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Press and anti Barrymore people are back
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hopwoodl
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Lorna1000:
“I imagine there's a difference between getting some straight answers about what happened that night from someone who hasn't even had the guts to face them and the 'dragging the twitching body' analogy. If my child had died in suspicious circumstances and someone who could give me some indication of his last hours left the country for four years and then came back to go directly on TV without even acknowledging my grief, I'd be livid. I think they're entitled to some information FFS. ”

Thanks - you've saved me a post! That is the whole point to me. Why would someone refuse to help with an enquiry which gives the parents some information about what happened to their son.
JimRockford
27-01-2006
It's about time the Lubbocks got over it, and stopped hounding this poor innocent man.
hiringandfiring
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“i think he could have made a big comeback if he had not sneaked into the country and if he had faced the parents

all they want is closure and he could give it to them

he says he has faced his demons but he is lying he has not faced the parents of that man, all it would take is a conversation with them , the more he ignors them the more they think he has something to hide

if he has nothing to hide he should never be worried”


truer words were never spoke. he wants to live in the limelight, that entails therefore being transparent when his name is tied in with such a serious accusation.

whats the harm in meeting the folks? heck he could show it on tv, he is desperate anyway. it would really shame the sceptics and he could smell like a rose.
JimRockford
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by hopwoodl:
“Thanks - you've saved me a post! That is the whole point to me. Why would someone refuse to help with an enquiry which gives the parents some information about what happened to their son.”

How can you give information you don't have?
1971
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by zilch:
“They state on their 'BB News website' that the papers were accepted by CH4 after a second court ruling. If they are wrong and you are correct, then I doubt if anyone will be able to get near Michael Barrymore during his exit from the house. I would also think that he will be told via the diary room of recent events - as all contestants are before evictions start - incase of shouts from the crowd etc..”

100% these papers did NOT get to even £ndemol let alone C4.
1971
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“It's about time the Lubbocks got over it, and stopped hounding this poor innocent man.”

Maybe you are too young or too stupid to know the details of what happened. You obviously do not have children or do not have any compassion at all. you poor poor thing.
hopwoodl
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“How can you give information you don't have?”

He has apparently given no information at all - he at least would be able to tell the police who was at this party so they had some leads to go on.

As for you stating that it's time they got over it, try putting yourself in their place and think about how you would feel if someone you loved was killed and you had no idea who did it or why. Yet again, the lack of empathy or caring on this board is staggering!
Lorna1000
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“How can you give information you don't have?”

How do you know what information Michael does and doesn't have? The point is, that someone with a little empathy and nothing to hide would at least acknowledge the parents of a person who died on his property. Maybe visit them, write to them, offer his condolences and all of his co-operation in finding out what did happen to their son. Running off to NZ for 4 years just tacitly says that they're loss is less important than his pride.
Last edited by Lorna1000 : 27-01-2006 at 15:12
Geeg
27-01-2006
If this was a real concern it would be done out of the media spotlight. As it is, it is funded by newspapers (The Mirror I believe? perhaps someone can verify that) for the purpose of selling newspapers and exploiting both a family who have lost someone as well as an individual who happens to be famous.

The only result this can have is a growing anger and distaste towards the Lubbock family (when they are actually being manipulated) and the racking up of the memory of a dead man for light entertainment purposes and salacious newspaper stories.

The whole thing is disgusting.
slappers r us
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“How can you give information you don't have?”

he has information he just wont share it

he hides behind his recovering alcoholic status
hopwoodl
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by GG:
“If this was a real concern it would be done out of the media spotlight. As it is, it is funded by newspapers (The Mirror I believe? perhaps someone can verify that) for the purpose of selling newspapers and exploiting both a family who have lost someone as well as an individual who happens to be famous.

The only result this can have is a growing anger and distaste towards the Lubbock family (when they are actually being manipulated) and the racking up of the memory of a dead man for light entertainment purposes and salacious newspaper stories.

The whole thing is disgusting.”

What you've said is completely true. I suppose that perhaps from the family's point of view however, it's giving their case more coverage, be it bad or good. They may hope that is persuades people who were there to come forward and help.
Luso
27-01-2006
yep, that's how I see it
hitchins
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Lorna1000:
“I imagine there's a difference between getting some straight answers about what happened that night from someone who hasn't even had the guts to face them and the 'dragging the twitching body' analogy. If my child had died in suspicious circumstances and someone who could give me some indication of his last hours left the country for four years and then came back to go directly on TV without even acknowledging my grief, I'd be livid. I think they're entitled to some information FFS. ”

He has been through all the necessary interviews and I can't see him suddenly piping up now. Rightly so, the parents need somebody to blame and Michael been who he is is the perfect candidate. I find it very odd that not one person knows what happened, if this guy had not been a celebrity the whole lot of em would have been arrested! That said, I personally would not like to see him served with them on live tv and just wish the chaps parents would realise that whoever is funding this and egging them on could not a give a rats arse about their son and just wanna sell newspapers.
JimRockford
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by 1971:
“Maybe you are too young or too stupid to know the details of what happened. You obviously do not have children or do not have any compassion at all. you poor poor thing.”

I know every single detail, more than you do on the subject. Which is why I am not blind to the tabloid lies you obviously believe. As for being stupid, well, that's you not me.
tcat
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Lorna1000:
“How do you know what information Michael does and doesn't have? The point is, that someone with a little empathy and nothing to hide would at least acknowledge the parents of a person who died on his property. Maybe visit them, write to them, offer his condolences and all of his co-operation in finding out what did happen to their son. Running off to NZ for 4 years just tacitly says that they're loss is less important than his pride.”

How do you know that he (or his representatives) have never contacted them?
hopwoodl
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“I know every single detail, more than you do on the subject. Which is why I am not blind to the tabloid lies you obviously believe. As for being stupid, well, that's you not me.”

So if you know a lot about the case, is it, or is it not true, that he has not helped the police with their enquiries at all???
Lorna1000
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by hitchins:
“He has been through all the necessary interviews and I can't see him suddenly piping up now. Rightly so, the parents need somebody to blame and Michael been who he is is the perfect candidate. I find it very odd that not one person knows what happened, if this guy had not been a celebrity the whole lot of em would have been arrested! That said, I personally would not like to see him served with them on live tv and just wish the chaps parents would realise that whoever is funding this and egging them on could not a give a rats arse about their son and just wanna sell newspapers. ”

I appreciate that he may have given everything he knows to the police. I imagine he was probably off his face at the time and can't remember. My point was (referring to my next post) that ignoring them is the height of insensitive self-obsessed arrogance. Their son died at your house - if you can't give answers at least give support.
tcat
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by hopwoodl:
“So if you know a lot about the case, is it, or is it not true, that he has not helped the police with their enquiries at all???”

Can't the police arrest (and charge) someone for that? If they believe their enquiries are being thwarted?

Have they ever arrested MB?

If they haven't (and we must remember the police know vastly more about the case than any of us - and the press) then that is the end of that accusation against Michael Barrymore I think.
JimRockford
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by hopwoodl:
“So if you know a lot about the case, is it, or is it not true, that he has not helped the police with their enquiries at all???”

Why should he? There was no evidence of foul play. There were several witnesses too.
Thickasabrick
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by babysweet:
“Thickasabrick, you are thicker than a brick. Stupid boy.”

thanks for that.
Lorna1000
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by tcat:
“How do you know that he (or his representatives) have never contacted them?”

I'm making an educated guess that he hasn't approached them in any kind of sympathetic way because they are still shouting at every available opportunity for answers from him. If he'd sent his representatives that is as bad in my eyes as not bothering to speak to them at all.
hopwoodl
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by JimRockford:
“Why should he? There was no evidence of foul play. There were several witnesses too.”

Without being graphic, I thought there was a fair amount of evidence that he was sexually abused.

As to your statement, "Why should he?" I would say that most people in his situation, where someone died at his house, would want to help, if only to get the case solved so that he and everyone else can start to rebuild their lives!
Thickasabrick
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“he has information he just wont share it

he hides behind his recovering alcoholic status”

How do you know?

What do you know?
musicangel
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Pushka:
“When you say "them", is it the bereaved parents, or the harmless court officials you're wanting to see physically assaulted?”

maybe they should concentrate on getting on with their lives! instead of instigating a media cirus! what else can be said that wasnt said at the time!??? every time i open a paper i see his dads name!! he is upset and is looking for someone to blame, but he's looking at the wrong person! i hope they lock them in the bb house for about twenty years lawers like that deserve that!!
tcat
27-01-2006
Originally Posted by Lorna1000:
“I'm making an educated guess that he hasn't approached them in any kind of sympathetic way because they are still shouting at every available opportunity for answers from him.”

Encouraged by the press they are doing this yes.

So it is entirely possible that either MB himself or representatives may have contacted them.

Thankyou.
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