Nah. I think Christine is actually the biggest flirt of them all. Didn't you see the program Louis meets the Hamiltons or whatever it was called? I thought she was going to bed the guy!!

But saying that, I think she totally rocks!

So it's fine for two men to threaten one woman. That can be used as defense in court - "She asked for it m'lud"...

That's definately true.
However, Rhona's paranoia makes her think that anyone who disagrees with her or says something bad about her only dislikes her because of it.

"You don't like me, therefore you don't like me because I'm a lesbian, therefore you're a homophobe!"

She really brings a bad name to lesbians. I know several who are all very nice (some in bed too, but thast's a whole other story. hehe).

LOL FOMA

Not sticking up for Nigel, I find him annoying too, but I don't think he threatened her, she just tried to twist it into a threat. She's the one who then went on to say she wished she was a guy so she could fight him, that she'd love that.

<Dr Dave puts on best patient tone>

No Meso.

If you read the other "Rhona's Gone" thread carefully you will see that I was disgusted by Nigel and Darren's behaviour and was one of the first to condemn it as a complete disgrace.

Nevertheless the fact that the guys behaved like a couple of idiotic bullies doesn't suddenly turn Rhona into a sainted martyr for the gay cause.

IMHO most of the antagonism to Rhona in the camp doesn't stem from her sexuality but from her personality and on those grounds (and those grounds alone) is entirely understandable.

Obviously this doesn't for one minute mean that I condone the manner in which that antagonism was expressed.

So if someone shouted at your sister/mother/daughter - "If you were a bloke I'd hit you spark out" in anger you'd laugh it off. You're sticking up for Nigel.
Anyway - There were two of them, Darren had to protect his weak friend. Nigel had also obviously been sharing his opinions with Christine about homosexuals (it had been mentioned previously in the week by the way).
Rhona was speaking t Christine because she felt that Nigel was behaving badly towards her. Christine explained it was because she was gay. What conclusion do you want to draw from that?

spot on.

Unfortunately the GBP in general will see Rhona and think she is a stereotypical lesbian, not 'this is Rhona'. Even Nigel and Darren and Tara agreed that 'she wants to be the man'... and this must have been accompanied by many nods in many homes. From that point of view, yes, a very sad day for TV... but I still blame Rhona in large measure.

The two most virile men are letting a woman's genitalia get in the way of them hitting her.

I'd say:

- If you were a man I'd hit you.
- Don't let a c**t stand in your way!

They are hiding behind a woman's genitalia... they're all talk and no action.

Just do it.

What has being a man got to do with fighting i. e. survival. I'd say actually nothing.

When Rhona asked Christine if Nigel had said that to her - Christine said no.

I think Christine was chatting to Rhona - trying to explain why Nigel was a bit 'off' with her ... and Christine thought she was trying to calm things somewhat - not realising that what she was saying was just winding Rhona up more and more.

If you read Mr Day's profile... you will see that he is a fan of Nigel Benn's and he is certainly proving that! Uri asked Tony a very personal question 2nite.... well I think the main reason that the lot of them are there is because they are hoping it will raise their profile..... ala bb style..... or in their case.... revive their flagging 'careers'... also I suspect that their agents were strongly in favour of them accepting this challenge.... in the hope that they (the agent) would get a break from this group of talentless whingers...... (apart from Tony ....

The threat is enough. Then reinforced with silence to make it clear that she has been cast out of the tribe. They want her gone so they can play happy families and the are using agression to do it......really sad to watch.
If Rhona does go I'm just glad she spoke up for herself whilst she was there. Nigel's "she a man in her relationship" comment reveals the homophobe in him........

Yeah i too think most of them are there to raise their profile, the only one so far who is imo very obv trying to raise their profile is Darren and i would say tara but she doesn't really have a profile in the first place to raise

p.s. why'd u have to have a similar name to mine bet we get confused by people


I too agree with that, remember she wasn't paranoid or even thought that she was being shouted at because of her being a lesbian until christine told her about nigel and his beliefs.
However, if you put someone who doesn't like a certain type of person e.g. gay or black or whatever then obviously they're gonna row sooner or later and they'll have prejudices against that person even though they may think they don't.

personally i think rhona is great!, she has a very strong and firey personality and does'nt take any nonsense from darren or nigel either. Also she seems to be treated rather unfairly too everyone is against her or so it seems especially considering darren in my opininion is far worse and did cause most of the trouble in the first place

also nigel does seem to be very homophobic and basically a prehistoric male chauvanist, not to mention far too big headed and full of himself too

anyway regardless those regular clashes with rhona and darren/nigel sure make great TV!, hope rhona doesnt leave as the show just wouldnt be as good or entertaining

also was really pleased to see that darren has to do the swamp challenge, very well deserved i say!

Sorry if it comes across that way, but I'm not. I find his, Darren's, and Rhona's behaviour totally unacceptable. However, Rhona is far and away the worst offender.
And if my sister/mother/daughter had offended and insulted so many people so many times in so many ways in so short a timeframe, be sure I would have had more than a few strong stern words long before it even came to that. Sadly though, had anyone done that with Rhona, she would have just blasted them for being a homophobic wan***. Very sad.

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“ Anyway - There were two of them, Darren had to protect his weak friend. Nigel had also obviously been sharing his opinions with Christine about homosexuals (it had been mentioned previously in the week by the way).”

Nigel had been "sharing opinions", and you suggest that that's a bad thing? Isn't that his right? Isn't free speech a good thing? Some people though interpret this as free bitching.

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“ Rhona was speaking t Christine because she felt that Nigel was behaving badly towards her. Christine explained it was because she was gay. What conclusion do you want to draw from that?”

Christine suggested it was because she was gay. And surely even then the responsible adult thing would be to behave impeccably towards someone like that to show them up as the bad guy rather than treat them like sh!t?

And the conclusion I'd like to draw from that is that most of them have a lot of growing up to do, some (one) more than others, though.

Ha ha ha Mr_Ray. You have a go at Rhona for speaking her mind and being a little bit sarcy to the camp bully and then you use the 'freedom of speech' argument - Decide quickly now - Freedom of speech (Rhona can speak her mind - Or not freedom of Speech (Darren and Nigel can't bully and bitch)...

Nope, no go at Rhona for "speaking her mind and being a bit sarky", instead for "being a manipulative cow in the whole thing purely to cause controversy and make a quick buck, and deliberately annoying and grating at several people and then cowering in fear and pretending to be the victim".
In this situation Nigel (although far from innocent himself) can't win. He either takes all the sh!t and personal insults from her, or he bites back and has everyone say he's a big evil mean boxer man picking on a poor woman. Sheesh. And Darren, yeah he's playing up to it a lot like a spoilt kid, but then there's a whole lot of b!tch to play up to!

And I said Nigel had the right to free speech in a discussion of opinions of lesbians and religion with Christine in a decent manner.
Rhona however takes free speech to mean verbally abuse the big guy and cry and moan when he shouts back twice as loud!

Come on people, can't you see through the scheming (expletive deleted)
(And yes I'm perfectly aware that probably most of them are in it only for their own ends, but they aren't bitchy abouit it!!)

true

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“anyway regardless those regular clashes with rhona and darren/nigel sure make great TV!, hope rhona doesnt leave as the show just wouldnt be as good or entertaining”

maybe for the wrong reasons

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“also was really pleased to see that darren has to do the swamp challenge, very well deserved i say! ”

wouldn't argue with that!

....love the Clint Eastwood impersonation

(lean, mean and monosyllabic)

but you should probably wear a hat to get the complete effect

Reckon so.

Yup.

<johnno does not suit hats... ever. Everyone laffs>

How about a poncho?

It might give you an edge.

Every poster I ever knew had an edge.

Sorry - nuff Eastwood references already!

i think they are as bad as each other. both are making judgements about each other without any thought. the situation is totally out of hand now and with such stubborn , obstinate characters there is no way back.

wonder how they'll all get on when they meet at the next show bizz party?

Evrtone stand up to her - Easy to do because shes only a woman - No one will up stand up to Nigel (except good old Uri)......