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Old 04-02-2006, 13:19
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I couldn't go back like that, although I understand why they did it with Den. When I started in EastEnders in 1998 I told myself I'd do three years, which is the optimum amount of time to spend on these shows and still be able to walk away with your dignity intact as far as I'm concerned.

Dignity intact? how offensive to true acting greats such as June Brown, Barbra Windsor, Pat St Clement and so on.

I always thought he was a crap actor, he was more wooden than pinocchio and those mentioned wipe the floor with him and we all know that if Steve Owen wasn't killed off he'd be back like a shot, seem as though his acting jobs are few and far between (Oh waith DFS pay him a fair bit).
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Old 04-02-2006, 13:22
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Originally Posted by Wick_ed
I couldn't go back like that, although I understand why they did it with Den. When I started in EastEnders in 1998 I told myself I'd do three years, which is the optimum amount of time to spend on these shows and still be able to walk away with your dignity intact as far as I'm concerned.

Dignity intact? how offensive to true acting greats such as June Brown, Barbra Windsor, Pat St Clement and so on.

I always thought he was a crap actor, he was more wooden than pinocchio and those mentioned wipe the floor with him and we all know that if Steve Owen wasn't killed off he'd be back like a shot, seem as though his acting jobs are few and far between (Oh waith DFS pay him a fair bit).
I thought he was excellent in that brides in the bath drama.
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Old 04-02-2006, 13:22
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I don't think he was that bad an actor but agree it was an offensive statment!
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Old 04-02-2006, 13:32
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If you've been in a soap for more than 5 years it's because you wouldn't be good at anything else and no one else would want you.

That's my opinion.
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Old 04-02-2006, 13:35
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How exactly is what he said offensive? He just didn't want to be stuck in the same part for years on end.
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Old 04-02-2006, 14:03
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and he left just before berridge took over.
just think how much dignity he would have left is she got her hands on his character
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Old 04-02-2006, 14:06
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he was great as Steve Owen in the John yorke and Mattew Robinson era. The writers were also much more talented in them days and knew exactly what to do with the steve owen character. I still miss him and wish he didn't get killed off
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Old 04-02-2006, 14:26
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What? He still thinks he's got some dignity by trying to flog us sofas? HELLO........!
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Old 04-02-2006, 14:39
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'Martin Kemp rules out Eastenders return' - erm, who asked him back? I'm sure the producers are well aware that he died in a car explosion we saw on screen and so wouldnt be able to return anyway. i wouldn't want him back anyway.
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Old 04-02-2006, 14:53
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How come all those Sofas are already in his house yet he can't decide which one to buy? I don't understand those ads.
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Old 04-02-2006, 15:21
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Like him or loathe him, he WAS EastEnders from 99-2002.
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Old 04-02-2006, 15:55
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Originally Posted by roberella
'Martin Kemp rules out Eastenders return' - erm, who asked him back? I'm sure the producers are well aware that he died in a car explosion we saw on screen and so wouldnt be able to return anyway. i wouldn't want him back anyway.
They also saw Den get shot.
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Old 04-02-2006, 16:36
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Originally Posted by bob_loblaw
If you've been in a soap for more than 5 years it's because you wouldn't be good at anything else and no one else would want you.

That's my opinion.
I don't think thats true at all. What about great actors like Barbara Windsor, shes not exactly on the scrap heap.

Also Todd carty was in EE for more than 5 years and hes managing to find work elsewhere.
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Old 04-02-2006, 16:39
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Originally Posted by soap_soap
They also saw Den get shot.
No that was diffrent. When Den was shot we only saw a gun and heard a splash when Den fell into a canal. We didn't actually see Den getting shot.

Steve coming back would make EE a laughing stock and they would never take the risk of bringing any character back from the dead especially after being burnt to a crisp. I wish he could come back but his death made it impossible.
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Old 04-02-2006, 16:40
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I loved the character of steve owen, but there wasnt any likely storylines left for him, so it was wise for him to leave when he did. All good villians get their comeuppance eventually.

What he said was quite offensive to the other actors on EE, but he is probably right. Long term soap actors are generally looked down upon by other actors and casters. Mainly because they become synonymous with their character, so its difficult to take them seriously in any other role. Take Deirdre or Ken from Corrie, I couldnt imagine them playing anyone else convincingly.
Its difficult enough to make it as an actor though. I suspect that long serving cast members are extremely well paid, so i'm sure they wont be too bothered about those who choose to act snobbishly about their choice of employment.
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Old 04-02-2006, 16:44
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Originally Posted by *Cinderflare*
What about great actors like Barbara Windsor.
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Old 04-02-2006, 16:57
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Originally Posted by pconno1

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I always thought she should've got that oscar for 'Carry on Camping'...She was robbed!!
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Old 04-02-2006, 17:11
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I'm glad he isn't coming back.
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Old 04-02-2006, 17:23
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I can't see anything wrong with what he said and I'm still chuckling at Barbra Windsor being described as a 'true acting great'
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Old 04-02-2006, 17:32
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Wish he would come back, I thought his character was great.

Did Steve ever get a funeral in EE? We saw the explosion... he *could* have escaped at the last minute if they wanted him to.
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Old 04-02-2006, 17:35
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I can't see anything wrong with what he said and I'm still chuckling at Barbra Windsor being described as a 'true acting great'
Well ok, that may be debatable, but come on she has had a long acting career, more than some people on EE.
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Old 04-02-2006, 17:46
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Dignity intact? how offensive to true acting greats such as Pat St Clement .



Thanks for cheering me up (though you mean Pam not Pat); I never thought I'd read the words 'true acting great' and Pam St Clement in the same sentence. My sides are near splitting.......

If this wooden and one dimensional actress is a true great then must would make Wendy Richard a legend!
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Old 04-02-2006, 22:04
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Dignity? *cough*DFS adverts*cough*
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Old 04-02-2006, 23:07
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Originally Posted by *Cinderflare*
I don't think thats true at all. What about great actors like Barbara Windsor, shes not exactly on the scrap heap.

Also Todd carty was in EE for more than 5 years and hes managing to find work elsewhere.
Steve Owen is a brilliant actor!!! Remember he played Reggie Kray in the movie 'The Krays'! Now I know the Reggie character and the Steve Owen character are about the same, but I still think Steve is great.
Now, as for Todd Carty, THANK YOU CINDERFLARE! Finally someone gives Todd Carty credit. He was excellent and inspirational in Eastenders for over a decade, played good guy Mark Fowler. He then made a complete transition into bad guy and played Gabriel in The Bill. Its a shame hes dead in both soaps, because they were great characters and he is a brilliant actor.
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Old 04-02-2006, 23:51
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Originally Posted by bob_loblaw
If you've been in a soap for more than 5 years it's because you wouldn't be good at anything else and no one else would want you.

That's my opinion.

I dont agree i mean did you watch soap star super star half of them are very good at singing
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