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Corrie 15/2/06 Emily has to deal with Ed's shock
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Streetcars
16-02-2006
Originally Posted by BakersOven:
“The ghost of Ernest Bishop has been very much part of Corrie since his 1978 demise and obviously it has played a major role in who Emily is.

I am not very happy this classic tale has been dredged up again in such a sensationalist fashion.

Ok on one hand I can appreciate the whole god thing and Emily in a pickle about what to do. But I just think the storyline was so much better off as part of the shows fabric and part of Emilys character. I now feel something has been taken away.

I would especially now hate to see Ed as a permanent fixture on the show. Emily interacting with him like hes a usual resident.

I just don't like it. I would of preferred a character driven storyline where Emily heard he was released and deals with her feelings.

I always knew when guns were mentioned or something horrid happened in the show that Emily would grimace. We all knew why. It was always subtle and never in your face and I loved that.

I'm not sure why Corrie has become all retrospective. Rita recently mentioning Alan, Hillman and now this.

I love Emily but this storyline doesnt feel right.”

I think they're doing quite a good job actually
Hippyste
16-02-2006
Is Ed the Ripper played by the same dude?
Roland butter
16-02-2006
sorry if this has been mentioned before but who is this woman that david keeps bumping into. is it possibly a relative of dicky hillman ?
HellBoy
16-02-2006
Originally Posted by Roland butter:
“sorry if this has been mentioned before but who is this woman that david keeps bumping into. is it possibly a relative of dicky hillman ? ”

could be but I want it to be Phill!!!
Roland butter
16-02-2006
its not going to be nessie
Live82005
16-02-2006
Originally Posted by Caramel:
“For someone of Betty's era, I suspect she was referring to her bottom being pinched.”

Ahh, of course, that would be it. I was a bit taken aback by it that my mind started wondering...
Live82005
16-02-2006
Originally Posted by Roland butter:
“sorry if this has been mentioned before but who is this woman that david keeps bumping into. is it possibly a relative of dicky hillman ? ”

I was hoping they'd pick a better actor/actress to be involved in that storyline. She isn't exactly the best, even David can act her off the screen.
Lippincote
16-02-2006
Re Bakersoven's post - I know what you mean, but I don't agree with you that 'something has been taken away'. I think it is fantastic that we are seeing how that event 28 years ago completely changed the course of Emily's life, and she is now looking back and reliving her loss from that distance. It is being beautifully written and played.

I doubt Ed will be a permanent fixture - as you say, I don't see how that could work.

I see this current 'retrospective' in the same light as the return of Ray last year, which I thought was brilliantly done. It was my favourite storyline of 2005.

It is great to be reminded of the characters' histories, it is something I love about Corrie.

And since Corrie has such a wealth of oldies, it makes sense that their past should be a part of the current shows. Emily and Rita are both haunted by events in their past, and it is good to be (dramatically) reminded of this.
windstone
16-02-2006
[quote=Pansiks], the most unconvincing transexual Hayley






I agree, I could never understand why Hayley's part wasn't given to a genuine transsexual. There must be transsexual actors around....
Caramel
16-02-2006
Originally Posted by Lippincote:
“Re Bakersoven's post - I know what you mean, but I don't agree with you that 'something has been taken away'. I think it is fantastic that we are seeing how that event 28 years ago completely changed the course of Emily's life, and she is now looking back and reliving her loss from that distance. It is being beautifully written and played.

I doubt Ed will be a permanent fixture - as you say, I don't see how that could work.

I see this current 'retrospective' in the same light as the return of Ray last year, which I thought was brilliantly done. It was my favourite storyline of 2005.

It is great to be reminded of the characters' histories, it is something I love about Corrie.

And since Corrie has such a wealth of oldies, it makes sense that their past should be a part of the current shows. Emily and Rita are both haunted by events in their past, and it is good to be (dramatically) reminded of this.”

I think the current story with Emily and Ed is certainly credible, and it has been well written. It is good that Corrie can go back to its past for some of its current storylines; every time they have done this it has worked well.

The return of Ray last year was brilliant; the scenes with him and Deidre making their peace in the back yard, were some of the best I have ever seen in a soap; they brought tears to my eyes.
Roan
16-02-2006
Originally Posted by Caramel:
“I think the current story with Emily and Ed is certainly credible, and it has been well written. It is good that Corrie can go back to its past for some of its current storylines; every time they have done this it has worked well.

The return of Ray last year was brilliant; the scenes with him and Deidre making their peace in the back yard, were some of the best I have ever seen in a soap; they brought tears to my eyes.”


I totally agee. You can't forget the past of the long serving soap stars, and when well written like this latest story involving Emily, just shows what a good actress Eileen Derbyshire is and that these established characters must be used more than they sometimes have over the past couple of years.
Bonze
16-02-2006
Originally Posted by windstone:
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Originally Posted by Pansiks:
“, the most unconvincing transexual Hayley”

I agree, I could never understand why Hayley's part wasn't given to a genuine transsexual. There must be transsexual actors around....”

Why do you find Hayley unconvincing?
Streetcars
16-02-2006
Originally Posted by Bonze:
“Why do you find Hayley unconvincing?”

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locaputa
17-02-2006
ok episode... Emily didn't seem to know her lines, nor speak them.
Bonze
17-02-2006
Originally Posted by locaputa:
“ok episode... Emily didn't seem to know her lines, nor speak them.”

So who was speaking them?
could of sworn her mouth was moving
Elsie Tanner
17-02-2006
Originally Posted by BakersOven:
“The ghost of Ernest Bishop has been very much part of Corrie since his 1978 demise and obviously it has played a major role in who Emily is.

I am not very happy this classic tale has been dredged up again in such a sensationalist fashion.

Ok on one hand I can appreciate the whole god thing and Emily in a pickle about what to do. But I just think the storyline was so much better off as part of the shows fabric and part of Emilys character. I now feel something has been taken away.

I would especially now hate to see Ed as a permanent fixture on the show. Emily interacting with him like hes a usual resident.

I just don't like it. I would of preferred a character driven storyline where Emily heard he was released and deals with her feelings.

I always knew when guns were mentioned or something horrid happened in the show that Emily would grimace. We all knew why. It was always subtle and never in your face and I loved that.

I'm not sure why Corrie has become all retrospective. Rita recently mentioning Alan, Hillman and now this.

I love Emily but this storyline doesnt feel right.”

I understand exactly what you are saying, and to some extent I agree with you wholly, however Ernest's death was such a defining moment for the character of Emily that I don't see why it shouldn't be explored, even 28 years later. Emily has nearly almost always made some reference to Ernest in everything she has done. After her fated marriage to bigamist Arnold Swain in 1980 the first thing she did was replace Arnold's ring with Ernest's, realising what a fool she'd been.

As Lippincote said, Coronation Street has such a rich and extensive history and I think that the writers and producers are entirely right to make the most of this. It is nearly always argued that the older members of the Coronation Street cast "don't do enough", and if we are to haul them from the doldrums of comedicstorylines, it is only natural that a character's is addressed and analysed. It is impossible to expect Rita to be the victim of such an alarming break-in and subsequent offensive without making reference to Alan Bradley.

Having said this, I do agree that perhaps Emily's history didn't really need to be brought to a head so staggeringly. The sublte nuances of the character are far more deep-reaching that raking Ernest's death over so much.
Corrie_Lurker
17-02-2006
I think it is a great storyline - very thought provoking. It brings up issues of forgiveness and our justice system and how it works. Do criminals really pay for their crimes, etc.
Jezebelle512p
17-02-2006
What's fantastic is that it's the continuance of a storyline that happened over 20 years ago and furthermore the actress involved is still in the soap
mikebuk
17-02-2006
[quote=windstone]
Originally Posted by Pansiks:
“, the most unconvincing transexual Hayley






I agree, I could never understand why Hayley's part wasn't given to a genuine transsexual. There must be transsexual actors around....”


Not many, odd says there maybe the occasional one. Question is, how many transexuals do you know to compare ?

Did anyone see Lauren Harries on Terry Wogan's UKTV Gold show last night ?

She used to be the very posh little lad who was the antiques expert, back in the 80s.

Unfortunately, without tryingto diss Lauren too much, she acts like a drag queen, as opposed to a transexual.
lumpbottom
17-02-2006
[quote=windstone]
Originally Posted by Pansiks:
“, the most unconvincing transexual Hayley






I agree, I could never understand why Hayley's part wasn't given to a genuine transsexual. There must be transsexual actors around....”

Er, Nadia from BB? Doubt if Roy could handle her!

Anyone know if Liz Dawn is OK now?
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