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studley

02-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by Mesostim

Are all religious beliefs right Fruitbat? Or is Rhona now and always will be wrong? ”

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What a stupid question. How can one relate to, or exclude the other?

studley

02-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by Mesostim
They are both as bad as each other. Nigel more so.
I don't like his confrontational finger in the face trick either. Him and Rhona didn't hit it off - Happens sometimes, and with lack of fod and sleep they kicked off. We all in this forum take things to extremes - We say that Rhona has all those terrible character traits, when she proberly has been like that some of the time and alright the rest of the time - We say that Nigel is a religious, homophobic thug, whenhe proberly isn't and has been misunderstood because of his lack of social skills - Fault on all sides (and Christines and Darren's - They play their part) - We should all move on and enjoy the show for what it is (although - all this argument is fun )............... ”

That first line is illogical Captain.
The last line is however accurate.
To those thinking this is getting nasty I'd say you were wrong. I can't speak for Mesostim but for myself I enjoy pitting wits against worthy opponents, even if they're only halfwits. JOKE!!!!!

mr_ray

02-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by studley

To those thinking this is getting nasty I'd say you were wrong. I can't speak for Mesostim but for myself I enjoy pitting wits against worthy opponents, even if they're only halfwits. JOKE!!!!! ”

How is it the saying goes? It's not fair to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

Mesostim

02-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by faequeen

Your words choke me mesostim because no-one annihilated poor Jade more than your good self. You denegrated every part of that young, naive character and never had a good word to say about her. In contrast to Rhona, Jade had an overpowering history of circumstances - quite beyond her control which could have been the reason for behaviour. You never once gave her the same consideration as you are advising others to give Rhona. ”

Busted

- I am a reformed man - I have spoken to my metaphorical Brett and become a better person. Love me

Mossopp

02-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by brbob

ok, in my experience as a dyke, people who say they aren't homophobic often are. just as people who say they aren't racist can be. it is clear to me that nigel has a problem with it. i respect the people who say so to my face a lot more than the ones who make assumptions about my sex life and assume i'm into role-playing.
rhona can be funny, but as a person, i don't like her. she has a bad attitude and it bugs me when people claim to speak for a whole group.
i think that christine simply made a mistake and didn't have the guts to admit to it. ”

I agree with everything you said there. However I don't believe Rhona has ever claimed to speak for the entire gay community at any point, either in IACGMOOH or in any other work she's done. I wouldn't exactly say she has a "bad attitude" either.

faequeen

02-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by mr_ray

How is it the saying goes? It's not fair to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. ”

Talking of wit...favourite quote of the day:

A. You are a b*stard
B. Sir, I am one by an accident of birth - you on the other hand are a self-made man!

curtaintwitcher

03-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by nelly-j

in fact christine never once told rhona that nigel hates gays or that he had vilified rhona for being gay, she only told her what his beliefs were likely to be.
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Its nice to see that someone watched the same programme as I did.
Rhona's reaction was totally over the top. I find it staggering that someone who feels others should be tolerant of her views is so intolerant of those of other people. So what if Nigel is homophobic or not ? Whatever his views are he is entitled to them and she should live with it. She certainly wouldnt change a homophobics views by ranting on as she did.
As for Christine, I was pleasantly surprised at how she has come over and if I had to be stuck on an island with her I could live with it. The only ones I would slit my throat at being imprisoned with would be Uri ( cos he has my eyes permanently rolling to the back of my head), Nigel ( he is too belligerent) and Rhona (because she is even more belligerent than Nigel.)

brbob

03-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by Mossopp

I agree with everything you said there. However I don't believe Rhona has ever claimed to speak for the entire gay community at any point, either in IACGMOOH or in any other work she's done. I wouldn't exactly say she has a "bad attitude" either. ”

ok, maybe she hasn't, we'll leave that job to peter tatchell, eh?

maybe bad attitude was the wrong way of putting it, i just think she went over the top and did more harm than good. ranting at people tends to be counter-productive. she seems to have calmed down a bit and comes across better as a result.

curtaintwitcher, homophobia is not a nice thing to deal with.

metafis

03-09-2002

I also enjoy pitting my wits against worthy Opponents. Let me know when you find one for me.

Cybele

03-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by metafis

I also enjoy pitting my wits against worthy Opponents. Let me know when you find one for me.

”

La La and Po are too short to reach the computer keys, unfortunately

curtaintwitcher

03-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by brbob

curtaintwitcher, homophobia is not a nice thing to deal with. ”

noe but neither is someone who calls people ********, slow etc. I cant say I have seen any homophobia from Nigel though. It was suggested by Christine as a reason for his dislike of Rhona but his attitude to Rhona could possibly be because she is just not a particularly nice person.

brbob

03-09-2002

i totally agree that she was out of order, and she seems to have calmed down a bit. nigels comments to darren are homophobic and you do pick up on it when people think that way. as i said before, i respect the people who say it to my face more than the ones who talk behind my back. at least it's possible to clear the atmosphere, then. a friend of mine went out with a bloke like that, after much tension, we ended up tipping beer over each other and laughing. now we get on great, in spite of our differences.

they seem to have made their peace, anyway.

Mesostim

03-09-2002

Quote:
“Originally posted by curtaintwitcher

Its nice to see that someone watched the same programme as I did.
Rhona's reaction was totally over the top. I find it staggering that someone who feels others should be tolerant of her views is so intolerant of those of other people. So what if Nigel is homophobic or not ? Whatever his views are he is entitled to them and she should live with it. She certainly wouldnt change a homophobics views by ranting on as she did.
As for Christine, I was pleasantly surprised at how she has come over and if I had to be stuck on an island with her I could live with it. The only ones I would slit my throat at being imprisoned with would be Uri ( cos he has my eyes permanently rolling to the back of my head), Nigel ( he is too belligerent) and Rhona (because she is even more belligerent than Nigel.) ”

....I seriously believe that no-one is entitled to be homophobic and I don't believe that anyone should have to "live with it" should they be gay and someone else homophobic..............Not matter if they are "nice people" or not. It's as good as saying that a racist person is entiled to there view and anyone not white has to "live with it". It's just blind hate -
.....And I'm not suggesting in this post fo ra moment that Nigel is homophobic. But maybe Rhona had a go at him because he'snot a very nice person (sarcasm)........

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