Maggot has a problem with him and Preston definately said he was 'uncomfortable' with some of the things he says and does.

It was only MB who stood up to him when the 'task' arguement broke out and Pete waited until MB had left the room before retaliating - Pete's a coward of the worst kind and that's not entertaining.

But that's sort of the point I'm trying to make. Even if BB said, 'ok, no holds barred, folks, do what you will', it would never happen. These people - even Pete - aren't actually anarchical or murderous and, even if they were, they're hardly likely to do anything with a fair proportion of the world and his mother watching. It's essentially 'safe' and comparatively civilised and controlled.

I don't like to think that I'm a small-minded person and, just because I like a bit of verbal, doesn't mean to say I'd like to see murder or rape going on in front of my eyes. I'd like to think I'm a big-minded individual and accept that it takes all types to make a world - again, Pete included. If you just put nicey nicey types in there, it would be even more unreal than it already is.

I think that this is how Traci deals with someone like Pete.

When he viciously attacked her she complimented him and didn't allow him to get to her. Her strategy appears to work for her, but we don't know what she is really thinking.

I doubt that she will find it funny that Pete deliberately gave her a fur collar to wear in the movie task, lied to her that it was fake, and bragged to Dennis about it.

There is always a big following for the housemates who seek to entertain at any cost...he used Traci as a platform to demonstrate his superior wit and it worked...she didnt nominate him...i think that says everything...tonight the final will climax in a shock Pete victory and the kids will be left crying...we can do it if we vote hard enough...

but thats what makes Pete soooooo entertaining!!

horrid horrid man, who thinks he can do & say as he pleases. yes he may be like that in REALITY, but that does not mean we should accept, and i really hope he does not win!

Agree. Comparing him to Oscar Wilde was unforgiveable - there is no comparison.

So Pete verbally abusing fellow housemates in a controlled environment is ok because you "like a bit of verbal". What about the people who "like a bit of violence/torture/child molestation? As long as it's 'controlled' it's ok

I too am not a small minded person but you take in to account that there are people in the real world who do like to see some really strange stuff - the internet plays a very big part in this - these environments are 'controlled' but the stuff that goes on in them, I personally would not like to see/hear and I prefer not to hear Pete verbally abuse another person for the sake of entertainment - he should find another way to entertain (his face is a great source of entertainment for many people!!)

I didn't actually say that, and I think you know I didn't.

Earth to person..er where is the comparison??

Just curious..what would you like BB to be?......a 3 week tea party of etiquette?

Where is your evidence for that? I haven't heard anybody else articulate those beliefs, and I live here. So, come on, put up or shut up.

You are in for one very sore finger then from hitting that redial button over and over and over again, ask yourself, is Pete really worth the pain?

Hello!? It's meant to be entertaining for God's sake, there's no use trying to take the moral high ground, if they were all goody two shoes it wouldn't make good TV.

Pete to win!!!

Same here.

He makes my blood boil every time I think of him and the way he acts...can you imagine a woman getting away with that behaviour? They'd be booed out of the house the first time they were up for eviction

But don't you find the incessant bitchfest is *uninteresting* after a while? I know Pete's contribution gets tongues wagging and people have been entertained by watching The Big Fights, but a lot of his 'tude just seems so...... predictable.

I've come to expect some devastingly witty bitch session from him and, in a way, it's kinda boring. If he spent his last few hours in the house making everyone tea, asking them for fashion advice and giving people back rubs *that* might be interesting! I'm not saying I want or expect him to behave that way, btw. Pete is Pete, and nothing can change that.

I dunno, I think I've missed the boat with the Pete thing, and maybe I've missed some of the highlights that made his behaviour clearer. Maybe I'm getting him completely wrong. Maybe he isn't meant to justify his behaviour to us or anyone. It is, after all, "just a TV show". But that explanation is wholly unsatisfactory, to be honest. If this is, indeed, a 'reality' program and not just car-crash television?

I would like to believe he is this multifaceted, misunderstood person who just happens to have been edited to buggery for our pleasure, but I'm not convinced. Far from demonstrating intelligence with his witty reposts, he often comes across as one of the most ignorant of the group.

So is his behaviour acceptable? Is it meant to be? Is it even entertainment? Darned if I know!

Perhaps George has hidden needs - he enjoyed the cat thing altogether too much IMO. Wonder if Cynthia Payne's still around?

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Sorry.

Brain not in gear.

Mr Blonde, I beg you: don t spend your birthday money on such a hopeless cause. Don t do it!

I think you read over your post again, you'll see that you did 'actually' say that but I'll concede that you didn't mean it to be offensive


Person to earth Abuse is abuse whether you try to control the amount or not. I think if DS had a poll so as people could say what age bracket they were in, we would probably see that those who find this kind of thing entertaining are far younger than those who do not.

What I would like to see in BB (both celeb and non-celeb), is more mind testing and physical tasks so as the housemates do not get bored and feel that the only way to entertain the children who are tuning in is to abuse fellow housemates. Also, allow them to bring in many ciggies as they wish so as this does not become an issue and they can get on with the job of doing tasks.

The lack of tasks and the fact that the ones they do set can be quite boring, says more about the producers of BB than the contestants who apply to go in - these people wouldn't stand a chance in I'm a Celeb, Get Me Out Of Here.

I don't think etiquette came in to it once...!!

I shall keep saying this: I do not find Pete's behaviour entertaining in the slightest degree. In fact every time I watch him delivering yet another poisonous remark to put somebody down I get angry about it. I certainly don't sit there laughing at the entertainment on offer and complimenting Pete on his razor sharp "wit".

Yes and murder is murder etc etc .......verbal 'abuse' is in no way comparable to your comparisons.....you are the one bringing up control not me

I find it far more disturbing that there has been so much hysteria whipped up over this on the board and in the media.
Rightly or wrongly there have been many incidents in this BB , prior BB's, on this board and even in this thread where if we take 'intent' into account, the bile and aggression has far exceeded anything Pete did in that particular tongue lashing which was arguably semi serious.

Btw..I am very far from young, (not that I can understand why you drag age into it) and nor did I find it the height of 'entertainment'..though I did find it funny if cringeworthy as, if we go by reaction, so did Traci in a way. IMHO It was panto but panto without the 'safety net' of the complicit grin.

I call him "thrush-mush" I'll leave it to your imagination why

Nope, sorry - I've read it over and over again, and I can't make it fit your synopsis of what I've written.

Just out of interest, your thought that it's probably the younger element who find Pete entertaining is questionable. I'm 57 and am 'actually' the antithesis of Pete. I guess it's true that opposites occasionally attract. I also have friends of a similarly advanced age who likewise enjoy the cut and thrust that is Pete.

does 'Performance' ring a bell ?

'Working' the 'Audience' ?

'Panto/Psuedo/Comic/Villain with twisted tongue-in-cheek Drama'?

'Celebrity=Performer of some sort'?

'Majority of BB house being Celebrity(performers)'?

or erm!..'Awareness in the Craft of Media'?

Pete knows perfectly fine well that he's on 'view' and is playing his stage to the max!!

gosh! the guy deserves credit for that !!!

oops!..
do? some people really, weally, weally, think 'it's' ALL real..
..like erm! BayWatch?

get real...they're all actor/performers of some sort !

Just like to add my name to the list of mature people who refuse to get on this rather daft moralising bandwagon. Pomposity is not the reserve of the old! Plenty of young folks are pretty judgemental.

I can't believe that some people seem to be holding up CBB as some sort of moral yardstick and that by deeming Pete's behaviour acceptable the country is on the slippery slope towards an abyss of depravity.

But then again, it is tradition on DS BB, isn't it?

Whether on CBB or anywhere else, I don't think cruelty to others can ever be condoned. It's not a moralising bandwagon but a reminder that the majority of people believe that cruelty does not make entertainment.