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What did George say to Uri on BBBM
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Alrightmate
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bradley27:
“Actually you are totally wrong about it. Any political comments on broadcasts have to be balanced. George knows that and knew therefore would be censored. However by putting Uri on, if anything allowed George to be more political as it would balance.
However instead of that Galloway decided to be racist instead.”

Rubbish....Derek Laud from BB6 was allowed the airtime to spew out all sorts of political points of view, and they showed many of them on the highlight show with no alternative opinions provided to give them "balance".

John McCririck was also allowed a platform to spout his anti Left wing points of view.
vidalia
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by realscape:
“Jewish and Israeli are not the same thing but the difference is barely worth noting and for that reason they are easily interchangeable.

If Uri Geller is anti-Palestinian and part of what a lot of people refer to as the 'illuminati' Jewish control of the mass media (representing Jewish-Israeli interests), then Galloway would be more aware of that than most and completely unable to do or say anything about it on a live show. Since Geller is not the type of guest they would normally have on BBBM, it would suggest the whole thing was a total set up. Since Geller is also the beneficiary of the media by presenting him as a legitimate psychic rather than the fraud he actually is, then it would seem to bear credit to that argument too.”

Maybe not everyone knows about the Illuminati and Jewish control of the mass media that a lot of people refer to, why not explain it further for those who need more factual back up? And can you also follow this up with factual definitions of Judaism and Zionism so people can decide if they are in fact interchangable and the difference is barely worth noting. And if they are interchangeable, how does that explain another post that says Galloway is anti Israel but not anti-semitic? I'm confused.
oddsocks11
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bevheth:
“Maybe not everyone knows about the Illuminati and Jewish control of the mass media that a lot of people refer to, why not explain it further for those who need more factual back up? And can you also follow this up with factual definitions of Judaism and Zionism so people can decide if they are in fact interchangable and the difference is barely worth noting. And if they are interchangeable, how does that explain another post that says Galloway is anti Israel but not anti-semitic? I'm confused.”


sorry not my response but i thought id add my 2 cents before realscape responds, if he does.

www.illuminati-news.com/moriah.htm

If you wanna read do a simple google search or read that if you have got the time and inclination, not really the place to be discussing that imho.

To make it a bit simpler (this is a very simple explanation forgive me), anti - Israeli is different as Israel is *arguably* a country, where most anti Semitic behaviour is referring to a religion i.e Judaism
wotsnewpussycat
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bevheth:
“Maybe not everyone knows about the Illuminati and Jewish control of the mass media that a lot of people refer to, why not explain it further for those who need more factual back up? And can you also follow this up with factual definitions of Judaism and Zionism so people can decide if they are in fact interchangable and the difference is barely worth noting. And if they are interchangeable, how does that explain another post that says Galloway is anti Israel but not anti-semitic? I'm confused.”

Just to say I live in an area in London heavily populated by Hassidic Jews. They are extremely orthodox in their beliefs but completely reject the state of Israel. They are anti-Israeli but not anti-semitic. They are a good example pf why Judaism and Zionism are not interchangeable.
Asmo
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bevheth:
“Maybe not everyone knows about the Illuminati and Jewish control of the mass media that a lot of people refer to, why not explain it further for those who need more factual back up? And can you also follow this up with factual definitions of Judaism and Zionism so people can decide if they are in fact interchangable and the difference is barely worth noting. And if they are interchangeable, how does that explain another post that says Galloway is anti Israel but not anti-semitic? I'm confused.”

The poster said that 'Jewish' and 'Israeli' were interchangeable, not Zionism - which is a whole other can of worms.
vidalia
27-01-2006
Thansk oddsocks but I read in realscapes post that the mass media is controlled by the Illuminati and the Jews I just wanted a factual explanation or source for that as I didn't know about it and perhaps a website from Illuminati supporters is not the most objective place to go to get that information from. It just seems to be a very sweeping statement to make and as I don't always accept what I read on Digital Spy as factual I like to follow things up that I don't know about and perhaps delve a bit deeper.
oddsocks11
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bevheth:
“Thansk oddsocks but I read in realscapes post that the mass media is controlled by the Illuminati and the Jews I just wanted a factual explanation or source for that as I didn't know about it and perhaps a website from Illuminati supporters is not the most objective place to go to get that information from. It just seems to be a very sweeping statement to make and as I don't always accept what I read on Digital Spy as factual I like to follow things up that I don't know about and perhaps delve a bit deeper.”

Its okay, well the mass media is controlled no debate, it doesn't matter who they are what you want to call them, as Ian Blair claimed today the Media is institutionally racist ha the irony! im not going to debate this subject, as whether it's true or not there is very little any of us could do individually and im not suggesting anything else like we should, before my life goes all enemy of the state.

If you want any facts your going to have to do some research, the website i have linked isn't pro - Illuminati LOL you'd be hard struck to find legitimate pro - Illuminati websites, if i get what your trying to look for.

And i dont have the ability to try to explain to you the ins and outs like this, let alone at past 4 am, sorry im multitasking and feeling the pain.

Trust me, it's an okay read i havnt read it in donkeys years it was fairly long, but there are loads of other websites. Just cross check the details.

BUT I DO ADVISE YOU, SOMETIMES IGNORANCE IS BLISS and i do think this could be one of those occasions, it depends on what sort of a person you are, how you take things, beliefs etc just thought i would say it in case your young or... i dont know just in case.
bradley27
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Karl Marks:
“Actually I am not totally wrong about this. No political comment has to be balanced in this country, we are a democratic society. AFAIK, George was given assurances that he would be able to get his POV across to the viewers when he was in the house. Why would it or should it be censored? Uri didn't appear on that show for a politically balanced debate, the show belts along at 100mph, there's no time for that. He will have been invited for a provocative soundbite, and that's all, and it seems to have done the trick. If Galloway responded that he was only attacking him because he was Israeli, then he had every right to bring it up. How do we know what Uri's motivations were for agreeing to be on the show?”


Quite simply because its the law on broadcasting standards. Also Channel 4 couldnt promise GG that because it isnt allowed to. Anything political has to be balanced. Learn the law.
bradley27
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Smokin:
“"its only because your an israeli".

Racist or Xenophobic you decide, my point is that he shouldn't have said that, he could have called him a fraud, confidence trickster, loon spoon bender,popinjay, many Israelis share the same sort of ideals as George. Sometimes his mouth does him no favours, and hatred spews out and shows him for what he is. This is a man who thinks the killing of 11 Israeli atheletes was a mission for Palestinian "Freedom Fighters".”

very well said
bradley27
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Rubbish....Derek Laud from BB6 was allowed the airtime to spew out all sorts of political points of view, and they showed many of them on the highlight show with no alternative opinions provided to give them "balance".

John McCririck was also allowed a platform to spout his anti Left wing points of view.”

the difference being is they arent politicians, although with Derek I admit it is a very fine line. With an MP the broadcasters have to be totally strict about it. Ordinary people can be allowed to give their views, but if a politician uses it as a platform for his/her views it either has to be balanced or censored, its the law.
Woodstock
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by wotsnewpussycat:
“Just to say I live in an area in London heavily populated by Hassidic Jews. They are extremely orthodox in their beliefs but completely reject the state of Israel. They are anti-Israeli but not anti-semitic. They are a good example pf why Judaism and Zionism are not interchangeable. ”


Absoulutely. I think that the issue with Israel is its foreign policy. I know many Jews and Israeli Jews who are anti-Israel's foreign policy but not necessarily anti-having a Jewish state. The issues are with how this Jewish state was obtained and maintained and not with it's existence per se. Jewish, Israeli and Zionist are ABSOLUTELY NOT interchangeable and it's incredibly naive and misinformed to believe otherwise.

p.s. I think Uri Geller is a total space-cadet (no endemol pun intended!) and GG is a truely nasty piece of work.
Luso
27-01-2006
Second that post
Dibbledooski
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bradley27:
“I have kept on replaying it but I cant make it out. Russell certainly stepped in pretty quick.......

And hes something I never thought I'd say, didnt Peter Stringfellow make a lot of sense and put his point over very well without being rude...... what is happening to the world ”

HOw amusing

We have just watched BBBM and also kept replaying it- it seemed most important to us...couldnt hear it though

and also we said exactly the same about PS....almost word for word..
vidalia
27-01-2006
So if you equated being anti Israeli foreign policy with being anti Israel and anti Jewish could you not then say if you are against British foreign policy you are anti British and anti Church of England? Or is that different because the Church of England doesn't control the world media?
jericho_mpm2005
27-01-2006
uri has no reason to make comment about anything.

if he was not on there in the 1st place then that craptalk would not be there,

he is a serious milkman milking jacko and leeching on otherstars and he was crap in the jungle cant he just crawl under a hole......
duncann
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Rubbish....Derek Laud from BB6 was allowed the airtime to spew out all sorts of political points of view, and they showed many of them on the highlight show with no alternative opinions provided to give them "balance".

John McCririck was also allowed a platform to spout his anti Left wing points of view.”

The regulatory code was brought in during Thatcher's third term. I think what it covers is party politicians having to be balanced within the same programme, rather then being balanced out across the week or year or month etc. which is how it was before. Derek L and John McC are not professional politicians representing a party of trade union or running for office under the terms of the regulatory code, even if they are both highly political.

I am pretty sure the casting of Uri Geller was deliberately provocative to Galloway. Everything about Galloway's time in Big Brother has been engineered by producers to push him to the limits and provoke him into extreme behaviour. I'm not complaining about that just pointing it out. He's been treated like that, Traci has been virtually edited out. Chantelle has been promoted. The show is very manipulative. This is apparently to produce more exciting TV.
Woodstock
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bevheth:
“So if you equated being anti Israeli foreign policy with being anti Israel and anti Jewish could you not then say if you are against British foreign policy you are anti British and anti Church of England? Or is that different because the Church of England doesn't control the world media?”


Is this directed at me???

If so - You've misunderstood...I'm saying that anti-Israel, anti-Israel's foreign policy and anti-semitic are NOT the same thing. Therefore yes, it is quite possible to be anti-British Foreign policy but not anti-Britain and definitely NOT anti-Church of England. It's ridiculous to equate the three.
vidalia
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Woodstock:
“Is this directed at me???

If so - You've misunderstood...I'm saying that anti-Israel, anti-Israel's foreign policy and anti-semitic are NOT the same thing. Therefore yes, it is quite possible to be anti-British Foreign policy but not anti-Britain and definitely NOT anti-Church of England. It's ridiculous to equate the three.”

No, it absolutely wasn't directed at you at all. It was in reference to comments made much earlier back in the thread but using your analogy to do so. Sorry.
Woodstock
27-01-2006
D'oh! Sorry right back atcha! Just me getting defensive and on my soapbox!
Muzski
27-01-2006
For what it's worth I think GG and Uri were very well matched - both airheads.
Chantal
27-01-2006
Since when was standing up for Palestinians who are illegally occupied by Israel - in violation of scores and scores of UN Resolutions - racist??

George Galloway may be many things you don't like (i.e. anti-Blair and anti-bush), but he is NOT racist.
realscape
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bradley27:
“Quite simply because its the law on broadcasting standards. Also Channel 4 couldnt promise GG that because it isnt allowed to. Anything political has to be balanced. Learn the law.”

Sorry, I went to bed and didn't read some replies that were directed to me.

Firstly, to find out more about the 'illuminati' google that word and you should find out plenty of information. Basically it refers to the global control of the world media (and thereby public opinion and international trade and politics etc).

Uri Geller guested alongside Galloway was not presented as being for political reasons. Because the gen public would perceive Uri as a spoon bending magician, not a politician, there would be no requirement to prove political balance. However, the fact tha Uri is pro-Israeli Jewish is clearly the reason he was pitted against Galloway who is a pro-Palestinian supporter of Muslims. Uri is also considered to be part of the Illuminati - a fairly valid notion since he is a fraud who only perpetuates his image as psychic via the use of the media. And Galloway knew that which is probably what he was saying when he said 'because you're Israeli' or whatever he did say.

So then it makes you wonder exactly how far the people in control do go, if stupid things like CBB and BBBM are part of such organisation.
stactack
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by bradley27:
“Well doesnt that say it all about George? He has continually shown he was racist when on the show (best example, when he said he allowed Dennis get away with things that he wouldnt if he was white.... why? Everyone wants to be treated equal, not different), but that is just blatant. Luckily for him most couldnt hear it tonight, I know I couldnt.

You can throw out those kind of comments just because someone disagrees with you.”

You seem to be completely ignorant of the difference between Zionism and Judaism.
stactack
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by realscape:
“Sorry, I went to bed and didn't read some replies that were directed to me.

Firstly, to find out more about the 'illuminati' google that word and you should find out plenty of information. Basically it refers to the global control of the world media (and thereby public opinion and international trade and politics etc).

Uri Geller guested alongside Galloway was not presented as being for political reasons. Because the gen public would perceive Uri as a spoon bending magician, not a politician, there would be no requirement to prove political balance. However, the fact tha Uri is pro-Israeli Jewish is clearly the reason he was pitted against Galloway who is a pro-Palestinian supporter of Muslims. Uri is also considered to be part of the Illuminati - a fairly valid notion since he is a fraud who only perpetuates his image as psychic via the use of the media. And Galloway knew that which is probably what he was saying when he said 'because you're Israeli' or whatever he did say.

So then it makes you wonder exactly how far the people in control do go, if stupid things like CBB and BBBM are part of such organisation.”

Be careful though, there is a lot of chaff among the wheat when it comes to "secret rulers of the world". Before you start researching the Illuminati for long you'll run into David Icke and his 12 foot Lizards.
zimmy
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Karl Marks:
“Stringfellow was on the line to talk about his mate Pete Burns, RB deftly steered him onto George Galloway. No character reference for Pete, then. You have to admire Endermold dontcha, they cover every angle, nothing is left to chance.

BTW, why are the same people in that audience each night, they seem to have a roster of people that appear every other night. Oh I get, they're all the production crew.”

Agreed. Have you seen that fat 'White Van' chav on there, who's always having a pop at Pete? You can't miss him, he's wearing this ridiculous blonde nylon wig. It's possibly the worst 'syrup' I've ever seen in my life.

Watch out for him on BBBM tonight, he's bound to be on.
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