Hi,

I've had my 530 for a couple of weeks now. Brilliant machine, I'm really happy with it. But... I thought that with guideplus, you had to tune it to the host channel the very first time, but after that it would find it itself. So far, my machine has *never* changed over to Eurosport. Any ideas? Or do I just have to set the timer to record something on Eurosport every night/morning?

thanks,
Rachel

I don't think it changes over to the host channel to download guideplus.

If you're telling it to get Guide Plus from an external Sky box, it has to change to the host channel. My 630 does - every 3am and 3pm!

Mine doesn't seem to. When I get up in the morning, my 530 is normally displaying EPG... but the skybox is left set to whatever channel it was last on.

Do you know if the EPG's IR system control your skybox in the Editor screen?

Also, it would be helpful if you can provide the info from the EPG's system information screen?

You're not along Rach, it seems to be an issue with the 530. I asked Pioneer If it was known, whether there was a fix etc. last month but didn't get a satisfactory answer (so I've asked it again). They seem to be a bit keen on saying 'that's the way it is'
Inbetween time I put up a quick'n'dirty fix a couple of weeks ago here.

Hi Buelligan,

Basically there seems to be a problem with the IR code or with the identification of your host channel.

To help I need to have the following information (as above):

Can the EPG's IR system control your skybox in the Editor screen?

Provide the info from the EPG's system information screen?

Hi GoodOmens, you from Pioneer then?

Sure Rach will be along with her details but on mine, Yes I can control the channels from the editor screen ie. when I highlight a channel Sky will change to that channel.

Status screen reads:

Guide Plus+ Ver. 1.00/IR 1.114
Country, PC, Host ID UN/SOxx xxx/0011
Host Channel Tuner/0001/ESPRT
Status 1EF/0000/00/0001
Last D/L
Next D/L
# of files
External Reciver AV2/L/Sky DI/326

What's it all mean then?
Last edited by Buelligan : 23-02-2006 at 17:01

For your first question, I am not from Pioneer but I am here to help .

OK, so the problem is that the EPG thinks that the host channel is on the analogue tuner (preset 1), which is bizarre. That is why no IR pulse is being sent to the STB. From an EPG point of view this would be the logical thing to do but obviously for you this is not what you want .

So for the next step. Can you tell me what is the setting for Eurosport in the EPG's editor. Also, what is the setting in the EPG's editor for ITV1?

BTW, do you have an analogue terrestrial feed going into the analogue tuner?

Well, strangely enough, that's exactly what mine says. It did say external when I first set it up ut I noticed a couple of weeks ago it is now saying Tuner. The channel is still Eurosport though, and it still changes the Sky box to Eurosport with no problem. Very odd.

I have no (and have never had any) RF leads connected. I don't have any terrestrial TV reception. Eurosport is listed as external 410 in the EPG.

This is becoming more and more bizarre. I will wait for the response from Buelligan to see what his settings are .

We shall see.

This is what mine (630H-S) actually says:

Settings

External Receiver 1: SKY digital - SKY
DIGITAL - AV2/L1



System Information

GUIDE Plus+ Version: 1.00/IR1.114
Country,PC,Host ID: Un/<my postcode>/0011
Host Channel: Tuner/65521/ESPRT
Status: 1EF/000/00/0001
Last Download: 23-Feb/14:30/119M
Next Download: 24-Feb/03:00/120M
Number of files: 764/0
External Receiver 1: AV2/L/SKYDI/1536

In the EPG, Eurosport is listed as

ESPRT Ext. Rec. 1 P410


I repeat I have no problems with the machine changing the Sky box to 410 and downloading the EPG data from it.

Morning Good Omen, I've noticed before that my setup says the host channel is 001 and not 410 and have been through setup a couple of times to double check my settings haven't changed. ITV is Ext.1 105 and Esprt is Ext. 410 btw.

Oh, same as Chris. No connections other than Sky.

Mine says:

Guide Plus+ Version: 1.03/IR1.115
Country, PC, Host ID: UK/<postcode>/0011
Host Channel: Tuner/0006/ESPRT
Status: 1EF/0015/01/0032
Last Download: 24-Feb/06:30/65M
Next Download: 24-feb/14:30/120M
Number of Files: 588/8
External Receiver 1: AV2/L / SKY DI/ 1536

I have no terrestrial tv. Just Sky. And I can control the box from the Editor page.

Thanks!
Last edited by rach2k : 24-02-2006 at 11:54

Thought I just had a grip on the tuner channel thing after Rachel posted her setup until I read Chris' channel 65521! Isn't the tuner channel from the inital setup? Sky on my system came up as channel 6 (the only thing it found) so I changed it to channel 1 for simplicity. Chris where did you get 65521??

Hi Guys,

Do you have a connection between the Skybox RF out and the RF in of the Pioneer unit?

Don't ask me, I didn't put it in!

Because I have no terrestrial reception, I've never told it anything at all about setting up the tuner side. I'm pretty convinced on first setup it did actually show 0001 in that field (and it said external, not tuner), but God knows where it got 65521 from.

(Being the geek that I am, I notice that 65521 is 65536 minus 15 - both significant numbers in binary... :yawn: )

I'm wondering if that bit of data is superfluous. If the channel name is ESPRT than it gets the External 410 status from that channel in the EPG. Similarly, if it says ITV1 then it gets Tuner 003 from the EPG for that channel.

Or I wonder if it's attempting internal channel "65521" first and then timing out and going to Eurosport?? I notice that my early morning updates are scheduled for 3am but it's still doing EPG when I leave for work around 8am, and I don't think it should take over 5 hours.

I don't. Never have had one.

So basically for anyone who gets the EPG data from sky, the line for the Host channel should read as follows:

Host Channel: Tuner/65521/ESPRT

65521 says that the host channel is on an external source i.e. scart. This information tells the EPG that it MUST blast an IR pulse to the STB.

Also the reason that you see EPG being displayed in the morning is because there is a data download starting at 7:30am.

I might have an RF cable connected ... if I remove it, and reset, will it go to the right channel?

Oh, and my download starts at 6:30.

Oh. So mine's correct then! Which is why mine seems to be the only one that's working! But it still says Tuner??


Are there 2 overnight downloads then, one at 3am and one at 7:30?

My recommendation would be to reset the EPG, by changing the country from the UK and then back again. Then input your postal code and setup the Skybox again.

Ensure that the skybox is connected to the Pioneer unit via Scart and nothing is connected to the tuner.

Place the unit into standby and the EPG message should be displayed after a few minutes. Wait to the message disappears and let me know what you have in the system info screen.

BTW, what channel do you have on preset 6 of the tuner?

preset 6 is set to sky. Oh. Maybe I do have the RF in, now that I think about it. Will give this a try, though.

cheers!

After you have completed the setup, and the EPG knows where it has to find the host channel, you can then replace the connection between the Skybox and Pioneer unit.

Let me know how it goes .

OK Good Omens, so where do you come from?