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Why is Petes behaviour acceptable?
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Mummyd
27-01-2006
I just dont get it - from watching BBBM, reading posts and discussions, Pete seems to be a favourite amongst most. Why is such a heartless bully liked by so many? For example, the way he bullied Traci that night for the 'sake of it' IMO was disgusting yet this seems to escape people's minds. I keep coming across people who want him to win. If this kind of behaviour is accepted then no wonder we live in a world like it is
edson
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Mummyd:
“I just dont get it - from watching BBBM, reading posts and discussions, Pete seems to be a favourite amongst most. Why is such a heartless bully liked by so many? For example, the way he bullied Traci that night for the 'sake of it' IMO was disgusting yet this seems to escape people's minds. I keep coming across people who want him to win. If this kind of behaviour is accepted then no wonder we live in a world like it is”

Not to mention his bare faced lie about Maggot's cigarettes.

He sits there and calls Preston and Chantelle all the names under the sun for lying to win a task and get them all food, but he sees nothing wrong with stealing and lying himself.

Sad, bitter little hypocrite
40-40J's
27-01-2006
His behaviour is certainly not acceptable to me, which is why I hope he does not win CBB - this would be like condoning such behaviour.
Coconut06
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Mummyd:
“I just dont get it - from watching BBBM, reading posts and discussions, Pete seems to be a favourite amongst most. Why is such a heartless bully liked by so many? For example, the way he bullied Traci that night for the 'sake of it' IMO was disgusting yet this seems to escape people's minds. I keep coming across people who want him to win. If this kind of behaviour is accepted then no wonder we live in a world like it is”


Because it is reality TV.
edson
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“His behaviour is certainly not acceptable to me, which is why I hope he does not win CBB - this would be like condoning such behaviour.”


Ahhh, but people will claim his vile, bitter, bile-filled comments and his hypocrisiy are 'entertainment', so he should win.

He won't though.
40-40J's
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by edson:
“Not to mention his bare faced lie about Maggot's cigarettes.

He sits there and calls Preston and Chantelle all the names under the sun for lying to win a task and get them all food, but he sees nothing wrong with stealing and lying himself.

Sad, bitter little hypocrite”

Not to mention the secret task he had yesturday, where he had to say something nice to each of the HM's in turn so as he could get some ciggies - surely everything he said to them was a lie because he has spent the last 3 weeks slagging everyone off.
Gadget
27-01-2006
It is not acceptable. He is able to get away with it purely because the others in the house conform (in some way) to the rules of a civilised society.

If he tried the same routine amongst less polite company, he'd quickly find out just how unacceptable it is......and also how expensive dental reconstruction can be.
Coconut06
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“Not to mention the secret task he had yesturday, where he had to say something nice to each of the HM's in turn so as he could get some ciggies - surely everything he said to them was a lie because he has spent the last 3 weeks slagging everyone off.”


Do you not understand the meaning behind that task? it was a see if Pete could be nice


I don't think you know what good TV is. I suppose you loved BB4 the boring one.
Mummyd
27-01-2006
How can you call Pete bullying Traci 'for the sake of it' entertaining??

Words just escape me
Gadget
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Coconut06:
“I don't think you know what good TV is. I suppose you loved BB4 the boring one.”

I find it deeply worrying that some people place more importance on being entertained by a TV show than they do in people having good manners.

*shrug* just goes to show why this country is going to the dogs.
Steven G
27-01-2006
Its not acceptable but you have to think of what makes people talk and what made the show more interesting. Pete did that.
bradley27
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Mummyd:
“I just dont get it - from watching BBBM, reading posts and discussions, Pete seems to be a favourite amongst most. Why is such a heartless bully liked by so many? For example, the way he bullied Traci that night for the 'sake of it' IMO was disgusting yet this seems to escape people's minds. I keep coming across people who want him to win. If this kind of behaviour is accepted then no wonder we live in a world like it is”

I think he is the worst by far. Not excusing the likes of George and Dennis, but when you lose your control you can behave badly, but Pete does it for the "fun" of it. Hes in total control and that makes it ten times worse.
40-40J's
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Coconut06:
“Do you not understand the meaning behind that task? it was a see if Pete could be nice


I don't think you know what good TV is. I suppose you loved BB4 the boring one.”

I understood the task perfectly, thank you.

Pete did not seem to understand the meaning of the word 'task' when Preston and Chantelle were in the secret room and were not to tell what their mission was - and they thought they were trying to win the whole group £6 a head for shopping - unlike Pete, whose sole aim is get HIMSELF ciggies

Good T.V? Each to their own I suppose. BTW, I did not favour any BB because I do actually have a life and BB is not something I hold dear to my heart forever and ever after the programme has finished - I watch it and then I move on - you should try it
The Finisher
27-01-2006
I understand your point. It may not be acceptable and it's not something i would tolerate in the outside world, but in the context of a 'dog eat dog' gameshow it does make good entertainment. Within the confines of the BB house i think pretty well anything goes.
Everything they do and say is in order to draw attention to themselves and i believe they are all fair game. Imo you've got to have a fairly big ego to want to be on the show in the first place. If you put yourself in the spotlight for your own personal gain then you have to accept that you may be given a hard time as part of someone elses gameplan. I'm voting for Pete because he has been responsible for most of the entertaining moments of BB.
Gadget
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by The Finisher:
“Within the confines of the BB house i think pretty well anything goes.”

I couldn't disagree more.

It's a prime-time show which I would imagine has a huge audience amongst impressionable teens. Rewarding rude, confrontational behaviour is sending out a message that it's not only acceptable, but that it can actually help you get ahead in life.

He should have been booted out at the first possible opportunity.
nellyvamplew
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by edson:
“Not to mention his bare faced lie about Maggot's cigarettes.

He sits there and calls Preston and Chantelle all the names under the sun for lying to win a task and get them all food, but he sees nothing wrong with stealing and lying himself.

Sad, bitter little hypocrite”

And his bare faced lies about not being able to walk in flat shoes, when a few days later he was perfectly able to run around the garden without a trace of difficulty.
metafis
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Gadget:
“I couldn't disagree more.

It's a prime-time show which I would imagine has a huge audience amongst impressionable teens. Rewarding rude, confrontational behaviour is sending out a message that it's not only acceptable, but that it can actually help you get ahead in life.

He should have been booted out at the first possible opportunity.”

Yes, agreed, we all throw our hands up in despair at the attitudes of some youngsters and how violent crime has risen amongst them etc etc, but then some support this sort of attitude on tv as entertainment.
no wonder some kids today have such appaling attitudes to others when individuals like Pete Burns are feted and supported for their behaviour.
Banana Dynamite
27-01-2006
basically this creature is a horrible individual and is well known in his native city for being like that. HE is the most two faced person I have seen in a long time, hope he goes back to obscurity when he leaves the house, which is hopefully first tonight.
Wickedkitten
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Gadget:
“I couldn't disagree more.

It's a prime-time show which I would imagine has a huge audience amongst impressionable teens. Rewarding rude, confrontational behaviour is sending out a message that it's not only acceptable, but that it can actually help you get ahead in life.

He should have been booted out at the first possible opportunity.”

Well hell, when are they cancelling Eastenders and most of the other prime time shows that "impressionable teens" may end up watching?
newkid30
27-01-2006
It is not acceptable.
I find it worrying that people say, well it's OK because it's Pete. Standards, and behaviour should not depend on who you are?

I know I'll get slated for this but I don't care, basic respect for other people should be a given.

It worries me the way society is going to evolve the more I see of this show, as if people see it on screen, I fear they will think it's funny and entertaining to act the same way.
catspaw
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by The Finisher:
“I understand your point. It may not be acceptable and it's not something i would tolerate in the outside world, but in the context of a 'dog eat dog' gameshow it does make good entertainment. Within the confines of the BB house i think pretty well anything goes.
Everything they do and say is in order to draw attention to themselves and i believe they are all fair game. Imo you've got to have a fairly big ego to want to be on the show in the first place. If you put yourself in the spotlight for your own personal gain then you have to accept that you may be given a hard time as part of someone elses gameplan. I'm voting for Pete because he has been responsible for most of the entertaining moments of BB.”

You've taken the words right out of my mouth! As someone else said higher up the thread, it is reality TV. And it's reality in inverted commas; it's not the really real world where people can come and go as they please, see who they want to see and not those they don't.

Pete may or may not be playing to the cameras when he goes off on one. Equally the person on the receiving end may or may not choose to retaliate/ignore or whatever due to those same cameras. It is a game.

If Pete were like that in the outside world - and I've heard tell that he's a pretty tricky customer - then I'm sure he regularly gets back what he dishes out. In that house it's clearly a different story, presumably because everyone's taking very special care of their image.

Pete has entertained me, and I actually think there's something more to him than spite and vitriol. If there isn't, then he's got me thinking there is.....so he's won me over either way. (Did I hear someone whisper 'gullible'?? )
BigMomma
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“It is not acceptable.
I find it worrying that people say, well it's OK because it's Pete. Standards, and behaviour should not depend on who you are?

I know I'll get slated for this but I don't care, basic respect for other people should be a given.

It worries me the way society is going to evolve the more I see of this show, as if people see it on screen, I fear they will think it's funny and entertaining to act the same way.”

Exactly right. Being nasty and vindictive for sport or to impress equally nasty people isnt nor ever should be acceptable.
susie-4964
27-01-2006
Pete's basically a freak, under the guise of just being himself. I nearly died when George said he would meet him outside the house, somehow I don't think the two of them frequent quite the same places!! Pete's behaviour is appalling, but because he's a freak, it doesn't seem to matter quite so much as, for example, GG's rudeness, because no-one takes Pete seriously anyway - he's a pantomime character. I certainly wouldn't want him to win, but as the evil witch of CBB, he's done a pretty good job in entertainment terms.
Gadget
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“I know I'll get slated for this but I don't care, basic respect for other people should be a given.”

You should be applauded for saying it. Lack of respect for others is the one thing that is undermining our entire society.

It is the fundamental building block of most crime - if you respected others, you would not rob them, assault them or damage their property.

The media as a whole must bear some blame for glamourising people with a "I don't give a ****" attitude.
threecheeses
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by The Finisher:
“I understand your point. It may not be acceptable and it's not something i would tolerate in the outside world, but in the context of a 'dog eat dog' gameshow it does make good entertainment. Within the confines of the BB house i think pretty well anything goes.
Everything they do and say is in order to draw attention to themselves and i believe they are all fair game. Imo you've got to have a fairly big ego to want to be on the show in the first place. If you put yourself in the spotlight for your own personal gain then you have to accept that you may be given a hard time as part of someone elses gameplan. I'm voting for Pete because he has been responsible for most of the entertaining moments of BB.”

Have to agree with most of this.

It is a game show and people really need to detach themselves from it a bit more.

It's no worse then most soaps and dramas shown at prime time.

In the real world he wouldn't last 5 minutes with his attitude.

The Traci attack was cringeworthy but the rest of his 'act' has been entertaining.

Don't care who wins now Dennis has gone.
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