DS Forums

 
 

Daily Mail Wed 8th Feb - Shayne To Quit X-Factor Tour?


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-02-2006, 10:49
Gillypoots
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 5,093

As ever the Daily Mail can be relied upon to spread doom and gloom!

On page 21 of today's edition there is a small article regarding the forthcoming X-Factor Tour.

According to their 'Showbusiness Reporter' Clemmine Moodie, Louis Walsh is trying desperately to pull Shayne Ward out of the tour because of the poor ticket sales. While the rest of the contestants are all happy to perform at the various venues, Louis is keen to distance Shayne from the ITV reality show.

An 'industry insider' is quoted as saying that Louis knows that he will be sued to hell and back if he negates on the tour contract, but he is desperate to disassociate Shayne from the show. Also, according this 'insider' only six dates have sold out and that one of the most poorly attended arenas is London's Hammersmith Apollo theatre, which has whole blocks of seating still available for three out of four gigs. Manchester MEN, Birmingham NEC, Nottingham Arenas and Hammersmith Apollo will all apparently be partitioned - significantly reducing the capacity of each stadium.

When a tour spokesman was contacted about this, he rubbished the report saying that 180,000 tickets had been sold and that there were no problems. He also said Shayne was still due to headline.

This seems very strange to me, as I gained the impression that ticket sales were healthy, given that extra shows were being added to the tour. I also know of people who had wanted to go to shows in some areas, but couldn't buy tickets!

Is this likely to have an element of truth? Or is it just another instance of over-inventive journalism at work?
Gillypoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 08-02-2006, 11:13
Yma
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 629
If this is anything to go by I'm not surprised there are tickets left ! -

http://www.splendidtickets.com/tickets.php/ticket/631
Yma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 11:20
geraniums
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: London
Posts: 50,250
Originally Posted by Gillypoots
...........When a tour spokesman was contacted about this, he rubbished the report saying that 180,000 tickets had been sold and that there were no problems. He also said Shayne was still due to headline....................

Is this likely to have an element of truth? Or is it just another instance of over-inventive journalism at work?

You missed out that Louis said Shayne would be performing and that he had then added: "180,000 tickets have been sold and to say there is any problem is rubbish."
geraniums is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 11:50
moogester
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 15,042
Sounds like media hype from Louis again to me Didn't new dates get added because the first ones sold out so quickly??
moogester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 12:48
MJS
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,044
Sounds like a load of claptrap to me - that or LW is desperate for more publicity. How can they have an X factor tour without the winner, and as for trying to distance Shayne Ward from X factor - well that's where he came from - only time will possibly make a difference!
MJS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 12:59
welwynrose
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Welwyn Garden City
Posts: 29,551
so at the moments there's what 15 dates on the X factor tour and a 180,000 tickets sold so thats 12,000 per date - so whats the capacity of each venue?
welwynrose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 14:20
Susann
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 30,316
Originally Posted by Yma
If this is anything to go by I'm not surprised there are tickets left ! -

http://www.splendidtickets.com/tickets.php/ticket/631
That is totally disgusting prices. Simon Cowell makes enough money without trying to rip people off on the tickets. Not trying to pigeon hole, but most Shayne fans are youngsters, you only have to go to Shaynes website to see this. And youngsters cannot afford those prices. And the majority of them will want to go
Susann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 14:27
Susann
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 30,316
Originally Posted by Gillypoots
As ever the Daily Mail can be relied upon to spread doom and gloom!

On page 21 of today's edition there is a small article regarding the forthcoming X-Factor Tour.

According to their 'Showbusiness Reporter' Clemmine Moodie, Louis Walsh is trying desperately to pull Shayne Ward out of the tour because of the poor ticket sales. While the rest of the contestants are all happy to perform at the various venues, Louis is keen to distance Shayne from the ITV reality show.

An 'industry insider' is quoted as saying that Louis knows that he will be sued to hell and back if he negates on the tour contract, but he is desperate to disassociate Shayne from the show. Also, according this 'insider' only six dates have sold out and that one of the most poorly attended arenas is London's Hammersmith Apollo theatre, which has whole blocks of seating still available for three out of four gigs. Manchester MEN, Birmingham NEC, Nottingham Arenas and Hammersmith Apollo will all apparently be partitioned - significantly reducing the capacity of each stadium.

When a tour spokesman was contacted about this, he rubbished the report saying that 180,000 tickets had been sold and that there were no problems. He also said Shayne was still due to headline.

This seems very strange to me, as I gained the impression that ticket sales were healthy, given that extra shows were being added to the tour. I also know of people who had wanted to go to shows in some areas, but couldn't buy tickets!

Is this likely to have an element of truth? Or is it just another instance of over-inventive journalism at work?
Papers do print rubbish a lot of the time. However the Mail has been one that usually gets a bit of what it prints correct, they are one of the papers that stick nearer to the truth.

When ever the papers have printed stuff up about Steve in the past. A fair bit of what the Mail printed was later found to hold substance, mostly truths in with the untruths. They are also not quite so brutal in their reporting as say the Sun, Daily Star or Mirror.
Susann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 14:34
moogester
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 15,042
Originally Posted by Susann
Papers do print rubbish a lot of the time. However the Mail has been one that usually gets a bit of what it prints correct, they are one of the papers that stick nearer to the truth.

When ever the papers have printed stuff up about Steve in the past. A fair bit of what the Mail printed was later found to hold substance, mostly truths in with the untruths. They are also not quite so brutal in their reporting as say the Sun, Daily Star or Mirror.
I thought that too Susan, I don't believe for a second that Shayne won't appear on the tour, but I do believe Louis wants to distance Shayne from the XF. There have been too many rumours over the past few days in the press regarding appearance fees, throat nodules, etc. Louis does need to go careful though or he may find he's alienating Shayne's core fan base
moogester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 14:37
sybil
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 320
Originally Posted by Susann
Papers do print rubbish a lot of the time. However the Mail has been one that usually gets a bit of what it prints correct, they are one of the papers that stick nearer to the truth.

When ever the papers have printed stuff up about Steve in the past. A fair bit of what the Mail printed was later found to hold substance, mostly truths in with the untruths. They are also not quite so brutal in their reporting as say the Sun, Daily Star or Mirror.
That's not my experience. They are often very fabricated. They just write in longer sentences than the Star etc so it feels more authoritative.

That is totally disgusting prices. Simon Cowell makes enough money without trying to rip people off on the tickets. Not trying to pigeon hole, but most Shayne fans are youngsters, you only have to go to Shaynes website to see this. And youngsters cannot afford those prices. And the majority of them will want to go
These are from an agent rather than from the main box office - where they are around £25
sybil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 14:43
Gillypoots
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 5,093
Originally Posted by geraniums
You missed out that Louis said Shayne would be performing and that he had then added: "180,000 tickets have been sold and to say there is any problem is rubbish."
Hi Geraniums. Are you referring to something in the article or has Louis previously said that? The Mail did only refer to a spokesperson and didn't name Louis as the source.
Gillypoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 14:53
windstone
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,335
[quote=sybil]That's not my experience. They are often very fabricated. They just write in longer sentences than the Star etc so it feels more authoritative.



Very true, the Mail tries to sell its self as a "serious" newspaper when its actually no better than The Star or The Sun. And its views can be so right wing it frothes at the mouth about asylum seekers, gays, etc etc
windstone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 15:03
Gillypoots
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 5,093
Of course another point of view regarding ticket sales is the quantities taken by the likes of Ticket Master and similar companies.

On paper that looks great, the problems only start to emerge when they send unsold seats back near to the date of a concert. I have been to big concerts in the past that were supposedly 'sell out gigs' but if you looked around the arena, there were sections of empty seats that these companies had snapped up, but not sold.
Gillypoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 15:12
Mykonos
 
Posts: n/a
Here is another article on the same topic.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/music/...e=Daily%20Mail
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 15:26
Gillypoots
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 5,093
Originally Posted by fannianni
Here is another article on the same topic.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/music/...e=Daily%20Mail
It's actually the self same article that the Daily Mail printed.

My question is - why start off by reducing the arena space, only to add dates and do the same thing all over again, and on top of that have loads of empty seating even so?

Surely if all this was true it would have been a better option to sell the complete arena seating at each venue in one go.
Gillypoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 15:42
reggiebabe
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Earby
Posts: 482
Originally Posted by Susann
That is totally disgusting prices. Simon Cowell makes enough money without trying to rip people off on the tickets. Not trying to pigeon hole, but most Shayne fans are youngsters, you only have to go to Shaynes website to see this. And youngsters cannot afford those prices. And the majority of them will want to go
Yeah you do realise they are touts selling them.

The real price of the tickets are £24.50.
reggiebabe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 15:50
Sparrow7
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 2,949
Shayne has posted on his website, saying that these rumours are untrue, and that he will be at the tour.

It would have been a bit of a travesty, anyhow, if the winner didn't show up.
Sparrow7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 16:21
welwynrose
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Welwyn Garden City
Posts: 29,551
all goes to stir interest in the tour - don't they say that any publicity is good publicity
welwynrose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2006, 16:28
media
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,597
Originally Posted by welwynrose
don't they say that any publicity is good publicity
Louis Walsh says that all the time.
media is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 09:57
geraniums
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: London
Posts: 50,250
I think this is just publicity for the tour. Louis Walsh is an expert at generating Media interest.
geraniums is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 11:05
Yma
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 629
Originally Posted by reggiebabe
Yeah you do realise they are touts selling them.

The real price of the tickets are £24.50.
There are quite a number of websites selling tickets at big concerts at very inflated prices. The point is that they seem to be able to get blocks of good seats before the fans have a chance to book. I spent hours trying to book decent seats-presale- for the next G4 tour but couldn't get through to the venues I wanted. By the time I did there were only average seats left but there are much better seats to be had if you want to pay big prices. That is what needs stopping - it is not fair to the fans - but how can it be altered?
Yma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 11:31
Mark_E
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
Posts: 1,998
There are quite a number of websites selling tickets at big concerts at very inflated prices. The point is that they seem to be able to get blocks of good seats before the fans have a chance to book. I spent hours trying to book decent seats-presale- for the next G4 tour but couldn't get through to the venues I wanted. By the time I did there were only average seats left but there are much better seats to be had if you want to pay big prices. That is what needs stopping - it is not fair to the fans - but how can it be altered?
I can't even find any seats for G4 in Newcastle city hall. Left it too late
Mark_E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 11:51
geraniums
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: London
Posts: 50,250
Originally Posted by Mark_E
I can't even find any seats for G4 in Newcastle city hall. Left it too late
Just checked - there are tickets being sold for the Newcastle concert on ebay at the moment.
geraniums is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 12:19
Yma
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 629
Originally Posted by Mark_E
I can't even find any seats for G4 in Newcastle city hall. Left it too late
May be lucky here -

http://www.ticketswitch.com/tickets/...Upon-Tyne.html
Yma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 15:38
Susann
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 30,316
Originally Posted by reggiebabe
Yeah you do realise they are touts selling them.

The real price of the tickets are £24.50.

If that's the case. How on earth do they get away with it Why has there never been any crackdown on this sort of thing going on. Those prices are unbelieveable
Susann is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 18:47.