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New thread for the whole Alex/Kate/Spencer thing
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gazza71
03-08-2002
Front page of the Daily Express... Kate looking nice in a pale blue dress... "I do fancy Alex, but Spencer is the man for me"

Whatever that means. I presume it's just her saying "Yes I fancied Alex, but I fancied Spencer the most"

Am I wrong in thinking the Express is in some way related to OK Magazine? Not sure.

Apparently Jonny has sunken into deep depression since leaving the house. The Star is saying it's because he didn't win, but I've heard about a few of the ex housemates from all of the series having trouble getting to grips with the real world again, after it's all over with. It is the Star of course though. Maybe he's just missing Kate
Maxiii
03-08-2002
Gazza71,

cheers for that, just how nice does she look?
Did you see it online or have you got the paper to hand?
gazza71
03-08-2002
Online.

She looks very nice with her hair done like that, and the dress is lovely (goes with her eyes)

I didn't like her with the fringe though, I have to say. On Winners Week.
Maxiii
03-08-2002
when it was wrapped across her forehead! ha ha.

yeah you got the information about the express and OK mag from Kate this winners week, she told you.
gazza71
03-08-2002
Yeah, I heard that, but I always knew there was some kind of link between them, and the Star as well I believe. I've never quite know what it's all about though.
Maxiii
03-08-2002
"whatever that means..."

yeah, it means the media have honed the problem out here
amongst us lot, down to just the right degree, and have got a perfect picture of how to keep us all watching and buying.
bystander
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
Front page of the Daily Express... Kate looking nice in a pale blue dress... "I do fancy Alex, but Spencer is the man for me"

Whatever that means. I presume it's just her saying "Yes I fancied Alex, but I fancied Spencer the most"

Am I wrong in thinking the Express is in some way related to OK Magazine? Not sure.

Apparently Jonny has sunken into deep depression since leaving the house. The Star is saying it's because he didn't win, but I've heard about a few of the ex housemates from all of the series having trouble getting to grips with the real world again, after it's all over with. It is the Star of course though. Maybe he's just missing Kate
”

I've just watched the BB Winner's Week, the one with her dad and the car chase. Part of it was Kate doing her, "having a laugh and not understanding why the paparazzi want her" stuff, but the other part, when she said she only had a deal with OK magazine but not The Express, even though they have the same owners, sounded like it was now becoming purely business. If it has now become a matter of business then the sensible thing to do would be to tease the media with a Kate/Alex will they wont they relationship, whether it's true or not. I don't think there's as much media mileage in a Kate/Spencer relationship due to everyone being convinced that he's not that interested or even interesting come to that.
Maxiii
03-08-2002
getting a bit spooky on these deserted pages, we are going to start echoing in a minute,
here, do you remember someone earlier asking why Kate was going to a hotel tonight? - it was thong- well on the E4 winners thing they ended it with K saying she was going to a hotel,
and the film was stopped at the precise moment it came up to a hotel.
Anyone who videod that could work out which hotel because the place just before it had a massive sign on it : something 'Boy'
was the name of the place. The hotel looked familiar.
Pretzel
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
Yeah, I heard that, but I always knew there was some kind of link between them, and the Star as well I believe. I've never quite know what it's all about though. ”

They are all owned by the same person/company. Thats the newspapers magazine NOT Spencer Kate and Alex (though now you come to mention it....).

How can you fancy both? Not what you call fussy is she?!

Talk about hedging your bets to keep the interviews coming. Nice one Kate
gazza71
03-08-2002
Perhaps, but it could be as simple as papers being able to write things the way they want to, where as with OK magazine, you may be allowed to proof read it first, as part of the deal.

Certainly, with papers trying to start a war between Jade and Kate, you don't want anything taken out of context, and end up looking bad.

As for it being purely business... I think you can still be honest, whilst doing business. An Alex/Kate story would probably sell more than a Spencer/Kate one (I imagine some people are sick of seeing Spencer in magazines now), but what's the point if it's absolute trash? You'll only be found out, and look pathetic.
gazza71
03-08-2002
"How can you fancy both? Not what you call fussy is she?!"

Well, they're both quite good looking. I fancy just about every girl I know. It's crying shame that I'm an ugly bastard.
Maxiii
03-08-2002
bystander

yeah, the media are definitely calling all Alex for Kate supporters,
with that headline,

and tomorrow poor old Kate is going to have to say " I fancied Spencer, but Alex is the man for me"

-so all the Spencer for Kate supporters can sit up.

I think one of us supporters should get the first picture of Kate
and Alex ,out here together, and beat them at their own game.
Maxiii
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
"How can you fancy both? Not what you call fussy is she?!"

Well, they're both quite good looking. I fancy just about every girl I know. It's crying shame that I'm an ugly bastard.
”

Bet youre not.
bystander
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
bystander

yeah, the media are definitely calling all Alex for Kate supporters,
with that headline,

and tomorrow poor old Kate is going to have to say " I fancied Spencer, but Alex is the man for me"

-so all the Spencer for Kate supporters can sit up.

I think one of us supporters should get the first picture of Kate
and Alex ,out here together, and beat them at their own game.
”

We'll have to wait until Alex gets back from Germany, unless he sneaks back at night and sneaks in Kate's Window.
fruitbat
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
"How can you fancy both? Not what you call fussy is she?!"

Well, they're both quite good looking. I fancy just about every girl I know. It's crying shame that I'm an ugly bastard.
”

gazza71, aaah, thats the way to do it - the pity vote always goes down well Also humour is very very important in a man (just in case you really are ugly) .

I think both Spencer and Alex are attractive - but I think I am a bit more fussy than Kate I don't like that Blue guy.
Pretzel
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Maxiii
bystander

yeah, the media are definitely calling all Alex for Kate supporters,
with that headline,

and tomorrow poor old Kate is going to have to say " I fancied Spencer, but Alex is the man for me"

-so all the Spencer for Kate supporters can sit up.

I think one of us supporters should get the first picture of Kate
and Alex ,out here together, and beat them at their own game.
”

In truth I'm not a 'supporter' of either pairing really. I would like to think that everyone I enjoyed watching in the house ended up happy though (soppy I know!).

Kate has been quite canny, I think she DOES like Spencer and there is definately some press mileage in the story of their romance. (Though I am a bit sick of seeing him in OK! this would be something new). I imagine she will 'play down' the Alex flirtation in the interview (as he did).

See they've got us talking already
observer
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
Apparently Jonny has sunken into deep depression since leaving the house. The Star is saying it's because he didn't win, but I've heard about a few of the ex housemates from all of the series having trouble getting to grips with the real world again, after it's all over with. ”

Those ex housemates were not as desperate as Jonny to win. I think Jonny was the only HM from all BB series who was depressingly desperate to win, even Nasty Nick was not that desperate.
eden2uk
03-08-2002
Those ex housemates were not as desperate as Jonny to win. I think Jonny was the only HM from all BB series who was depressingly desperate to win, even Nasty Nick was not that desperate.Quote

Even if Jonny was desperate to win he never went out of his way to F*** peoples mind's up like Sandy, Adele and Tim contributing towards Alex's depression and fuelling his hate towards Jonny, Kate & Co. He was always genuinely nice towards others and never fuelled hate upon others. If you look at the situation Sophie was in he supported her, but never used his mutual dislike of Alex to turn her against him. He could of as she was vunerable, also his close friends PJ & Kate had a decent relationship with Alex when he allowed them to.
eden2uk
03-08-2002
When I said when he allowed them to I was referring to Alex not Jonny by the way. Another point it was Alex's friends that picked up on the point of Alex's dislike for Jonny to play the war games.
observer
03-08-2002
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“Originally posted by eden2uk
Even if Jonny was desperate to win he never went out of his way to F*** peoples mind's up like Sandy, Adele and Tim contributing towards Alex's depression and fuelling his hate towards Jonny, Kate & Co. He was always genuinely nice towards others and never fuelled hate upon others. If you look at the situation Sophie was in he supported her, but never used his mutual dislike of Alex to turn her against him. He could of as she was vunerable, also his close friends PJ & Kate had a decent relationship with Alex when he allowed them to. ”

It's your mind which is screwed up if you think that Sandy, Adele and Tim contributed towards Alex's depression and fuelling his hate towards Jonny, Kate & Co. Jonny and Kate did it themselves without anyone's help!! Sophie was up for eviction against HIM and so he has every reason to keep a low profile and appear to be mister 'nice' as he didn't want to fuel the public against him! Jonny did his share of manipulating Kate and PJ against Alex and who ever supported Alex, when that night Kate came to talk him about how Alex made up with her (oh and it was Adele who convinced Alex to make up with Kate and Jonny) he turned the discussion about HIM "me me me" and went on "I don't trust the guy", "it's us againt them"...but then your mind was too busy looking at Adele through the microscope to have notice what was going on in the house.
the scrutineer
03-08-2002
To be honest, I think Alex is very eager to put the whole BB experience behind him and that includes most of the HMs. His after dinner speech on the their last night was very telling, it was Alex being the most honest he's ever been in the house. The fact that he's taken himself off to Germany after doing only ONE t.v. appearance and apparently only one 'official' magazine interview says it all really. The whole experience shook him up and forced him to evaluate his psyche and like he said, somethings about himself he didn't like at all. He's gone off to be with the people who know and understand him best, (and lets be honest, no one got Alex in the house, not even Adele) to a place he loves and a job he's quite keen to get back to. The British media or for that matter the British public speculating about a romance between him and anybody is pointless.

He fancied Kate, so what? She's a good-looking girl and she was there for nine weeks when lets face it her competition wasn't exactly stiff. How does that translate into deeper feelings of undying love? Fancying and appreciating someone's attractiveness and your response to that is entirely different to seeing yourself with that person having a good time just being together. If Alex can distance himself from a romance with Adele of all people, why one earth people think he's even going to approach Kate again is beyond me. Sometimes people really do mean what they say and maybe other people should stop trying to read so much into what are pretty meaningless things.

The truth is good-looking people gravitate towards each other. What happens AFTER that gravitation is the real issue. For Kate and Spencer, they genuinely get along really well and if romance is on the cards well good for them. For Kate and Alex, alcohol was needed most of the time and frankly me thinks skincare and Japan are topics that aren't going to last them a lifetime of conversation.

the scrutineer
gazza71
03-08-2002
Jonny never really hurt anyone in that house, and tried his best to get along with others because that was the best thing to do in that situation (just because he wouldn't give them the time of day in the real world, doesn't mean he's not genuine)... Just a nice guy, who at times made it too obvious that it meant a lot to him to be there at the end. But he looked genuinely pleased for Kate when she was announced as the winner, and he predicted it would happen days before.

The truth is, Sandy created a very strong clique in there, and he did it by accusing Jonny of doing the same thing, when all Jonny was doing was getting on with it. I lost count of the number of times Sandy would say "Alex will probably go over there to the dark side with them" to Adele. Adele and Alex were so self righteous and such arrogant people at times, accusing others like PJ of trying to get into other peoples heads, that they couldn't even see it when it was being done to them. Jesus, the morning after Alisons eviction, when Alex had been having a good laugh with Jonny, PJ and Specer the night before, he actually felt like he needed to apologise to Sandy for having a laugh with the so called "enemy".

"Plan A didn't work, Plan B didn't work, so now it's time for Plan C"

Nobody ever seemed to question what Plan A and B were.

Living together in a house like that is about compromise... Certain people tried, and certain people never gave a damn, and were too obsessed with being true to themselves. If being true to yourself makes it harder for other people, then sorry - in my opinion - that's very selfish.
eden2uk
03-08-2002
I might as well say the same thing about you Observer, but you see I actually like Alex and would of liked him to come second. Yes Jonny said it was an us against them, but it was Sandy who started this and was the 1st to say this to Adele. Very clearly documented in the BB Magazine. Also Adele was apt to turn Jade against other HMs Sophie being a classic case. The only real feud there was was between Alex/Jonny and Alex/Kate both for different reasons.
observer
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by eden2uk
Yes Jonny said it was an us against them, but it was Sandy who started this and was the 1st to say this to Adele.
”

That does NOT excuse Jonny saying it when they were in the last few weeks, where things were getting REAL and the game getting at the end phase!!
Quote:
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Adele was apt to turn Jade against other HMs Sophie being a classic case.
”

You will have to tell us HOW Adele turned Jade against Sophie?!?! By laughing with her when Jade was bitching about Sophie?! And how Adele turned Jade against other HMs?!?! Give very specific examples that she (Adele) "instigated".
cath99
03-08-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
Front page of the Daily Express... Kate looking nice in a pale blue dress... "I do fancy Alex, but Spencer is the man for me"

”

I don't know how newspapers can get away with putting something in "quotation" marks when Kate claerly said no such thing!
I've read the article and she says that she did fancy Alex and Spencer and that she'd let to get together with Spanky for a coffee and a chat.....but nothing more. She said she doesn't want any romance at the moment.
The headline on the front page is so misleading!
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