It doesn't matter if it is a fake. The programme is proving to be so entertaining that I'm not really bothered.
Is the series a fake?
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It's set in Northern Australia which had a temperature of 30 Degrees yesterday (a bit cooler today at 24) hot with no rain (unlike on the programme where it rained)
Er - are you aware of just how massive the state of Queensland (in north-eastern Australia, which is where they are based) is? You could lose Britain several times over just in its forested parts!
It is quite normal for weather forecasts for the state to claim it will be dry, but for heavy rain to occur randomly in various localised places. It's just too big an area for a single forecast to be accurate - and it rains a LOT in Queensland. That's why it's so green for such a hot country, and that's why rainforests are called rainforests!
My point exactly - they're hardly going to be in an actual rainforets the technical sides of it would be impossible
But they ARE in a rainforest, they're just not in a dense part of it!
notice how they have a crane camera next to the camp - how did that get in? In a hicker's back-pack?
As has been stated numerous times before, they are using the location originally set up by the Americans for the second series of Survivor. The Americans had to build their own accessways to the site, and they are still there - it's obvious from what you can see that it's a very well-used location.
However, that does NOT mean that the area is not remote.
Even Big Brother closes the lines between 3 - 15 mins before announcing on air
Which is nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of time it takes to get the result - they'll know what it is as soon as the lines close, and unless it was a close-run thing they'll have known for a good 45 minutes beforehand.
The BB delay is purely for production purposes - it's not a necessity borne of technological limitations.
setting a mobile satellite connection e.g. from within an Australian forest to UK is going to show up a little interference through atmospheric conditions and so on
It's a very robust digital link, and the atmospheric conditions in Australia are excellent at this time of year. This isn't 1982 any more, there's no reason to assume that satellite links *have* to cause problems.
More likely they're closer to a more substantial uplink facility than they're letting on
But even if they are, WHO CARES, apart from a handful of anoraks? That's not the point of the show - the point of the show is seeing the celebs falling out big-time like they did last night, and that's what makes for great television.
Er - are you aware of just how massive the state of Queensland (in north-eastern Australia, which is where they are based) is? You could lose Britain several times over just in its forested parts!
It is quite normal for weather forecasts for the state to claim it will be dry, but for heavy rain to occur randomly in various localised places. It's just too big an area for a single forecast to be accurate - and it rains a LOT in Queensland. That's why it's so green for such a hot country, and that's why rainforests are called rainforests!
My point exactly - they're hardly going to be in an actual rainforets the technical sides of it would be impossible
But they ARE in a rainforest, they're just not in a dense part of it!
notice how they have a crane camera next to the camp - how did that get in? In a hicker's back-pack?
As has been stated numerous times before, they are using the location originally set up by the Americans for the second series of Survivor. The Americans had to build their own accessways to the site, and they are still there - it's obvious from what you can see that it's a very well-used location.
However, that does NOT mean that the area is not remote.
Even Big Brother closes the lines between 3 - 15 mins before announcing on air
Which is nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of time it takes to get the result - they'll know what it is as soon as the lines close, and unless it was a close-run thing they'll have known for a good 45 minutes beforehand.
The BB delay is purely for production purposes - it's not a necessity borne of technological limitations.
setting a mobile satellite connection e.g. from within an Australian forest to UK is going to show up a little interference through atmospheric conditions and so on
It's a very robust digital link, and the atmospheric conditions in Australia are excellent at this time of year. This isn't 1982 any more, there's no reason to assume that satellite links *have* to cause problems.
More likely they're closer to a more substantial uplink facility than they're letting on
But even if they are, WHO CARES, apart from a handful of anoraks? That's not the point of the show - the point of the show is seeing the celebs falling out big-time like they did last night, and that's what makes for great television.
[SIZE=4]With regards to GWR - I COULDNT AGGREE MORE![/SIZE]
Re Satcom - erm How do i get this basic satelite technology??
and for what price? does anyone else aggree with him?
- second it's a TV programme with it's primary aim to entertain the viewers not provide stupid conspiracy theorys to the "ANORAKS".
oh and about BB and the votes erm well of casue there going to know who it is a few seconds after - but if my memory serves me rigjht theres an add break prior to the telling them who's won - so thats what five minutes of nerveous angling and dramatic suspension!!
Wake up people and smell the coffee it's only TV!
Re Satcom - erm How do i get this basic satelite technology??
and for what price? does anyone else aggree with him?
- second it's a TV programme with it's primary aim to entertain the viewers not provide stupid conspiracy theorys to the "ANORAKS".
oh and about BB and the votes erm well of casue there going to know who it is a few seconds after - but if my memory serves me rigjht theres an add break prior to the telling them who's won - so thats what five minutes of nerveous angling and dramatic suspension!!
Wake up people and smell the coffee it's only TV!
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“it is of course a fake, its a special set they built on the moon........”
“it is of course a fake, its a special set they built on the moon........”
not possible - we (the world) have never landed on the moon - its a conspiricy
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“Originally posted by bystander
Did anyone really believe that we would see them being attacked by crocodiles and poisonous snakes and spiders?
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“Originally posted by bystander
Did anyone really believe that we would see them being attacked by crocodiles and poisonous snakes and spiders?
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Well, no.. but I was certainly hoping
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“Originally posted by Drifting
Hmm! I never said it wasn't filmed in that in Australia all I was hinting that it might not be as tough as what we think it is after all it is a location for a TV programme and as been for a couple of years. ”
“Originally posted by Drifting
Hmm! I never said it wasn't filmed in that in Australia all I was hinting that it might not be as tough as what we think it is after all it is a location for a TV programme and as been for a couple of years. ”
why do you think it should be any tougher than as it is shown on the tv - you see how tough it is or isn't on_the_television - and thats just as tough as it is. the *tough* bit is that they are away from home, living in unusual circumstances, with people they don't know. and thats it - why the big surprise/suspicion that its perhaps slightly more comfortable/convenient than it might be - it is after all a tv show, and not some extreme survival endurance test.
where is the confusion in that?
and who mentioned the weather in *northern australia* being different to what we saw? do you know how [SIZE=3]BIG[/SIZE] *northern australia* is?
Iain, who is more
than usual
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“Originally posted by dan2002UK
not possible - we (the world) have never landed on the moon - its a conspiricy ”
“Originally posted by dan2002UK
not possible - we (the world) have never landed on the moon - its a conspiricy
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I agree with that!
Look at Ant and Dec in their bit. I can see a very thin line around their heads.
Whoever's chromakeying this is doing a very good job.
They never move from their spot cause the lighting would be wrong.
Whoever's chromakeying this is doing a very good job.
They never move from their spot cause the lighting would be wrong.
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“Originally posted by n2x
Look at Ant and Dec in their bit. I can see a very thin line around their heads.
Whoever's chromakeying this is doing a very good job.
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“Originally posted by n2x
Look at Ant and Dec in their bit. I can see a very thin line around their heads.
Whoever's chromakeying this is doing a very good job.
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That's not light around their heads, it's halos. Sweet ickle angels... awww
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“Originally posted by mr_ray
That's not light around their heads, it's halos. Sweet ickle angels... awww ”
“Originally posted by mr_ray
That's not light around their heads, it's halos. Sweet ickle angels... awww
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
I agree with the original comment. Although I have only seen this series about 3 or 4 times, the times I have seen it it has appeared blatantly obvious that it is fake.
They may infact be in Australia, but we are certainly not seeing an accurate picture of what the setup there is.
For a start, these bits with Ant and Dec talking to camera, its obviously a studio, looking at the prop trees/bushes close to them, they are from a different camera to the one that has taken the footage of the waterfall in the far distance - it is like that wall you used to get on the credits of Coronation Street, where they had a real wall, in front of a photograph of the rooftops. This is the same thing, but with moving images.
That in itself would be fine, but then Ant and Dec go to meet the 'celebs' in the jungle, and they run along a small track - and hey presto they have gone from a studio to what is supposed to be the middle of nowhere!
In addition, the camera angles and camera movements are much too convenient - in shows like BB they have the advantage that the contestants are confined to a very limited space - even then, there are plenty of awkward shots. In this show though, the cameras seem free to move all over the place, there are never any mic problems (that I have seen) and yet the 'celebs' don't appear to even notice the fact that a cameraman must be jumping about 3 feet from them, when they are having some intimate discussion!
Even the backgrounds of the camp seem to suggest that there is not of DEPTH to this jungle. It looks like they have wheeled in a whole bunch of plants and made a jungle set that is quite long, but maybe only 10 feet deep.
Admittedly, there have been some shots of them all traipsing through the jungle that I though DID look like they were done on location, but could easily have been done in a forest someplace, and infact would have had to have been done where the production team knew the exact path they were going to take, to have the ARIEL camera pan along as they walked!
I can't believe anyone here can believe it's NOT fake! As for costs of faking it over the real thing - as BB showed, the phone calls will easily pay for either option, and the production company probably does not want to have to explain why they managed to kill off a celeb (C-list or otherwise) with a nasty snake or insect bite - even if it was only Uri Geller.
Admittedly I have not seen all the shows, so there are possibly things I have missed.
GtB
They may infact be in Australia, but we are certainly not seeing an accurate picture of what the setup there is.
For a start, these bits with Ant and Dec talking to camera, its obviously a studio, looking at the prop trees/bushes close to them, they are from a different camera to the one that has taken the footage of the waterfall in the far distance - it is like that wall you used to get on the credits of Coronation Street, where they had a real wall, in front of a photograph of the rooftops. This is the same thing, but with moving images.
That in itself would be fine, but then Ant and Dec go to meet the 'celebs' in the jungle, and they run along a small track - and hey presto they have gone from a studio to what is supposed to be the middle of nowhere!
In addition, the camera angles and camera movements are much too convenient - in shows like BB they have the advantage that the contestants are confined to a very limited space - even then, there are plenty of awkward shots. In this show though, the cameras seem free to move all over the place, there are never any mic problems (that I have seen) and yet the 'celebs' don't appear to even notice the fact that a cameraman must be jumping about 3 feet from them, when they are having some intimate discussion!
Even the backgrounds of the camp seem to suggest that there is not of DEPTH to this jungle. It looks like they have wheeled in a whole bunch of plants and made a jungle set that is quite long, but maybe only 10 feet deep.
Admittedly, there have been some shots of them all traipsing through the jungle that I though DID look like they were done on location, but could easily have been done in a forest someplace, and infact would have had to have been done where the production team knew the exact path they were going to take, to have the ARIEL camera pan along as they walked!
I can't believe anyone here can believe it's NOT fake! As for costs of faking it over the real thing - as BB showed, the phone calls will easily pay for either option, and the production company probably does not want to have to explain why they managed to kill off a celeb (C-list or otherwise) with a nasty snake or insect bite - even if it was only Uri Geller.
Admittedly I have not seen all the shows, so there are possibly things I have missed.
GtB
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Originally posted by bystander
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Did anyone really believe that we would see them being attacked by crocodiles and poisonous snakes and spiders?
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I did.
Now I hope they do.
Andy
Originally posted by bystander
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Did anyone really believe that we would see them being attacked by crocodiles and poisonous snakes and spiders?
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I did.
Now I hope they do.
Andy
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“Originally posted by iain
why do you think it should be any tougher than as it is shown on the tv - you see how tough it is or isn't on_the_television - and thats just as tough as it is. the *tough* bit is that they are away from home, living in unusual circumstances, with people they don't know. and thats it - why the big surprise/suspicion that its perhaps slightly more comfortable/convenient than it might be - it is after all a tv show, and not some extreme survival endurance test.
where is the confusion in that?
and who mentioned the weather in *northern australia* being different to what we saw? do you know how [SIZE=3]BIG[/SIZE] *northern australia* is?
Iain, who is more than usual ”
“Originally posted by iain
why do you think it should be any tougher than as it is shown on the tv - you see how tough it is or isn't on_the_television - and thats just as tough as it is. the *tough* bit is that they are away from home, living in unusual circumstances, with people they don't know. and thats it - why the big surprise/suspicion that its perhaps slightly more comfortable/convenient than it might be - it is after all a tv show, and not some extreme survival endurance test.
where is the confusion in that?
and who mentioned the weather in *northern australia* being different to what we saw? do you know how [SIZE=3]BIG[/SIZE] *northern australia* is?
Iain, who is more
than usual ”
Thats 1277
Is it me or do some/all of the bickering seem a little staged? And what do the celebs do all day? I can't help thinking that if they were all getting along fine, it would be a very boring show. Surely the makers couldn't have gambled that heavily on the celebs falling out??
The programme has great entertainment value and its likely we will only find out how faked it was after the participants return from the show and the story ends up in the papers.
I think they are having to rough it and it says a lot for them that they are up for it.
Put the same number of people together in an office environment for the first time and get them to work together and you would see a lot of the same behaviour.
Add creepy crawlies, no food, no home comforts and inexperience in a physically hostile environment and it no wonder that tempers get frayed, that there is conflict and harsh words spoken.
Good on them.
I could'nt do it !
I think they are having to rough it and it says a lot for them that they are up for it.
Put the same number of people together in an office environment for the first time and get them to work together and you would see a lot of the same behaviour.
Add creepy crawlies, no food, no home comforts and inexperience in a physically hostile environment and it no wonder that tempers get frayed, that there is conflict and harsh words spoken.
Good on them.
I could'nt do it !
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