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It's all official about Kathy Hills in EE SPOILER WARNING
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SteveHunter
14-02-2006
Ian Beale hears news that she dies in a car crash just as I predicted it would be a car crash before even reading the spoilers.

Even her husband ex-husband Pete Beale died in a car crash and it was also off-screen. Only diffrence was Pete's death in the car crash was pre-arranged for his involvement with a woman called Rose Chapman.

Sad that another EE original character has died and that too off-screen. Only originals left wo were in first episode are from Ian and Pauline and Nick Cotton if he ever returns and of course Sharon.
Hippyste
14-02-2006
Ali and Sue Osman are still alive. As is Punk Mary.

An original character has died every year for the last four years now: Angie, Den, Mark and now Kathy. Stop this pointless slaughter producers!
SteveHunter
14-02-2006
It's unlikely that Ali and Sue Osman would ever return to EE even though they are still alive.

Yeah I compleletely agree about the producers are slaughtering all the original characters and most of them have been off-screen.

Pete Beale in 1993, Angie Watts in 2002, Mark Fowler in 2004 and now Kathy joins the list in 2006.
Mykonos
14-02-2006
Its harsh to shut the door on a wonderful actress.There could easily have been a storyline without 'killing her off'.
Simon Jackson
14-02-2006
What's wrong with an off screen death
TakeDown247
14-02-2006
The funeral could be off screen as well as Kathy lives miles away,
Alot of people will be upset to hear about Kathy in the square,
wonder what will happen to her son Ben?
SteveHunter
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by Simon Jackson:
“What's wrong with an off screen death”

Off-screen deaths are the worst way for a character to die. I would rather see them die on screen instead.
Mykonos
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by Simon Jackson:
“What's wrong with an off screen death”

It means that a character can never return.I thought that was fairly obvious.
Simon Jackson
14-02-2006
But that's life, People can't die in Walford or London all the time.
JPS Corrie King
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by TakeDown247:
“The funeral could be off screen as well as Kathy lives miles away,
Alot of people will be upset to hear about Kathy in the square,
wonder what will happen to her son Ben?”

Its obvious isn't it? The whole reason for killing Kathy is for Phil to get his son back

Since when is Kathys surname Hills?
SteveHunter
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by JPS Corrie King:
“Its obvious isn't it? The whole reason for killing Kathy is for Phil to get his son back

Since when is Kathys surname Hills?”

That was her orginal name before becoming a beale, then mitchell and then that guy in south africa she married
TakeDown247
14-02-2006
[quote=JPS Corrie King]Its obvious isn't it? The whole reason for killing Kathy is for Phil to get his son back QUOTE]

Hmmm now I see but what about Ben's stepdad or even Ian?
SteveHunter
14-02-2006
[quote=TakeDown247]
Originally Posted by JPS Corrie King:
“Its obvious isn't it? The whole reason for killing Kathy is for Phil to get his son back QUOTE]

Hmmm now I see but what about Ben's stepdad or even Ian?”

Ben's stepdad probably won't want him so Ben comes to Walford and there is custody battle for him by Ian and phil and it's obvious who wins
Mykonos
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by JPS Corrie King:
“Its obvious isn't it? The whole reason for killing Kathy is for Phil to get his son back

Since when is Kathys surname Hills?”

I disagree.He could be with Phil for loads of other reasons so I dispute that it is obvious.

To me the only obvious fact is that a fabulous actress will never get the chance to return to EEs in the future.
SteveHunter
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by fannianni:
“I disagree.He could be with Phil for loads of other reasons so I dispute that it is obvious.

To me the only obvious fact is that a fabulous actress will never get the chance to return to EEs in the future.”

But Kathy's death is the reason Ben reunites with Phil. that is why Kathy is being killed off which is a stupid idea because Ben can be with phil in many other ways.
Sir Davis
14-02-2006
Lack of imagination by the tits in charge of EE? Never!

But seriously it is so short sighted, it's not even going to draw a big storyline, just rehashing the same old bollocks between Ian and Phil.
Streetcars
14-02-2006
Gillian Taylforth still has a job with Footballers Wives. What more does she want?
nanamoan
14-02-2006
[quote=irfan2088]
Originally Posted by TakeDown247:
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Ben's stepdad probably won't want him
so Ben comes to Walford and there is custody battle for him by Ian and phil and it's obvious who wins”

What a stupid comment, obviously in line for a script writing job on EE .. why on earth would the boys full time stepfather who has taken on the full role of father for virtually all his life not take full custody of him automatically? To me it just stinks of bringing up more stupid toilet chain pulling "bullying humour" between Phil and Ian, who appears to have so many children he forgets all about them (ie Baby Bobby). We all know it will kick off another stupid battle between the two of them, and then which ever one will get the kid still wont have to deal with the everyday worries of expense, childcare and parental responsibility - look at Ian just going off to South Africa without even telling Jane who he is assuming will look after his kids - and he hasnt even mentioned Steven who went off to Australia or where ever since he left - mmmmm caring!
Steven G
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by Streetcars:
“Gillian Taylforth still has a job with Footballers Wives. What more does she want?”


I agree.

Jesus it's not as if she wanted to return to EastEnders because she never did or would have.
AdamArmand
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by Streetcars:
“Gillian Taylforth still has a job with Footballers Wives. What more does she want?”

Streetcars, what a foolish thing to say. In case you missed it, Kathy is a LEGACY character, that means its an insult to long time fans to kill her off offsecreen, as she is a pivotal character in the show's history, they are cutting off a lot of potential story by killing her off screen.
Pansiks
14-02-2006
[quote=nanamoan]
Originally Posted by irfan2088:
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What a stupid comment, obviously in line for a script writing job on EE .. why on earth would the boys full time stepfather who has taken on the full role of father for virtually all his life not take full custody of him automatically? To me it just stinks of bringing up more stupid toilet chain pulling "bullying humour" between Phil and Ian, who appears to have so many children he forgets all about them (ie Baby Bobby). We all know it will kick off another stupid battle between the two of them, and then which ever one will get the kid still wont have to deal with the everyday worries of expense, childcare and parental responsibility - look at Ian just going off to South Africa without even telling Jane who he is assuming will look after his kids - and he hasnt even mentioned Steven who went off to Australia or where ever since he left - mmmmm caring!”

I'm sorry but Ben's stepdad did not adopt Ben and with Phil and Ian around it's unlikely that Ben will stay with his stepdad especially with Phil knowing that Kathy is dead. Phil will pull out all the stops to get Ben back in Walford. Ben COULD stay with his stepdad in a situation like this but as I've said it's unlikely that Phil would let him anyways.
Streetcars
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by AdamArmand:
“Streetcars, what a foolish thing to say. In case you missed it, Kathy is a LEGACY character, that means its an insult to long time fans to kill her off offsecreen, as she is a pivotal character in the show's history, they are cutting off a lot of potential story by killing her off screen.”

I am a legacy in my own way, but if I was to leave my job, I wouldn't expect them to have me back whenever I felt like it.
Pansiks
14-02-2006
Originally Posted by Steven G:
“I agree.

Jesus it's not as if she wanted to return to EastEnders because she never did or would have.”

She would have returned eventually but she was asked back a couple of times and she did say no, you can't really blame her but she can't keep the EastEnders bosses hanging on until she is ready to come back.
nanamoan
14-02-2006
[quote=Pansiks]
Originally Posted by nanamoan:
“I'm sorry but Ben's stepdad did not adopt Ben and with Phil and Ian around it's unlikely that Ben will stay with his stepdad especially with Phil knowing that Kathy is dead. Phil will pull out all the stops to get Ben back in Walford. Ben COULD stay with his stepdad in a situation like this but as I've said it's unlikely that Phil would let him anyways.”

This is wrong - PHil is a criminal he would not get custody, Ian is his halfbrother, he has hundred of children he dont bother with anyway and it would be very unlikely in view of the fact that the child has lived with the stepdad in a different country with different rules governing it to the UK that he would be randomly sent over here to live because his mother has died,. Pansiks I dont know what your obsession is with criticising all my comments on here but its starting to wind me up
Pansiks
14-02-2006
[quote=nanamoan]
Originally Posted by Pansiks:
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This is wrong - PHil is a criminal he would not get custody, Ian is his halfbrother, he has hundred of children he dont bother with anyway and it would be very unlikely in view of the fact that the child has lived with the stepdad in a different country with different rules governing it to the UK that he would be randomly sent over here to live because his mother has died,. Pansiks I dont know what your obsession is with criticising all my comments on here but its starting to wind me up ”

I'm not criticising your comments atall I'm just debating them. Your comments all seem to be picking holes in EastEnders like you seem to forget that it's a soap opera so when I debate alternative scenarios with you I'm not criticising you personally or your comments. I didn't realise that it was so serious and personal on here.
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