Originally Posted by ChildOfThe70s:
“he is fantastically witty and exceptionally clever”
“he is fantastically witty and exceptionally clever”
please give us an example of his cleverness
I don't understand why some people think Pete is intelligent.
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Originally Posted by duncann:
“He's definitely intelligent, extremely so. You seem to be confusing intelligent with likeable or admirable. I just watched a few minutes ago and he was yet again having to explain to the depressingly thick Chantelle what 'cup runneth over' meant and where it came from. He did it sweetly with grace, not the least patronising.”
“He's definitely intelligent, extremely so. You seem to be confusing intelligent with likeable or admirable. I just watched a few minutes ago and he was yet again having to explain to the depressingly thick Chantelle what 'cup runneth over' meant and where it came from. He did it sweetly with grace, not the least patronising.”
i'm think myself as averagely intelligent,and english isn't my first language....i know what that means and it doesn't make me highly intelligent.
I think you could be on to something here hopwoodl.....
Originally Posted by hopwoodl:
“Apparently, if another person brings out really strong negative emotions in you, it's often because they sub-consciously remind you or yourself...”
“Apparently, if another person brings out really strong negative emotions in you, it's often because they sub-consciously remind you or yourself...”
As usual..........yet another thread asking for specific examples of PB's intelligence sinks without a trace.
Originally Posted by Pedro:
“As usual..........yet another thread asking for specific examples of PB's intelligence sinks without a trace.”
“As usual..........yet another thread asking for specific examples of PB's intelligence sinks without a trace.”
Well I wonder why that is? Nice chorus of booing that Pete got by the way
The clips they showed when he was propounding on different subjects weren't intelligent or witty.
It's because he says he's intelligent that people just automatically believe him.
It's because he says he's intelligent that people just automatically believe him.
Use of the word 'repugnant' doesn't actually qualify someone as an intellectual in my book.
IMO, he's very much like GG - he speaks with supreme confidence, his delivery/timing of speech is excellent & he knows a few long words.
That's about it!!! There is a huge difference between being a good Orator & being particularly intelligent.
Both he & GG demonstrated their inability to be consistent in thinking, to develop a logical argument & to think laterally. PB says 'he likes to make people think' - that's a laaarf! Both were just vitriolic & accomplished at bitching about people & spitting out venom - they came over as nasty, arrogant & biggoted.
They were also unable to assess a situation & react appropriately i.e. they had no sense of perspective.
Not really the ingredients of 'intellectualism' or a high level of intelligence.
Although we all laughed at Chantelle's lack of General Knowledge & vocabulary - she, at least, did demonstrate more perspective & logic then either of them. Ironically, she was also a much better communicator.
IMO, he's very much like GG - he speaks with supreme confidence, his delivery/timing of speech is excellent & he knows a few long words.
That's about it!!! There is a huge difference between being a good Orator & being particularly intelligent.
Both he & GG demonstrated their inability to be consistent in thinking, to develop a logical argument & to think laterally. PB says 'he likes to make people think' - that's a laaarf! Both were just vitriolic & accomplished at bitching about people & spitting out venom - they came over as nasty, arrogant & biggoted.
They were also unable to assess a situation & react appropriately i.e. they had no sense of perspective.
Not really the ingredients of 'intellectualism' or a high level of intelligence.
Although we all laughed at Chantelle's lack of General Knowledge & vocabulary - she, at least, did demonstrate more perspective & logic then either of them. Ironically, she was also a much better communicator.
Anyone can read a thesaurus and claim to be a genius.
I'd rather listen to someone interesting talking in words of one syllable than a complete ass with a high opinion of himself.
Plus, I always thought that most (if not all) of Pete's 'witty' comments were well used and well rehearsed by him.
I'd rather listen to someone interesting talking in words of one syllable than a complete ass with a high opinion of himself.
Plus, I always thought that most (if not all) of Pete's 'witty' comments were well used and well rehearsed by him.
Some people are so bitter, aren't they? Pete is clearly intelligent. He was the most intelligent person in that house bar none. His emotional intelligence matched his intellectual intelligence.
Originally Posted by Riseholme:
“Some people are so bitter, aren't they? Pete is clearly intelligent. He was the most intelligent person in that house bar none. His emotional intelligence matched his intellectual intelligence.”
“Some people are so bitter, aren't they? Pete is clearly intelligent. He was the most intelligent person in that house bar none. His emotional intelligence matched his intellectual intelligence.”
Emotional intelligence? I saw a sad lost soul who has separated himself from normal warm human interaction and whose arid cynicism looks set to condemn him to a sad and lonely old age, masked by the circle of sycophantic hangers on who continue to tell him what a genius he really is.
I've never claimed Pete was intelligent - I just liked him best out of the housemates - thats my choice 
Are there any examples of Pete's wit? A "quotes" thread, perhaps?
I ask because the ones in his "best bits" VT weren't very impressive. The best ones were quotes, and even he seemed to think they must have searched hard to find them.
One I did like was they must have hatched her (Chantelle) from an egg, and I'm assumning it's not a quote; but he doesn't seem to come up with anything that good very often. Insulting put-downs could just be ones he's used before, perhaps recombined (similar to the way people can produce combinations of swear words) rather than being fully spontaneous.
I ask because the ones in his "best bits" VT weren't very impressive. The best ones were quotes, and even he seemed to think they must have searched hard to find them.
One I did like was they must have hatched her (Chantelle) from an egg, and I'm assumning it's not a quote; but he doesn't seem to come up with anything that good very often. Insulting put-downs could just be ones he's used before, perhaps recombined (similar to the way people can produce combinations of swear words) rather than being fully spontaneous.
I liked it (loved it) when he went on about how he had "high principles" about word usage i.e. not using "love" when you mean "like". It's good to know that someone like Pete is battling so hard on this vital issue. He obviously has a well-attuned sense of what is important.
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde:
“He has an extensive vocabulary which demonstrates his superior authority over the english language...”
“He has an extensive vocabulary which demonstrates his superior authority over the english language...”
LMAO!! Owning a dictionary and stealing quotes willy-nilly from a variety of gay icons does NOT a genius make.
Originally Posted by itsnotcricket:
“Emotional intelligence? I saw a sad lost soul who has separated himself from normal warm human interaction and whose arid cynicism looks set to condemn him to a sad and lonely old age, masked by the circle of sycophantic hangers on who continue to tell him what a genius he really is.”
“Emotional intelligence? I saw a sad lost soul who has separated himself from normal warm human interaction and whose arid cynicism looks set to condemn him to a sad and lonely old age, masked by the circle of sycophantic hangers on who continue to tell him what a genius he really is.”
Yeah, whatever Dr Freud. I think the fact that he has managed to sustain two long-term relationships and still gets on with his ex-wife rather gives the lie to your pedestrian "analysis".
*sigh*
Ok, so he can hold a down a long-term relationship. That makes him loyal, it doesn't make him intelligent. I'm (we're) still waiting for proof of that.
Ok, so he can hold a down a long-term relationship. That makes him loyal, it doesn't make him intelligent. I'm (we're) still waiting for proof of that.
Originally Posted by Riseholme:
“Some people are so bitter, aren't they? Pete is clearly intelligent. He was the most intelligent person in that house bar none. His emotional intelligence matched his intellectual intelligence.”
“Some people are so bitter, aren't they? Pete is clearly intelligent. He was the most intelligent person in that house bar none. His emotional intelligence matched his intellectual intelligence.”
... or like humming-birds thinking that robins are are massive?
Originally Posted by ChildOfThe70s:
“he is fantastically witty and exceptionally clever”
“he is fantastically witty and exceptionally clever”
Clever certainly - to quote him "like a gutter-snipe" - intelligence is completely different, intelligence, as I understand it, is about the ability to think laterally or creatively, to have an openess to learning from one's mistakes, to be mutable - open to change and development and open minded. I have no doubt he has a good IQ - but for me it's how one uses it - that is key IMO. If one uses ones cognitive abilities and potential to improve one's ability to psychologically, potentially destroy someone, to never turn one's mind power to true self-awareness (only use the language of it) or be so fixed in one's opinions it becomes rampant belligerence is not, IMO, a mark of intelligence.
A friend of mine remembers him from the gay clubs in Blackpool in the 80's and said they recalled him having a reputation for being difficult and bitchy back then!
From what I saw PB seemed completely asleep to himself, often projecting his own faults onto others and contradicting himself often. I thought statements like - I tell the truth - were particularly lacking in the presence or active intelligence, an intelligent person would understand - 'the truth as I see it'.
IMO he came across as socially, psychologically and intellectually lazy! I don't think he really engaged with anyone - same with GG. I think he was continually on the defensive, which suggest to me a very vulnerable human being - I thought the continual bitching, shit-stirring and repeated statements about not caring, being tough, I can take it (methinks the lady doth protest too much!) bordred on obsessive neurosis, though the situation seemed to induce and intensify feelings of paranoia and bring out the various foibles of the HMs.
I don't think his vocabulary was anything special, particularly.
Originally Posted by malarkey:
“Use of the word 'repugnant' doesn't actually qualify someone as an intellectual in my book.
IMO, he's very much like GG - he speaks with supreme confidence, his delivery/timing of speech is excellent & he knows a few long words.
That's about it!!! There is a huge difference between being a good Orator & being particularly intelligent.
Both he & GG demonstrated their inability to be consistent in thinking, to develop a logical argument & to think laterally. PB says 'he likes to make people think' - that's a laaarf! Both were just vitriolic & accomplished at bitching about people & spitting out venom - they came over as nasty, arrogant & biggoted.
They were also unable to assess a situation & react appropriately i.e. they had no sense of perspective.
Not really the ingredients of 'intellectualism' or a high level of intelligence.
Although we all laughed at Chantelle's lack of General Knowledge & vocabulary - she, at least, did demonstrate more perspective & logic then either of them. Ironically, she was also a much better communicator.”
“Use of the word 'repugnant' doesn't actually qualify someone as an intellectual in my book.
IMO, he's very much like GG - he speaks with supreme confidence, his delivery/timing of speech is excellent & he knows a few long words.
That's about it!!! There is a huge difference between being a good Orator & being particularly intelligent.
Both he & GG demonstrated their inability to be consistent in thinking, to develop a logical argument & to think laterally. PB says 'he likes to make people think' - that's a laaarf! Both were just vitriolic & accomplished at bitching about people & spitting out venom - they came over as nasty, arrogant & biggoted.
They were also unable to assess a situation & react appropriately i.e. they had no sense of perspective.
Not really the ingredients of 'intellectualism' or a high level of intelligence.
Although we all laughed at Chantelle's lack of General Knowledge & vocabulary - she, at least, did demonstrate more perspective & logic then either of them. Ironically, she was also a much better communicator.”
Beautifully put - thank you!
you said it better than i could
If the abitity to make a quick reposte is all you need to demonstrate intelligence....then Stephen Hawkins must be thick as f***!
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