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Who is the most intelligent celeb.........
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faequeen
30-08-2002
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“Originally posted by metafis


so you saw what.?
I saw..
Rhona sitting whilst Darran Day ranted and raved at her. Rhona saying calmy 'its not that important, tell me what your problem is'.
More ranting from Darren day...Rhona, still calm says 'Darren, just tell me exactlyy what your problem with me is'?.
More shouting and screaming from Darren, untill it got to the point where Rhona had to let fly as well. and I dont blame her at all. He WAS a total ******** imo. 'Im a man of the streets' argghhh...!!!..go away!!
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With all due respect Metafis - you're talking about the effect and not the cause. Rhona had been picking at each individual since she arrived, didn't you hear Christine when confronted, confirm the fact that her attitude had been bad? She'd been repeatedly saying snide things to Darren which caused him to snap and give her an earful.

Why are we all arguing about it though - they kissed and made up inthe end....... or did they?? <wicked laugh>
metafis
30-08-2002
naw...I mean only 4 days and at it like caged animals..(err...arguing that is, although Give Tara and darren another few days and ..... ).

I do think Rhona has been hard done by a bit though. I dont believe that Darren should have gone off at her like that, there was no need at all imo. ah well.we all see different things dont we
faequeen
30-08-2002
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“Originally posted by metafis
naw...I mean only 4 days and at it like caged animals..(err...arguing that is, although Give Tara and darren another few days and ..... ).

Oh no, please not ........'that'!

I do think Rhona has been hard done by a bit though.

Rhona is subliminal bully. She made it clear to Tara that the public vote reflected how much they were each hated - hence she/Tara was hated most followed by Nigel - and obviously much more so than Rhona herself. Nasty.
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Mesostim
30-08-2002
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“Originally posted by metafis



bullying?...the only person I saw doing any bullying was Darren Day. Rhona tried to stay calm and non confrontational, but he just kept going on and on about it, untill she gave back as good as she got, better in fact. She was standing up to a bully, not being bullying herself.

I would have agreed with you up till yesterday however, but she opened my eyes to whats going on, and I am humble enough to admit when Ive been wrong about someone, and Ill say it now, I was well wrong about her, I think shes is great and what she said yesterday in her 'speech' was spot on!.
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Can I say what a pleasure it is to be in total agreement with you Metafis.......
Mark64
30-08-2002
I Think Rhona is very media savvy, I hears her say something like " we cant spent the live link talking about sleeping bags"
usually IMHO comedians are the cleverest celebs not that she seems very witty - someone like Frank Skinner would be much sharper .
Mesostim
30-08-2002
She's certainly the most cynical........
LoNDoNcaLLiNg
30-08-2002
It looks like Darren and Nigal can only deal with submissive women. Tara is their kinda girl, she had to tell Darren how much she fancied him, (needs sex.) Let the plonker think it would be him, if only they had an opportunity . She has also been very flirty with Nigal.
So poor Rhona, who was spot on with her opinion on all of them, Will always be attacked by the Darren and Nigal's of this world.
meteormadness
30-08-2002
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“Originally posted by LoNDoNcaLLiNg
It looks like Darren and Nigal can only deal with submissive women. Tara is their kinda girl, she had to tell Darren how much she fancied him, (needs sex.) Let the plonker think it would be him, if only they had an opportunity . She has also been very flirty with Nigal.
So poor Rhona, who was spot on with her opinion on all of them, Will always be attacked by the Darren and Nigal's of this world.
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Exactly! Well put!
metafis
30-08-2002
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“Originally posted by Mesostim


Can I say what a pleasure it is to be in total agreement with you Metafis.......
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thanks.
Look's like they have driven her out now. A real shame.
joolz
30-08-2002
Oh yes, I am just so pleased to find people expressing my thoughts on Rhona - she is intelligent, and is trying to deal with the problems in a rational way. I feel really angry with thick as two planks Day, and bully boy Nigel, Tara just plays the little girl lost - she would irritate the hell out of me. I mean for heaven sakes did you hear the three of them discussing their little gang - and these are supposed to be intelligent adults. Poor rhona is very much on her own - Chrisitine is a two-faced stirrer, and the other three are just trying to stay on the right side of the fence
pches
30-08-2002
Clearly the least intelligent participant is Nigel Benn. Look at his actions: 1) constant references to hitting someone, 2) need to establish a clique where he is the leader and he humiliates the members who show sympathy to 'the other side' because he fears loosing his disciples 3) need to be the boss and his frustration when he is not 'in charge' which he interprets as a lack of respect.

He is devisive, dishonest and very limited in his perspective on the world. To him everything is black and white, no grey. His performance with the snakes was sissy like for an ex WBO Champion.

Of all the participants I believe that Nigel Benn has the most serious problems. yes, Rhona has issues but she is clearly aware of them. Can you imagine what it is like to live with Nigel? How many times has he threatened, or worse, to hit is wife? Of all the contestants he is clearly the least intelligent. The fact that his career has died down to the point where his income comes from spinning records in lousy C grade clubs for £200 a night says it all.
Mesostim
30-08-2002
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“Originally posted by joolz
Oh yes, I am just so pleased to find people expressing my thoughts on Rhona - she is intelligent, and is trying to deal with the problems in a rational way. I feel really angry with thick as two planks Day, and bully boy Nigel, Tara just plays the little girl lost - she would irritate the hell out of me. I mean for heaven sakes did you hear the three of them discussing their little gang - and these are supposed to be intelligent adults. Poor rhona is very much on her own - Chrisitine is a two-faced stirrer, and the other three are just trying to stay on the right side of the fence ”

Spot on Joolz...good early post
pches
30-08-2002
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“Originally posted by joolz
Oh yes, I am just so pleased to find people expressing my thoughts on Rhona - she is intelligent, and is trying to deal with the problems in a rational way. I feel really angry with thick as two planks Day, and bully boy Nigel, Tara just plays the little girl lost - she would irritate the hell out of me. I mean for heaven sakes did you hear the three of them discussing their little gang - and these are supposed to be intelligent adults. Poor rhona is very much on her own - Chrisitine is a two-faced stirrer, and the other three are just trying to stay on the right side of the fence ”


Totally agree Joolz. You have them all pegged.

I am totally revolted by Nigel Benn. what a total looser he is and Christine finally showed her true colors after the 5th day.
ShuffleBoard
31-08-2002
Very dissapointed by Christine. Found her "I told you so" stuff about the cost of a pint of milk (or whatever it was) very annoying. Worse was to come with her stirring and subsequent failure to admit that she had told Rhona about what she assumed to be Nigel's homophobia. She had a real opportunity to calm a nasty situation and did not take it. A bit of a snake if you ask me.
Stardancer
31-08-2002
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“Originally posted by joolz
Oh yes, I am just so pleased to find people expressing my thoughts on Rhona - she is intelligent, and is trying to deal with the problems in a rational way”

Hmmm, attacking Nigel for being homophobic when he hadn't mentioned anything to do with it, and pouring scorn upon his religious beliefs....yeah, that's really rational.

I believe that Rhona clearly thinks that any word spoken against her is due to her sexuality, whereas in fact it is not the point of conflict at all.
pony
31-08-2002
I think that there are several points on the conflict, on both sides. And that Rhona's sexuality is probably one of them.

And if Nigel has been going around the camp calling Rhona a "sinner" to other jungle mates - yes, that's homophobic. And, it's also fair to point out, not particularly Christian, either.

That said, I'm by no means saying Rhona is not responsible for any of the conflict.
Mesostim
31-08-2002
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“Originally posted by Stardancer


Hmmm, attacking Nigel for being homophobic when he hadn't mentioned anything to do with it, and pouring scorn upon his religious beliefs....yeah, that's really rational.

I believe that Rhona clearly thinks that any word spoken against her is due to her sexuality, whereas in fact it is not the point of conflict at all.
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Ah Stardancer - Her reaction was proberly caused by being told by Christine that Nigel was homophobic through religion. Rhona wante to confront him on the subject. Nigel flew into a rage..........Even the intelligent can be emotionally effected by stirring.......
Stardancer
31-08-2002
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“Originally posted by Mesostim


Ah Stardancer - Her reaction was proberly caused by being told by Christine that Nigel was homophobic through religion. Rhona wante to confront him on the subject. Nigel flew into a rage..........Even the intelligent can be emotionally effected by stirring.......
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I would not disagree with you, Meso, but then is confrontation with a man who you know has those views the act of an intelligent and rational woman? Would it not have been better not to confront him, even less to goad the guy?
steven123
31-08-2002
totally agree with you Metafis i too think rhona is very rational but has simply been pushed way too far by darren and then nigel too
fruitbat
01-09-2002
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“Originally posted by steven123
totally agree with you Metafis i too think rhona is very rational but has simply been pushed way too far by darren and then nigel too ”

I am at a loss to understand why anyone thinks that Rhona has been pushed too far. It is her that is doing the pushing - she knows exactly which buttons to push to wind up Nigel and Darren, has had goes at Tara, and even brought the rest of the camp into her arguments. How is that Rhonna being pushed too far?
studley
01-09-2002
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“Originally posted by fruitbat


I am at a loss to understand why anyone thinks that Rhona has been pushed too far. It is her that is doing the pushing - she knows exactly which buttons to push to wind up Nigel and Darren, has had goes at Tara, and even brought the rest of the camp into her arguments. How is that Rhonna being pushed too far?
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Because she's a victim fb, apparently.
mr_ray
01-09-2002
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“Originally posted by fruitbat


I am at a loss to understand why anyone thinks that Rhona has been pushed too far. It is her that is doing the pushing - she knows exactly which buttons to push to wind up Nigel and Darren, has had goes at Tara, and even brought the rest of the camp into her arguments. How is that Rhonna being pushed too far?
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Well exactly, but why can't those few others see that?
Mesostim
01-09-2002
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“Originally posted by fruitbat


I am at a loss to understand why anyone thinks that Rhona has been pushed too far. It is her that is doing the pushing - she knows exactly which buttons to push to wind up Nigel and Darren, has had goes at Tara, and even brought the rest of the camp into her arguments. How is that Rhonna being pushed too far?
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It seems to be Darren doing the pushing. Seems the GBP thinks that as well - That's why he keeps getting punished for his bad attitude.......
fruitbat
01-09-2002
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“Originally posted by Mesostim


It seems to be Darren doing the pushing. Seems the GBP thinks that as well - That's why he keeps getting punished for his bad attitude.......
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Mesostim, how do you know what the GBP think? Maybe they voted for Darren because of his attitude to Tara. Why do you think Darren is doing the pushing and not Rhona?
Mesostim
01-09-2002
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“Originally posted by fruitbat


Mesostim, how do you know what the GBP think? Maybe they voted for Darren because of his attitude to Tara. Why do you think Darren is doing the pushing and not Rhona?
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Rhona hasn't refused to talk to her baest mate becasue she gave Rhona a foot massage. Rhona hasn't refused to talk to Darren, the other two refused to talk to her. She's not the one dragging it out, Darren is - If you watch the show you'll see it. The GBP has voted him twice on a row - It can't be because they all love Tara because they'd be symathetic towards him because he's her best buddy. He's acted like a bully and been caght out.............
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