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Old 22-02-2006, 11:39
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I was just wondering what FM's thought of Eileen restarting her relationship with Ed, after finding out about him murdering Emily's husband Ernest.

Is it fair on Emily to see Ed around the street, even though all this time has passed?

Has Emily any right to tell Eileen not to see him?

How will Eileen cope with other people on the Street if she continues the relationship?
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Old 22-02-2006, 11:40
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I hope Eileen sticks with Ed, she derseves Romance in her life !

And, like she said, people can change.....
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Old 22-02-2006, 11:42
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It's far more interesting, plot-wise, if she tries to make the relationship work. If she dumped him that would be the end of the story.
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Old 22-02-2006, 14:11
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Originally Posted by clover
It's far more interesting, plot-wise, if she tries to make the relationship work. If she dumped him that would be the end of the story.
I agree, I think Eileen deserves some hapiness and Sue Cleaver is an excellant actress and its about time the Corrie bosses gave her such a good storyline to get her teeth into.

I can't see many of the streets residents, particularly the older ones being very sympathetic with Eileen and I forsee trouble for her ahead.
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Old 22-02-2006, 14:24
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Yeah I think she should, he's tried to change.
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Old 22-02-2006, 14:40
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If it was real life I would like Eileen to find happiness with Ed but the only way would be for them to leave Weatherfield.

As it's a soap, I like the way it's being written and the reactions of the older cast who were around when the robbery happened is very realistic. I can't remember seeing reactions of the younger cast members or older but not there for example Steve and his mum Liz came in after the shooting so it wouldn't mean so much to them as Rita, Betty, Mike who were there.

I love the way Emily is reacting, she so often comes across as a wishy-washy forgive everybody everything person so it's wonderful watching her struggle with her religion versus her emotions.

I wandered off the topic title there a bit.
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Old 22-02-2006, 14:50
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I think Eileen will stay with Ed, which will give more mileage to this story, which it certainly deserves. In time, Eileen may be instrumental in changing Emily's mind on forgiving Ed.

I think this is a superb story, involving the older characters; and calling on the soap's heritage, has given an added element.

Eileen has certainly been patient in getting her teeth into a good story and now she's got it, she's doing brilliantly!
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Old 22-02-2006, 14:52
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I aint sure on this one. I think it wrong to stay with someone whos killed a friends husband.
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Old 22-02-2006, 14:56
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In real life Eileen would probably move away with Ed and start again where no one knows his history.
I can't see the relationship lasting which is a shame as poor Eileen deserves a bit of happiness and the actress deserves more decent story lines!
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Old 22-02-2006, 15:53
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Ed didn't kill Ernest in cold blood. He did a stupid thing and has paid the price. I'm all for being hard on criminals and am of the opinion that most couldn't care less about their victims or about being rehabilitated but rehabilitation programs are worth it even if it means just one person realises what they have done and changes their way of life. Ed has obviously turned his life around and only wants to do good too Emily... I'm not sure if it's a very good decision to attempt to do it the way he has but perhaps it would give her closure if she knows it was a terrible accident and her husband wasn't murdered in cold blood. If she's as Christian as she makes out she would know her husband is waiting for her in a better place.
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Old 22-02-2006, 15:58
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only if we can have a "fun" NEW Ed......this ones dire!! so very wooden
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Old 22-02-2006, 16:30
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Originally Posted by Caramel
I think Eileen will stay with Ed
Sorry, Caramel......

Corrie star awaits mail over Ernest murder (Manchester Online, 4th paragraph from the end)

xx Joanna xx
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Old 22-02-2006, 17:31
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No, I don't think so. You just don't go out with an ex-killer, especially if it involves a friend! Eileen wants to go and find someone more suitable, she's too desperate.
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Old 22-02-2006, 17:47
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Originally Posted by PhilT81
Ed didn't kill Ernest in cold blood. He did a stupid thing and has paid the price. I'm all for being hard on criminals and am of the opinion that most couldn't care less about their victims or about being rehabilitated but rehabilitation programs are worth it even if it means just one person realises what they have done and changes their way of life. Ed has obviously turned his life around and only wants to do good too Emily... I'm not sure if it's a very good decision to attempt to do it the way he has but perhaps it would give her closure if she knows it was a terrible accident and her husband wasn't murdered in cold blood. If she's as Christian as she makes out she would know her husband is waiting for her in a better place.
He decided in cold blood to take a gun with him. Whether or not he shot Ernest in cold blood is therefore irrelevant. So where does the accident come in? He didn't acidentally pick up a gun, he didn't accidentally point it at Ernest. He made a considered decision.

Why would Emily want closure, 28years later? As far as she was concerned, he was still in prison paying for his crime. That would have given her closure, knowing he was paying with his imprisonment.

What closure is she going to have now, knowing that he is a couple of doors away playing happy families with Eileen?

So far as I can see he only wants absolution for himself without any regard for Emily's feelings, at all.

I can understand that he would feel regret for what he has done and would want to make reparation. But after seeing that Emily was settled in her life and happy, why would he pull the rug out from under her feet by admitting he killed Ernest?

The best thing that he could have done was to walk away when he saw that Emily was happy.

If Eileen does stay with a man who has already deceived her she is more stupid than she looks, and should definitely move away from the streeet to avoid causing any more pain to Emily.
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Old 22-02-2006, 18:56
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Something I've been wondering about ... until Ed came on the scene how much time did Eileen spend with Emily? I don't remember any social interaction between Emily and Eileen before Ed started chatting up Eileen which was little more than a few weeks ago. So it is only very recently that Emily began including Eileen in her social circle.

I would say that Eileen and Emily were little more than acquaintances on nodding terms who happen to live in the same street and happen to both go to the same pub. This doesn't make them "best friends".

If Eileen and Emily had been "best friends" for several years it would be different but I don't think Eileen "owes" Emily loyalty. Eileen needs to decide if she wants to be with a man who has killed another human being. It looks as though she does which is an indication on her sense of right or wrong but has nothing to do with her "friendship" with Emily.
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Old 23-02-2006, 23:28
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Originally Posted by Thumbolina
Something I've been wondering about ... until Ed came on the scene how much time did Eileen spend with Emily? I don't remember any social interaction between Emily and Eileen before Ed started chatting up Eileen which was little more than a few weeks ago. So it is only very recently that Emily began including Eileen in her social circle.

I would say that Eileen and Emily were little more than acquaintances on nodding terms who happen to live in the same street and happen to both go to the same pub. This doesn't make them "best friends".

If Eileen and Emily had been "best friends" for several years it would be different but I don't think Eileen "owes" Emily loyalty. Eileen needs to decide if she wants to be with a man who has killed another human being. It looks as though she does which is an indication on her sense of right or wrong but has nothing to do with her "friendship" with Emily.

A very good point Thumbolina, I think this goes to show how many streets just like Coronation Street have become very impersonal over the years. People used to become very friendly with all their neighbours but now this is not the case. Most people who live on a street such as this don't even know their immediate neighbours.
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Old 23-02-2006, 23:37
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this is a terrific storyline the whole emily/ed/eileen story - all 3 characters have genuine points in how they are going about life and its a telling story and i really hope corrie make it work and play it in the right way. ed does deserve a chance as he has paid for what he has done and its clear he is genuinely sorry. what i don't like is Emily going against her beliefs in society and claiming that ed "deviously" came back into her life - it wasn't as cold-hearted as that but so far this story is going well IMO so ed and eileen should carry on a while longer. however it is very painful when eillen keeps saying to ed "lets go to bed!"
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Old 23-02-2006, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Emperor
this is a terrific storyline the whole emily/ed/eileen story - all 3 characters have genuine points in how they are going about life and its a telling story and i really hope corrie make it work and play it in the right way. ed does deserve a chance as he has paid for what he has done and its clear he is genuinely sorry. what i don't like is Emily going against her beliefs in society and claiming that ed "deviously" came back into her life - it wasn't as cold-hearted as that but so far this story is going well IMO so ed and eileen should carry on a while longer. however it is very painful when eillen keeps saying to ed "lets go to bed!"
I like your thoughts Eileen should forget his past and jump into bed regardless
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Old 23-02-2006, 23:58
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Originally Posted by Roan
I like your thoughts Eileen should forget his past and jump into bed regardless
no, i said its painful for her to keep saying to Ed "lets go to bed!", she should take things much slower tbh, she's being a bit desperate there IMO as you don't just jump into bed with a convicted killer - she should take things slower but i do like the fact that Eileen is trying to forgive Ed and having a go at a relationship
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Old 24-02-2006, 00:02
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Ed's very good-looking I must say
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Old 24-02-2006, 00:05
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no, i said its painful for her to keep saying to Ed "lets go to bed!", she should take things much slower tbh, she's being a bit desperate there IMO as you don't just jump into bed with a convicted killer - she should take things slower but i do like the fact that Eileen is trying to forgive Ed and having a go at a relationship
I think she needs the relationship but wants the physical side also and is struggling between the two.
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Old 24-02-2006, 00:06
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I think she needs the relationship but wants the physical side also and is struggling between the two.
i think your right there! it seems she's forgotten what its like to have a proper relationship and she's so desperate for sex lol
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Old 24-02-2006, 00:14
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i think your right there! it seems she's forgotten what its like to have a proper relationship and she's so desperate for sex lol
I wouldn't say so desperate for sex, but she has fallen for Ed and is struggling with her emotions. Of course sex then becomes a major influence when Ed is concerned for Eileen.
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Old 24-02-2006, 16:29
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I think what was key in this was the episode where Elieen went to Emily's and told her that she still wanted to stay with Ed. Emily's reaction was to bring light to Eileen's "desperation" in trying for a relationship with such a man.

Whereas I can see the possibilities in this for the character of Eileen (and to exert the talents of Sue Cleaver), I strongly believe that Ed has little place on Coronation Street for the long-term. It would be highly unbelievable that the other residents (aswell as Emily) would be able to cope with having Ed around.

There are further sides of this which I would like to see developed, including Jason's reaction to Ed. Also, as the "girls" (Eileen, Deirdre, Frankie & Liz) have been built up very well, I'd like to see how they react to Eileen's relationship with a murderer - especially Deirdre who was around at the time of Ernest's murder, and spent many years sharing Number 3 with Emily. On top of this I feel there is a possibility of a renaissance of Gail & Eileen, especially since Sarah is involved with Jason...and we all know how the Platts feel about murderers.

I don't want this to be a quick-burner, over and forgotten about within a matter of weeks, but as I've explained, I don't think that Ed has any place in the Street on a long-term basis.
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Old 24-02-2006, 18:01
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No murderer should ever get a second chance. They should be thrown out of a helicopter over the Sarara Desert. Failing that they should be locked up for good. There are too many do-gooders preaching rights for criminals. The dead person can never get a second chance. If you kill you should forfeit the right to life yourself.

Anyway, sermon over, back to the story. A lot of people are saying Eileen deserves happiness, but there is no chance of this storyline having a happy ending.
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