Alison will join any club that will have her.

If you are that fat you have to be on the defensive about it.... and kinda live in denial and whilst fat make the most of it. But inside every fat person is a thin person wanting to burst out... but slimming is very very hard, and it's easy to put it off until you feel up to it. Like stopping smoking, which is something I need to do! I admire Alison for going public with her dieting, and I'm sure that the extra incentive will help her stick to her programme, so good on her. If it helps others join in and lose weight too, great. You go girl!

She's not an unpleasant person, but she's a phoney.

Quote: " But inside every fat person is a thin person wanting to burst out... "

If you'd have said this on Vanessa's show, she would have condemned you and got the blue rinse brigade to publicly humiliate you for being a man who wants to force your opinions of the feminine ideal projected by the media.

If you said it to Alison, she'd jump on you and break you.

The point I was making is that they both have made an about turn.

A lot of the reasons why people find it hard to lose weight is because we are generally uneducated when it comes to food.
It's hard if you starve yourself, but many people try to latch on to quick fix methods of losing weight. These extreme diets are what make it seem hard, but there's no reason why people can't find out for themselves what needs to be done.

We spoil ourselves, we really do.


p.s. I'm not mentioning the mental illnesses involved here as they are something seperate.

I know! As I said, when you are fat you are on the defensive, of course you are! It's like they say... there is no worse anti-smoker than a stopped smoker - I know! It's easy to jump on ppl when you are fat, but if you lose weight and admit you were wrong, then that's no big deal. Venessa would not have lost weight if her hubby had not walked out on her and made public statements saying he was disgusted by her fat... but keeping it off is the other half of the battle. I know they sound like hypocrites, but you can change your mind!

Yeah, fair point.

By the way, when I said Alison would jump on you, I was speaking literally.

I thought that Vanessa's husband left her after she had lost a lot of the weight?
It was only after she had lost a lot of weight that he was able to escape from her gravitational pull.

as long as alison is doing it to feel better about herself and get healthy all is good. its when she only does it for publicity and to maintain her 'fame' that i dont think its all right

Partly agree; sometimes the results can be good, even if the motives for starting it were not "good".

Of course, if the motivation for doing it isnt particularly strong, ie she is being pushed into it as a publicity thing, etc, then she may not see it through, as it will be quite difficult. For her.
God bless her, and good luck to her though whatever her reasons.

Jack
PS D_G I shall be going all pyschological on you, seeing as you want to do psychology...

And the fact he could get her off!!!!

BigMerv has no thin person on the inside, due to the fact he ate him years ago.

lol.

Is it possible to be a thin person and have a fat person trying to get out?
(Like a tardis sort of effect, maybe)

Very possible

However, don't get on the see-saw with me, as youre likely to be eaten too....

BigMerv has a healthy appetite

Well maybe you should meet up with Alison and her help her out with losing some of that unwanted weight.

If she follows the standard rules, nearly EVERYTHING if we don't know the taste of it,.... tastes of chicken.

Abso-bluddy-lutely.

I've been pretty skinny all my life by as the years whizz by I can definitely feel my body preparing to burst forth around the midriff

Maybe I should?
Though, I don't think I could eat a whole person.

You don't happen to taste of chicken by any chance?

Still on slimming, I'm not sure if this is just me but when I see someone who is really overweight eating a bar of chocolate of eating something like a Big Mac, I automatically think, they shouldn't be eating that... I do feel horrible for thinking that way. However, I met someone years ago eating a couple bars of chocolate and he was really big. I guess the expression on my face told the story but another colleague told me that he is diabetic so now when I see someone that is really fat eating, I think again, that person could have a medical problem...

Everyone has to eat....even fat people.

If you could starve a fat person to death, they would only live a couple more days than anyone else.

If you saw someone eating a Big Mac, then I assume you must have been in McDonalds.....Places like this are the main reason so many people are getting fatter in general. Obesity is a serious problem which, like it or not, is going to be in your face alot more.

What can we do?.....Live with it, or educate younger people not to eat McDs, BK's, KFC's etc..... Start by not using these places yourself....encourage your children to stay clear as well. You may not be fat, but your children will be if you encourage them in these establishments.

I once saw an interesting program about obesity.

They studied identical twins on the basis that they're a great way to rule genetics out of the study. The example that struck me most was two guys, one of whom was a keen runner and very fit and weighed about two thirds as much as his twin who had tried every stupid diet under the sun and to whom exercise was anathema. The basic conclusion was that exercise was the most important factor in determining body fat percentage. The overweight guy came across as being ridiculous because despite the obvious evidence of his twin and the fact that he hated himself for being overweight he just wouldn't take any exercise.

So perhaps we shouldn't say "you are what you eat" but instead say "You are 20% what you eat and 80% what you exercise" - I'll admit it's not as snappy a phrase though

I have to admit I've often used the excuse of doing a bit of exercise to excuse the occasional burger/curry/greasy fry-up! As long as you 'earn it' I figure it's OK

What can I have for dinner then?

If you saw someone eating a Big Mac, then I assume you must have been in McDonalds..... You've assumed wrong I don't like junk food and if I'm hungry McDonalds wouldn't be on my list as a place to eat. People don't necessarily eat the food in the shops... Most of the time they are on public transport hence why one cannot help but to notice

I understand that fat people have to eat but its the type of food which some eat that makes me think.

What can we do?.....Live with it, or educate younger people not to eat McDs, BK's, KFC's etc..... Start by not using these places yourself....encourage your children to stay clear as well. You may not be fat, but your children will be if you encourage them in these establishments. I've never encourage my kids to eat that type of food. Fried chicken, once in a while...

Please read my post carefully, I don't think you quite understand the point I made...

OK I'll hold my hands up....I may have read your post wrong, it's just it really gets my goat when people have a go at someone because they are different....and I don't mean just fat.
Diabetes is a known pitfall for people who are overweight, and if this guy you saw eating 2 bars of chocolate was a diabetic, then it's more than likely it was his overindulgence with chocolate that caused his diabetes. Vicious circle!!!!
The point of my post was, that we need to educate our children to be more carefull with what they eat, and if you are doing that with your children, then I take my hat off to you.
People who are debilitated by obesity should be encouraged to change their lifestyles, most are lonely people with no self esteem, and it is not helped if they are frowned upon for the way they look, or what they eat, as this only serves to make them more guilty of eating.
I may be generalising, but it is a sick world in which we live, and it is not helped by the media.
I don't know if you saw BBLB when Kate had won, and she went to Oxford St. with Alison?
She was complaining that she had put on loads of weight, and had ballooned up to a size 12....and it was said matteroffactly, to Alison, who I'm sure dreamed of being a size 12 instead of a 22!!....I bet she was really concerned for Kate at that moment.

I'm very much a person that believes everyone should hold a high regard for themselves.

I very much believe in myself and I honour myself in that I respect my body and mind. Not just in my appearance but in my thoughs. I also believe you should be the change you want to see in life...

BTW I'm a vegetarian, not a strict one but I do not eat meat of any kind...

Did anyone else see her on This Morning this morning?

It was pretty awful - bursting into extempore moments of song, mugging to the cameras, and not understanding when the real minor celebrities were laughing at/patronising her?

Oh yeah, she ate loads too.

I hope they are paying her very well, because it was quite unpleasant the way they were making use of her craving for publicity.