they do it is to run (aerial) cables from pole to pole. There are very few poles which join up to other poles, and, in many cases, I consider this to be an eyesore. There are some stretches where several individual cables are draped, all at slightly different heights and some where it looks as though you can almost reach up and touch them. They should all be tight, so as not to sag too much.
Surely if this had been any other structure, then planning regulations would have stopped it. But no, so long as the wire is the right height above the carriageway, then it doesn't appear to matter.”
“The other way they do it is to run (aerial) cables from pole to pole. There are very few poles which join up to other poles, and, in many cases, I consider this to be an eyesore. There are some stretches where several individual cables are draped, all at slightly different heights and some where it looks as though you can almost reach up and touch them. They should all be tight, so as not to sag too much.
Surely if this had been any other structure, then planning regulations would have stopped it. But no, so long as the wire is the right height above the carriageway, then it doesn't appear to matter.”
When erecting aeriel cable there are lots of things that need to be taken into account ie. existing loading on pole, class of pole and also staying requirements as any pole with aeriel cable crossing the carriageway (if the span exceed 30 mtrs) must be fitted with a stay. This is not always possible, especially in urban areas so pulling in the cable through duct is the preferred method.
Your comment about there being very few poles being linked together is actually incorrect. There are hundreds and thousands of poles on routes that carry dropwires or cables from other poles, more so in rural areas.
As for the sagging cables, some of them are like washing lines! Aeriel cable must be 5.6 mtrs over any carriageway, field entrance, alleyway etc etc but only needs to be 3.0 mtrs high over non vehicular access eg. verges, hedges etc.
Aeriel cable has a supporting steel ruuning through it so if you cut a length in half, it would look like a figure of 8. Somethimes this steel can break leading to sag in the cable. Also if the attachment on the pole holding the cable has broke, the cable will sag like hell.
Originally Posted by Cakeman:
“As for the sagging cables, some of them are like washing lines! Aeriel cable must be 5.6 mtrs over any carriageway, field entrance, alleyway etc etc but only needs to be 3.0 mtrs high over non vehicular access eg. verges, hedges etc.”
“As for the sagging cables, some of them are like washing lines! Aeriel cable must be 5.6 mtrs over any carriageway, field entrance, alleyway etc etc but only needs to be 3.0 mtrs high over non vehicular access eg. verges, hedges etc.”
Does this mean that it must be at least 5.6m above the pathway when there is a driveway entrance leading to a residential property as vehicles are likely to go under it?
Originally Posted by DonnyDave:
“The other way they do it is to run (aerial) cables from pole to pole. There are very few poles which join up to other poles, and, in many cases, I consider this to be an eyesore. ...”
“The other way they do it is to run (aerial) cables from pole to pole. There are very few poles which join up to other poles, and, in many cases, I consider this to be an eyesore. ...”
Originally Posted by Cakeman:
“... Your comment about there being very few poles being linked together is actually incorrect. There are hundreds and thousands of poles on routes that carry dropwires or cables from other poles, more so in rural areas. ...”
“... Your comment about there being very few poles being linked together is actually incorrect. There are hundreds and thousands of poles on routes that carry dropwires or cables from other poles, more so in rural areas. ...”
Sorry, I didn't proof read! I meant to say There are very few poles which don't join up to other poles...
Its a bit of a funny one really. If it is a driveway leading to a single property then 3.7 mtrs is the required height. If it is a shared driveway then that is classed as vehicular access therefore the 5.9mtrs rule applies. When I say a shared driveway I don't mean a driveway that has no dividing line like a fence or something between two semi detached houses, but a driveway that leads to 2 or more properties where a removal lorry, dustbin wagon etc could access.
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