Funny language Eglish - sorry!
FTA Gems
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Two French speaking Belgian channels have appeared (feeds) on 16E - Plug TV on 11150H 5632 3/4 and RTL-TVi on 12364H 5632 3/4.
Originally Posted by astra19E:
“Two French speaking Belgian channels have appeared (feeds) on 16E - Plug TV on 11150H 5632 3/4 and RTL-TVi on 12364H 5632 3/4.”
“Two French speaking Belgian channels have appeared (feeds) on 16E - Plug TV on 11150H 5632 3/4 and RTL-TVi on 12364H 5632 3/4.”
Club TV was also there, but now all 3 have gone!
You Britishfolk don't realize how lucky you are. You probably get more FTA channels there with a motorized 90 cm dish than we in the U.S. would with a motorized 12-footer.
.......... and very few of them are yours! (Just kidding 
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A lot of our European ones are not so hot - Shopping, Religion, that sort of thing. Oh, and dreadful Sex "Tempters", Horoscopes, you name it.
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Does your user name reflect a Ham Radio Callsign?
)A lot of our European ones are not so hot - Shopping, Religion, that sort of thing. Oh, and dreadful Sex "Tempters", Horoscopes, you name it.
Welcome to Digital Spy
Does your user name reflect a Ham Radio Callsign?
It surely does.
But you definitely do get a lot of national broadcasters / variety stations from many countries. RAI...Das Erste...Mediaset, TVE, etc.
But you definitely do get a lot of national broadcasters / variety stations from many countries. RAI...Das Erste...Mediaset, TVE, etc.
We do. But people in the UK and Ireland are highly monoglotic, and they don't do English soundtracks or subtitles much...
Originally Posted by kc0ltv:
“You Britishfolk don't realize how lucky you are. You probably get more FTA channels there with a motorized 90 cm dish than we in the U.S. would with a motorized 12-footer.”
“You Britishfolk don't realize how lucky you are. You probably get more FTA channels there with a motorized 90 cm dish than we in the U.S. would with a motorized 12-footer.”
I've looked at the US listings and you are right to point this out. If collecting FTA TV stations is the game then we are rich!
It is also true you need somewhat, - - - shall we say, - - - 'peculiar' tastes in TV to actually enjoy them.
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Hey rai due, we get quite a few US TV programmes (sorry 'programs'
) I've just been watching CBS News
There is always 'Voice of America', and your favourite (favorite) 'The Pentagon Channel'. You know you like it.
Originally Posted by kc0ltv:
“It surely does.”
“It surely does.”
Likewise! (G4CNG)
In this house, we watch a lot of Italian and French language stuff as well as English.
Originally Posted by rai due:
“Likewise! (G4CNG)
In this house, we watch a lot of Italian and French language stuff as well as English.”
“Likewise! (G4CNG)
In this house, we watch a lot of Italian and French language stuff as well as English.”
I see.
How is being a ham in the U.K.? Are there lots of antenna restrictions? I think I heard you're limited to a 90 cm dish without approval from the local planning commission (I don't know the term you use across the pond).
Originally Posted by logjam:
“It is also true you need somewhat, - - - shall we say, - - - 'peculiar' tastes in TV to actually enjoy them.”
“It is also true you need somewhat, - - - shall we say, - - - 'peculiar' tastes in TV to actually enjoy them.
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The "FTA scene" isn't quite that bad, although it pales in comparison to that of Europe. You can still see quite a few interesting things with a Ku dish - I have an 80 cm which I plan on upgrading to a 120 cm - probably the biggest highlight is the selection of international programming available, from many different countries, and some from the U.S., but targeted towards different ethnic groups. Feedhunting can also be quite fun - newsfeeds are abundant, since almost every TV market in the U.S. has at least 4-6 local TV stations (affiliates of our major networks), and many of those have their own news crew and SNG truck. A blind scan receiver (I have a Fortec Star Lifetime Ultra, popular here) helps greatly.
If you have a C-Band dish, things improve greatly, but I still have fun with my Ku.
How do you cope with the circular/linear polarity mismatches? The feed sats over the US seem to be mostly linear and the consumer birds circular. Whereas here everything is linear pretty much.
Currently in England we are restricted to a 1m dish without plannning permission.* We can have a second up to 60cm. Planning permission is a not normally a problem if the dish can be tucked away out of site. (Not always possible of course)
I can see that feed hunting could be quite fruitful in the US.
I regularly watch the CBS European feed. The have the raw CBS evening news from New York at 11:30pm.
* There are complicated exceptions which I won't bore you with
Scotland, Wales and N Ireland have their own rules but eventually it is expected they will be roughly the same as England.
I can see that feed hunting could be quite fruitful in the US.
I regularly watch the CBS European feed. The have the raw CBS evening news from New York at 11:30pm.
* There are complicated exceptions which I won't bore you with
Scotland, Wales and N Ireland have their own rules but eventually it is expected they will be roughly the same as England.
Originally Posted by logjam:
“Currently in England we are restricted to a 1m dish without plannning permission.* We can have a second up to 60cm. Planning permission is a not normally a problem if the dish can be tucked away out of site. (Not always possible of course)
I can see that feed hunting could be quite fruitful in the US.
I regularly watch the CBS European feed. The have the raw CBS evening news from New York at 11:30pm.
* There are complicated exceptions which I won't bore you with
Scotland, Wales and N Ireland have their own rules but eventually it is expected they will be roughly the same as England.”
“Currently in England we are restricted to a 1m dish without plannning permission.* We can have a second up to 60cm. Planning permission is a not normally a problem if the dish can be tucked away out of site. (Not always possible of course)
I can see that feed hunting could be quite fruitful in the US.
I regularly watch the CBS European feed. The have the raw CBS evening news from New York at 11:30pm.
* There are complicated exceptions which I won't bore you with
Scotland, Wales and N Ireland have their own rules but eventually it is expected they will be roughly the same as England.”
What if you're in a rural area? I know there isn't too much open space in England, but I know that Scotland is pretty sparse in areas.
How hard is planning permission to get otherwise?
Originally Posted by KianD:
“How do you cope with the circular/linear polarity mismatches? The feed sats over the US seem to be mostly linear and the consumer birds circular. Whereas here everything is linear pretty much.”
“How do you cope with the circular/linear polarity mismatches? The feed sats over the US seem to be mostly linear and the consumer birds circular. Whereas here everything is linear pretty much.”
At our house, we use separate dishes for the Dish Network (about 50 cm) and FTA (80 cm, 1m or 1.2m to be added soon hopefully). On the FTA dish I have an Invacom QPH-031, which has two circular and linear outputs each.
Is it legal there to watch raw news or sports feeds? I know you have very strict laws regarding scanner reception. I'm not sure if they apply to satellite TV or not, though.
Originally Posted by kc0ltv:
“What if you're in a rural area? I know there isn't too much open space in England, but I know that Scotland is pretty sparse in areas.
How hard is planning permission to get otherwise?
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“What if you're in a rural area? I know there isn't too much open space in England, but I know that Scotland is pretty sparse in areas.
How hard is planning permission to get otherwise?
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If you are in the middle of nowhere no-one is going to bother you. Ive got 5 dishes up and apart from a few funny looks from the lads on the farm when Im out in the garden waving various dishes around no-ones said anything yet
Originally Posted by kc0ltv:
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Is it legal there to watch raw news or sports feeds? I know you have very strict laws regarding scanner reception. I'm not sure if they apply to satellite TV or not, though.”
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Is it legal there to watch raw news or sports feeds? I know you have very strict laws regarding scanner reception. I'm not sure if they apply to satellite TV or not, though.”
If its in the clear then its perfectly legal. Encrypted feeds tend to be either very securely encrypted or use transmission formats that most folks dont have the specialised kit to access.
Originally Posted by kc0ltv:
“How hard is planning permission to get otherwise?”
“How hard is planning permission to get otherwise?”
The issue is one of visual impact. If it cannot be seen from a road or does not disturb a neigbour's outlook then it wouldn't be difficult. If a neighbour objected, you would have problems.
'Need' is another issue. Having a large dish is not required for standard TV reception, so you would have to argue that you need it to pursue a hobby. That might or might not be considered a good enough reason. A council has to give a good reason to deny permission. It can be challenged.
The law is only a 'by-law'. If you went ahead a put up a large dish, it can only be pursued by the local council if it wants to - or if a complaint is made. The worst that can happen is that a 28 day order is given for its removal.
As analoguesat suggests, it is only an issue if someone wants it to be. No arrests or fines
Councils do have other powers even over legally sized dishes. If they think it would be better in a different position, they can make you move it.
It is all designed to keep the country looking 'nice'
Originally Posted by Analoguesat:
“If its in the clear then its perfectly legal. Encrypted feeds tend to be either very securely encrypted or use transmission formats that most folks dont have the specialised kit to access.”
“If its in the clear then its perfectly legal. Encrypted feeds tend to be either very securely encrypted or use transmission formats that most folks dont have the specialised kit to access.”
I got shocked when I first saw the picture quality of the feeds- using full resolution & high bitrates, it really shows you what Digital TV can acheive. It's a shame most channels are broadcasting in sub-analogue quality with reduced resolution (some as low as 288x352, ironically one of these is called "Hellas HDTV"), video bitrates below 4mbps and audio below 200kbps, so we just can't see what Digital TV can really offer. I just hope Hi Definition doesn't stoop to these poor standards.
"National TV" from Romania on 16E shows lots of UK/US shows in the original language - http://www.nationaltv.ro/seriale/seriale.php
The planning rules in Wales are the same as England, this as not been devolved, as Wales is a principality,unlike Nth Ireland and Scotland which are Dominions and have there own law making, Wales does not.
Only exceptions Education and health which have been devolved.
Bob Wrexham
Only exceptions Education and health which have been devolved.
Bob Wrexham
Originally Posted by merlodlliw:
“The planning rules in Wales are the same as England, . . . . .”
“The planning rules in Wales are the same as England, . . . . .”
Not true, I'm afraid. The recent legislation is for England only. The Welsh assembly is currently reviewing planning legislation for antenna.
I quote from the assembly's own web site.
http://www.wales.gov.uk/organipo/index.htm
Quote:
“The Assembly is a devolved body that decides on its priorities and allocates the funds made available to it by the UK Government. Powers devolved to the Assembly include health, education, economic development, planning and culture. Within its powers, the Assembly develops policy and passes legislation affecting the people of Wales.”
“The Assembly is a devolved body that decides on its priorities and allocates the funds made available to it by the UK Government. Powers devolved to the Assembly include health, education, economic development, planning and culture. Within its powers, the Assembly develops policy and passes legislation affecting the people of Wales.”
I put the relevant word in bold type.
If you explore the web site you will find the 2004 consultation paper and the various options they are considering.
It is particularly important to get tailored legislation for Wales because DTT coverage is going to be impossible in many parts of Wales.
More fta goodness at 39e HELLASSAT 2
TV1000
Viasat History
Cinemax
Hallmark
Eurosport
VH1
Viasat Explorer/FreeXTV
National Geo
Jetix
AXN Crime
AXN Bulgaria
All fta at:
12.688 (H) /28.800
Plus on 13e I can get Eurosport 2 channels on:
11.242 (V)/27.500
TV1000
Viasat History
Cinemax
Hallmark
Eurosport
VH1
Viasat Explorer/FreeXTV
National Geo
Jetix
AXN Crime
AXN Bulgaria
All fta at:
12.688 (H) /28.800
Plus on 13e I can get Eurosport 2 channels on:
11.242 (V)/27.500
Originally Posted by EmbEn:
“More fta goodness at 39e HELLASSAT 2
TV1000
Viasat History
Cinemax
Hallmark
Eurosport
VH1
Viasat Explorer/FreeXTV
National Geo
Jetix
AXN Crime
AXN Bulgaria
All fta at:
12.688 (H) /28.800
Plus on 13e I can get Eurosport 2 channels on:
11.242 (V)/27.500”
“More fta goodness at 39e HELLASSAT 2
TV1000
Viasat History
Cinemax
Hallmark
Eurosport
VH1
Viasat Explorer/FreeXTV
National Geo
Jetix
AXN Crime
AXN Bulgaria
All fta at:
12.688 (H) /28.800
Plus on 13e I can get Eurosport 2 channels on:
11.242 (V)/27.500”
Nice find...
Also on HellasSat (same frequency) FTA
City TV
D Family
GTV
How big a dish does one need for Hellasat in southern England? (I know about footprint/EIRP links on Lyngsat - I looking for real life reception reports)
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