Why is Petes behaviour acceptable?

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rosemary

27-01-2006

Originally Posted by magwitch:
“Just like to add my name to the list of mature people who refuse to get on this rather daft moralising bandwagon. Pomposity is not the reserve of the old! Plenty of young folks are pretty judgemental.

I can't believe that some people seem to be holding up CBB as some sort of moral yardstick and that by deeming Pete's behaviour acceptable the country is on the slippery slope towards an abyss of depravity.

But then again, it is tradition on DS BB, isn't it?”

I'm sure Pete isnt responsible for the fall of civilisation....but I still find his behaviour unpleasent to say the least.....I dont find any entertainment in watching people being insulted and belittled.

...and I still wonder if people would find pete so funny or entertaining if he were a woman....I suspect not!

Gossip Queen

27-01-2006

That's what i think if it had been someone else, they would of been hated and called a bully. I have also been wondering why it's okay for him to bully people, i don't like bullies like pete.

smalltree

27-01-2006

oops!..
do? some people really, weally, weally, think 'it's' ALL real..

..like erm! BayWatch?

get real...they're all actor/performers of some sort !

it's not really, weally, weally Reality-Tv..!

40-40J's

27-01-2006

Originally Posted by xynaria:
“Yes and murder is murder etc etc .......verbal 'abuse' is in no way comparable to your comparisons.....you are the one bringing up control not me
I find it far more disturbing that there has been so much hysteria whipped up over this on the board and in the media.
Rightly or wrongly there have been many incidents in this BB , prior BB's, on this board and even in this thread where if we take 'intent' into account, the bile and aggression has far exceeded anything Pete did in that particular tongue lashing which was arguably semi serious.

Btw..I am very far from young, (not that I can understand why you drag age into it) and nor did I find it the height of 'entertainment'..though I did find it funny if cringeworthy as, if we go by reaction, so did Traci in a way. IMHO It was panto but panto without the 'safety net' of the complicit grin.”

I did not originally bring the word 'contol' in to this, I think you'll find it was catspaw when she/he said, and I quote: "It's essentially 'safe' and comparatively civilised and controlled".

Traci was drunk, vey drunk and in no position to be able to handle Pete's spiteful tongue lashing - which he himself admitted he did just for kicks.

I see you did not comment on the answer to your question, "Just curious..what would you like BB to be?......a 3 week tea party of etiquette?"

Just because I (and many others) do not like the way Pete gets involved with his fellow housemates does not mean that we want it to resemble some kind of Bible class and we are actually talking about 'this' particular BB and not all the BB's put together, so that statement was not needed.

Cstar2229

27-01-2006

Is his behaviour acceptable?

They are enduring him so they can stay to the end.

I'm sure they will be relieved when they all leave.

realscape

27-01-2006

Whether Pete's behaviour ought to be acceptable or not is different than whether it is acceptable or has been accepted. Evidently, since none of the HMs have felt the need to either individually or by group confront Pete (as they did with Jodie) then they do in reality find his behaviour acceptable. That may be because they are all aware it is his 'stage persona' and not intended personally or that is because maybe they don't take him as a person seriously or brush it off without a problem. No one has been in the diary room to complain about him, no one has broken down in tears or shouted back at him or bitched to other HMs about how to handle him, so I guess they don't in reality feel threatened by him. Also, Barrymore frequently confronts Pete or takes the P directly to his face and he doesn't mind, so it may also be a case of Pete being perfectly happy to take what he gives, which makes people feel less offended.

Gossip Queen

27-01-2006

There all scared of him that's why, they haven't comfronted him i don't know why there scared, i would step up to him if he caused trouble with me.

realscape

27-01-2006

Originally Posted by Gossip Queen:
“There all scared of him that's why, they haven't comfronted him i don't know why there scared, i would step up to him if he caused trouble with me.”

I don't think they are scared. I think they probably think the same as we do, that Pete has got a viscious mouth, and don't care enough or don't feel threatened enough to take the trouble to confront him. I guess we'll find out what they think when they come out tonight.

xynaria

27-01-2006

Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“Traci was drunk, vey drunk and in no position to be able to handle Pete's spiteful tongue lashing - which he himself admitted he did just for kicks.”

and given that usually when people are drunk any emotion they feel is exagerated if she was that upset then I think we would have known as we did about how upset she was about being nominated.
She's a grown woman and could have just told him to go and anglo saxon himself
I'm not saying what Pete did was appropiate, just that the hysteria generated by it is just as if not more ridiculous.

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“I see you did not comment on the answer to your question, "Just curious..what would you like BB to be?......a 3 week tea party of etiquette?"”

Was there a reason I should?........if you want my take on your suggestions..yes there shouldn't be a cigarette shortage ever..it's not detox or rehab and depriving a drug addict of their drugs is just inane.
As for tasks etc..there's an awful lot they could do with the format that would be better IMHO and a damn site more imaginative though that isn't I don't think what they want.
I take the view if it isn't engaging me I don't watch it but I don't expect it to cater for just what I may or may not want.

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“Just because I (and many others) do not like the way Pete gets involved with his fellow housemates does not mean that we want it to resemble some kind of Bible class and we are actually talking about 'this' particular BB and not all the BB's put together, so that statement was not needed.”

Then you might serve yourself better by not making hysterical comparisons that give the appearance of coming from a born again Mary Whitehouse

itsnotcricket

27-01-2006

Originally Posted by realscape:
“Whether Pete's behaviour ought to be acceptable or not is different than whether it is acceptable or has been accepted. Evidently, since none of the HMs have felt the need to either individually or by group confront Pete (as they did with Jodie) then they do in reality find his behaviour acceptable. That may be because they are all aware it is his 'stage persona' and not intended personally or that is because maybe they don't take him as a person seriously or brush it off without a problem. No one has been in the diary room to complain about him, no one has broken down in tears or shouted back at him or bitched to other HMs about how to handle him, so I guess they don't in reality feel threatened by him. Also, Barrymore frequently confronts Pete or takes the P directly to his face and he doesn't mind, so it may also be a case of Pete being perfectly happy to take what he gives, which makes people feel less offended.”

What you say sounds very plausible. However, if anyone really had felt threatened by him or very upset, and gone to the diary room about it, they would not necessarily have shown this on TV. HMs do have private chats about stuff and this is not shown.

Rula reckons everyone was frightened of him; I get the impression they pussyfoot around him and don't confront him, and just hope they get him in a good mood. When someone is being attacked, the others just look relieved it's not them. The HMs and Pete display the classic behaviour of the bully and the bullied. As soon as the target moves to someone else, the previous victim makes conciliatory moves towards the bully in an effort to keep him on side and is even willing to join in the bullying of someone else to avoid it happening to them again.

realscape

27-01-2006

Originally Posted by itsnotcricket:
“What you say sounds very plausible. However, if anyone really had felt threatened by him or very upset, and gone to the diary room about it, they would not necessarily have shown this on TV. HMs do have private chats about stuff and this is not shown.

Rula reckons everyone was frightened of him; I get the impression they pussyfoot around him and don't confront him, and just hope they get him in a good mood. When someone is being attacked, the others just look relieved it's not them. The HMs and Pete display the classic behaviour of the bully and the bullied. As soon as the target moves to someone else, the previous victim makes conciliatory moves towards the bully in an effort to keep him on side and is even willing to join in the bullying of someone else to avoid it happening to them again.”

I agree with that.

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