Totally agree with all the previous posts. I'm watching DoI religiously but I couldn't really give a hoot who wins it! All I want is to see Jayne and Chris and to see what they are going to skate each week.

Did I read it right that they are going to skate a version of Bolero on the final week or will it just be the 'celebs'?

The only dvd on release is a US one and it's the collaboration they did with Yo Yo Ma a few years back. It's interesting to see on ebay that all the videos are going for upwards of £20 when, last year, they woudn't have got 99p. Still, it's all good if it gets T and D back into the public eye. Knowing the mercenary nature of most tv companies I'd be surprised if a T and D best of dvd wasn't in the pipeline.

Lastly, I always thought that, if there was any romance, it would have been in the very early days, when they were first travelling to Germany etc on their own ('75-'78-ish). They have commented many times on how they were out on their own and thrown together at this time. There's some comment in John Hennessey's book about them clinging to each other (metaphorically!) because they didn't know anyone else. I think by the time they began to be well known it would have cooled off.

Phew! Anyway, that's my tuppence worth. I'm going through all my recordings at the moment and lots of good memories are coming back!

On another note, does anyone know how much skating Jayne does these days?

Its been commented on another website that her skating is looking "ropey" compared to Chris, who in their opinion "still has it".This was put down to the fact that Jayne lives a long way from her local Ice Rink. Personally I hadn't noticed and think they are just as good as they used to be.

As for them doing Bolero, I had heard that they find their routines more challenging now they are older so if they do do it, it will be a shorter abreviated version.

Where was this said? I don't think that's true at all. They looked slightly shaky the first couple of weeks but each week they have both increased in confidence no end and they are looking extremely relaxed and enjoying it greatly now.

I know that Jayne hardly skates any more as she says that she finds it frustrating to be able to do nothing more than float round on her own. But I see no difference in her and Chris's ability.

I can't believe anyone could refer to Jayne's skating as 'ropey' - I think they're both doing a great job. You have to remember they're both in their late 40's and although Chris is very busy in the U.S as a choreographer and so spends a lot of time on his skates, neither of them has performed for about 8 years before this show.

Jayne apparently lives near Tunbridge Wells, miles from the nearest ice rink. There was talk a while ago of an ice rink opening in Brighton and Jayne and Robin Cousins were supposed to be involved with coaching - at least that would be closer to her home, but I don't know whether anything came of it.

I personally do hope, once DoI is over and Chris goes back to his family in America, we can get Jayne back on the ice more - I think she'd make a great coach to our up and coming skaters.

I personally think every town should have a rink. That way skating would become more available to everyone.

We are supposed to be getting one here. But it won't be for another two or three years and it will only be a small one in a new shopping centre.

Agreed, Sparklebabe. That was the way it used to be. My nearest is Streatham, which is about to be demolished by Tesco They are negotiating to build a replacement but I am still smarting from the loss of Richmond. The world needs more riverside apartments and supermarkets don't ya think?!

Our nearest rink is about 50 miles away too

Totally agree, thats absolutely ridiculous

Jayne is usually the one my eyes are drawn to when they skate, partly because I'm more of a fan of her than I am of Chris, partly because she's beautiful and she's got a great figure, and partly because I just adore watching her skate. Every move she makes is so graceful, and respect to Chris for still being able to do all the lifts at his age but all of them need a huge amount of talent and trust from Jayne.
The one where she cartwheeled only holding onto his hands behind his back was stunning.
I think she's particularly amazing if she doesn't get to skate often and still be this perfect on the ice!

Anyway, thats my Jayne love fest over... for now

I don't think anyone has really gotten over the way Chris spoke to Jayne in that now infamous documentary about ten years ago. He was really nasty to her. It was quite shocking actually.

I know they say they were misrepresented in that because they were stressed out from training hard, but I certainly wouldn't have allowed him to speak to me like that!
She was in tears poor thing

But I do still love 'em!

I just think Chris was and is a perfectionist. He wanted each routine to be as perfect as possible and it certainly showed in their performances. I think it's just part of his character. Jayne's more easy going and sometimes needed some pushing. That's the impression I got anyway!

Their coach in those days, Betty Callaway, always said Jayne was passive and even tempered - it took a lot to rile her. Chris was more driven. They made the perfect foil for each other - that's probably why they did so well!

I always believed they were misrepresented in that documentary, even before they said so in their book. I mean, how far would they honestly have got had Jayne spent the majority of training in tears? Not past the 1980 Olympics, let alone winning them 4 years later!

Absolutely. What they also said was that they didn't show Chris going to see her straight after and sorting it all out. You could tell they were unhappy about that documentary most of the way through. It was a terrific inside view of what goes on, but only if you know how to take it.

Why exactly did they make that documentary?

I've never actually seen the documentary ( ) and I'm not sure exactly what he was saying to make her cry, but I've never liked Chris as much after I heard about it
Fair enough he's a perfectionist but being so nasty as to make her cry...

I do still think they're best mates and whatever disagreements they've had in training are understandable because they were under so much pressure.
You can tell they still love each other, bless them

Anyway, if I ever meet Chris I'll slap him for making my Jayne cry...
...right before going 'OHMYGODCHRISTOPHERDEAN can I have an autograph?' and hugging him

One of my friends has 'borrowed' my copy of T&D's book, but this is what I remember from it...

They regretted not having a record of their build up to the 1984 Olympics, so when someone offered, they said yes. That day was just after they got back from the Euros, having been 'advised' by an ISU official that their programme needed to be changed, so they were tense and unhappy. They'd been told by the doco maker that their on-ice training footage was boring, so would they please wear microphones. They didn't want to, but that day they gave in, and that was the result. Jayne didn't want to argue with Chris on camera, but he just ran with it. Apparently they sorted it out off-ice, took the microphones off, and did another few hours of productive work afterwards. They weren't pleased to find that it was cut throughout the documentary to make it look like that was key to their relationship, when it wasn't the case.

They've said in the past that they may argue on the ice, but they don't take disagreements off the rink with them. I don't think they'd be as good friends as they seem to be if that wasn't true

Basically what happened was they were rehearsing a lift for their programme and Jayne, who was tired couldn't get it right. Chris lost his patience ,snapped at her and said, and Ive never forgotten this "No you look like you've fallen on an airoplane Jayne" or words similar. Jayne got upset and burst into tears, then Chris was reallly vicious and said something like "Oh thats it Jayne go on turn on the water works". It was really cruel. I think Jayne may have stormed off the rink after that, though I can't actually remember.

I was very young at the time. But at school the next day everyone was talking about it.

I once saw Ginger Rogers as an old lady being interviwed on Wogan. She said Fred Astaire was a lovely man but a total perfectionist. They used to rehearse until her feet bled and she was in tears. He would make her carry on until they got it perfect. However, 70 years later, their flawless dancing is still enchanting those who see their films. (Just like Jayne and Chris's performances do now if you are lucky enough to see them on video.)

Thanks for that Sparklebabe.
I can understand why they were so stressed and that occasionally it must all bubble over but that was really nasty of him!
Ah well, they're still best mates so obviously neither of them bear grudges

Really, really looking forward to seeing what amazing routine they're got in store for us tonight!

i know what u mean, ive often thought that they woud be a great couple its a shame they never married since theyre clearly very close

does anyone have a clip of the documentary where chris is mean to jayne or know where i can watch it since id rlly like to see it having never done so before. thankees

You may be able to find it on Ebay. Im sure it was released on video. Its great not just for that argument, but it gave a real interesting behind the scenes look into their lives. We saw them at home with their other halves, sitting in on the recording for Lets Face the Music and Chris receiving an honoury degree from somewhere(may be Uni of Nottingham)

thanks thats rly useful id love to see what general rehearsing was like for them and what it involved

I was only a baby when they won Gold in 84 but remember being in awe of them as a kid when they made their come back for 94. They are simply the best and a joy to watch. And all the more credit to Jayne if she is out doing that and she doesnt skate that often anymore. Says alot for the two of them.

Mixed feelings for me come Saturday. Delighted that Stefan is on the finals & hopefully taking the title but.......will be gutted that it'll be the last time I'll see Torvill & Dean!

There really must be a dvd out for all the performances of T & D on Dancing On Ice & combined those with their performances in the 80's, that will just be the most fantastic buy of all...for me anyway!