whether you like him or not why do so many threads revert to the subject of Alex .........remind me again who won........
casting my line out reeling them in......hehe

Kate Won.

Public voted her the victor, you see.

This Forum is Pro-Alex, there are forums which have a pro-Kate slant, just as there are others that are Pro-Jade (porbably full of media-types).

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(porbably full of media-types).

Spelling correction.

The correct spelling is "porkably".

Where are these Pro Kate and Jade forums? Are there any Pro Jonny ones???

Just curious.

Good point - I have seen neither. Which makes me presume that the people who voted for Kate are not necessarily the online community - but those with C4

But hey - she won (the title) - good luck to her.

Only time will tell how famous each of the last 4 become.

Jonny Beat Alex.

It's always been about Alex. Jade, Adele and Spencer occasionally influenced the debate, grabbed the medias's attention, set the agenda etc but not to the same extent.
The other HMs do not really figure in any way unless they feature in an ' Alex ' related issue/debate - for example Jonny in 'weegate', or the ' Kate/Alex romance ', or who is earning the most or will Alex also appear in panto etc etc
From when he first set foot in the House Alex has been the centre of attention and crucial to most of the pertinent debates/issues that have arisen - both inside and outside the House ! His opinions, values, moods, motives, his relationships, his career etc. I am not certain as to why this should be the case. But it is !

1. Because he is Male, and is, crucially good-looking.
Men generally have more visible personalities than women (because they are allowed to get away with more).

2. Most BB viewers are Female. Most showbiz mags are aimed at women. Women like looking at pictures of hunky men, women don't like looking at pics of (other) attractive women (though at the same time self-righteously disdaining scruffiness in their own gender).
It's a fact that because women don't understand men, they are far less critical of them, often projecting their own fantasies onto the favoured male.

3. Alex is fancied by Gay men, who tend to be affluent and eager consumers (the "pink pound").

4. Alex is a model, modeling is closely connected to the media.

Funny, the last 2-3 weeks Jonny was the most discussed HM on here, are you gonna deny this or admit that there was a hatchet job done on him.

I wouldn't have used the term 'discussed'.

Well, yeah, take out the 'scu' and you'd be closer to the treatment Jonny got on here.

Only time will tell - When the difference between 1st and last is an hour or so then it's dwon to the last four to make their fortune. Kate had a £70000 head start and has had sveral 15 second slots on football programs. Jonny is raking in £500 a week with his 30 minute stage time in pant0 - Where are the other two losers?


Irony.

Jonny got what he got - this is not a censored forum in that sense, and there was no rule to be nice to Jonny. If someone is a Jonny 'fan' then they will not like the criticism... but is it just coincidence that this and other forums reflected the fact that Jonny was just unpopular. There are probably good reasons why he won the GBP vote for second place, but for a lot of forum members who watched a lot of BB not just the edits on C4, Jonny seriously came across as an arsehole. If you didn't like Alex you'd have had the same opinion. Fair enough. If you wanted to hear lots of nice things about Jonny then you needed to find a forum of Jonny supporters... was there one?

Kate won... doesn't make her sainted, the best HM, or more popular with the ppl who disliked her... just because she won doesn't in the eyes of many forum members suddenly make her a lovely ladette... the ones who voted for her liked her best, the ones who didn't in the majority didn't. But she won according to the game fair and square, no dispute.

Thats fair enough, but you missed the point. I was replying to someone who was saying that all the talk/discussion was about Jade, Alex and Spencer, I was disagreeing with that, that's all, not denying anyone the right to their opinion.

The problem with this, is people think it's about fame and money. Perhaps what happens afterwards is, but the fact remains Kate won the show, just like Craig did (although Nick almost certainly made more) and just like Brian did (although Helen got far more press coverage)... Alex's fans are just a little sadder than most and so continue posting about what a hero he is and how he is the "real" winner because he's appeared on the front page of OK a few times and done an advert which only proved how ridiculous and over the top he was with the whole peeing in the shower thing.

Nick might have made money quickly, but it is Graig that is still doing TV work.
Poor Helan is now looking for work. Brian is doing TV work.
Alex might be making quick money saying the same things over and over again in Ok and the express.(doesn't the Express own Ok)
But it will be Kate that will end up the Star

Five facts : One prediction, LC.

Time will tell if you're right ... so maybe rather than because the fat lady hasn't even started warming up yet.

I think Alex gets discussed more than any other housemate on forums because he was the most verbal housemate, and as forums are about using words (it's true, you know), it was easier for people to quote Alex and discuss what he said. The same could be said about Jade, although to a lesser extent.

What I liked about Kate was not necessarily what she said, but HOW she said and did things. For example, I liked the way she negotiated the rift between Sophie and Tim/Jade, or the emotion she felt when Alison left.

However, I wouldn't necessarily want to talk about these things on a forum, because it's just harder to do.

I also liked Jonny because of his manner and I liked his outlook on things. Again not necessarily anything you can talk about openly.

This is probably why the majority of people on forums or in the media preferred Alex and Jade, while the silent majority voted Kate and Jonny first and second.

I'll give you an example of something I liked about Jonny:

In the final week, Jade was really pissed off about something in the kitchen, complaining how someone's eaten all the chocolate, or hasn't tidied up, (I can't remember what).

Anyway, she was shouting at Jonny, complaining about the problem, and you could see Jonny getting fed up with her moaning.

So he turned away to walk out, but as he left, he said "here here" to Jade, just to show he supported Jade on the issue, but he didn't want to talk about it anymore.

I liked the way he managed to diffuse the argument with Jade without making her feel bad. That was something Jonny was good at in general.

But again, it's very hard to explain on a forum that you liked the WAY somebody does things, as opposed to something they might have said...

Well said, beebop

WTG.......The silent majority!

Can't stand the thought of hearing Jade sing again

Well Said Beebop! The show was not all about entertainment, but also the quieter qualities of the HMs.