The song was "Better Man" by Robbie Williams actually. It's one of his better songs, but Darren seemed to be singing it like he was in another one of his musicals.

It was a cheesy moment, but there go, doesn't make me think any less of him, or more to be honest. Him talking about how he became the new Cliff Richard/boy next door was interesting though.

All 3 (rhona, darren, nigel) have ego's and are very defensive with that... It could be argued that Rhona gets away with it a little more though because she's a woman. She likes bringing these differences in rights for women and men up... It can work both ways methinks.

I'm posting this for no sensible reason other than to get my name in all the top eight places.

I think it's more a case of Rhona being excluded and becoming more and more upset because of it. Leading to a point when Christine told her it was because of Homophobia.
After being threatened by the two alpha males she left the camp and returned the next day with a new sense of humility. Darren and Nigel egos keep going (although Darren's double nomination nightmare is a lesson to him)........

Oh come on now, be serious.
How you can in your right mind ever suggest that is totally beyond me, you must be insane. Living in cuckoo land


I mean - Nigel and Darren "two alpha males"?

I read in one of the Sunday papers that during her time away Rhona spent a couple of hours with the psychologist - who is the same psychologist they had on BB3 who brought about the remarkable change in Jade's behaviour in similar circumstances.

So Rhona is the new Jade!

How do you feel about that, Mesos?

that's interesting Cybele... I dun read newspapers, but it has a ring of truth to it.

As an aside, where Nigel might have scored just a few points for not being the initiator of that argument with rhona, he lost many more when he verbally attacked Christine and Uri and he would have had a go at anybody I think as he had been sitting to one side allowing his thoughts to fester for too long beforehand. Unfortunately he is also the sort of macho bloke who would think a talk with a shrink was for the mentally feeble, and as we all know he is one candidate who needs some therapy... he does seem to have real self control issues. I genuinely thought he was going to punch Uri.

After being threatened by the two alpha males she left the camp and returned the next day with a new sense of humility. Darren and Nigel egos keep going (although Darren's double nomination nightmare is a lesson to him)........
If Rhona had a talk with the psycholgist it has worked. (so far) Tara, Darren and Nigal should make an appointment with him soon. The 3 of them need help Big Time.
When Nigal did his hit and run attack again yesterday on Christine,Poor Uri tried to defuse the situation But Nigal turned on him. Rhona had to get between them to cool Nigal down.
If anything, it is Tara, Darren and Nigal's fragile personalitys that are the cause of all the upset in the camp.

Good - As people who dislike Jade came to respect her after her change then those who dislike early Rhona will come to like her more as well. If she makes a positive effort to change then you'll give her a second chance like Jade (which I never did but everyone else seemed to)......

All of his girlfriends/fiancees have been lovely I'm sure. How does that equate to him being a nice person? I think they've all had a lucky escape! He is unbearable. As for singing that song, it was embarrassing, but funny because it showed exactly what Darren Day is. I wont write the word but it rhymes with dosser.

Well, she certainly came across a hell of a lot better last night - it was like watching a different person.

Whereas with Nigel, there seems to be no hope for change....I really hope he goes tonight.

Cybele.The title of your thread made me laugh.I must admit i had one of those "i shouldn't be sniggering at poor bloke trying to be sincere soaring in emotion to the climax of his song"moments.But like rhona i wouldn't have let him see if i had been there.As for nigel.I don't think he has ever been taught good manners and doesn't have the wit to realise how obnoxious he sounds when he shouts people down and will not listen.When he called christine a stupid old woman any saving graces he might have had went straight out the window.I hope christine doesn't take it to heart too much.Ithought it quite an appropriate move of hers to thoroughly disinfect "the dirt box"later in the day.Maybe she was thinking of nigel when she was sluicing boiling water over everything.
Its going to be hard to vote nigel out with system they've implemented.I'm worried that one of the quiet ones goes by default.Whatever, its a great laugh .

well after last nights show im getting to like rhona even more ( definately my fave of the bunch) although i like her firery personality and the fact she wasnt scared of darren and nigel it was nice to see her calmer and more relaxed, she even managed to be very funny in places and was probably being the most friendly of the group last night, also i think tony did a top job as the leader, best leader so far i say

on the other hand nigel managed to make himseld look even more stupid by needlessy causing a arguement with christine and upsetting her very much

also how can people be complaining about rhona laughing at darrens singing a little cmon it was bloody awful and it was only for fun, also he managed to really annoy me by moaning pretty much all day about being picked twice and how the public doesnt like him, well thats not gonna help is it!

i think nigel should definately go tonight especially after upsetting christine last night, as far as im concerned darren hasnt really redeemed himself at all therefore i would like to see him go after nigel

although saying that i really dont know why people have to be voted off i think i would be much better to leave them all to get on with it for the whole time, it could get really boring when its just down to the last few left ):

That's odd because I mentioned Brett in one of my posts.

I had an inkling that Rhona holed up in the Bush Telegraph cave would be an ideal opportunity for a bit of therapy.

Hmm, mesos, talk about history repeating itself.

Give the guy a break. It's really awful that when people dislike someone they give them no credit for having any redeeming qualities. If he's good enough to sing on a west end stage to packed audiences then he's good enough to sing around a bleeding camp fire.

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Good - As people who dislike Jade came to respect her after her change then those who dislike early Rhona will come to like her more as well.
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I won't.

It wasn't his voice, it was the way he did it. It was just so embarrassing. I'm not proud of it, but I'm afraid I howled with laughter, and felt sympathy with Rhona as she desperately struggled to keep her face straight. You could see her mouth twitching.

I'm sure Darren is a great entertainer in the right context, but on this programme he has consistently behaved like a five star a***hole (as we say in scholarly circles), and after the way he attacked Tara over Rhona's foot massage, I don't think he particularly deserves a break. The only reason he's doing this whole public repentance number is that he's absolutely terrified of being voted out first. He truly seemed to believe that if Tara wanted to be his friend she shouldn't even speak to Rhona -that was his definition of `loyalty'.

I think this is the first time I've ever disagreed with you about anything, Fae - . (and even more worryingly, I found myself agreeing with Mesostim on one thread )

I suspect you've been beguiled by Darren's boyish good looks....he is quite fetching, after all.....

Pity he has all the personal charm of a deep-frozen halibut

I think you can add a 'me too' on that your statement Andy.

I have not liked Rhona since day 1. Brett coming in to change her attitude problems will not convince me to vote for her.

I am risking public ridicule here but I have just thought of a joke:


Q) Why does Daren call Tara 'Treasure' ?
A) Coz she's got a sunken chest !

(Damn this is good weed......)

As a matter of fact despite the mighty efforts of the media and the blatant prejudice of the BB3 producers (including a desperate last-minute rule change to save her from public humiliation) the only person Ms Goody ever defeated in a test of public opinion was Adele. Even then I still maintain that many people, including myself, only voted Adele out because we presumed Jade would be up for the chop the following week! Fools!

Well as long as you gave her a chance

Yes we did come a little unstuck on that one didn't we.

Sorry Mr Ray, but I take offence at your remarks there, I'm actually not prejudiced one bit, & if you knew me you would appreciate that.
Maybe I didn't express my thoughts clearly, but this is only an informal discussion right?
The point I was getting at is the physical threat that Nigel was imposing. I am aware that "they are not really alone out there" but so what! Nigel is a Professional Boxer whether you like it or not, and as such his hands are, according to law, offensive weapons if used to inflict harm outside of the boxing ring. To be guilty of such an offence, you do not have to actually commit it, you can also attempt to commit it, threaten to commit it or aid it when it is commited.
Nigel was showing agression and his body language was threatening, Christine was obviously distressed by it all, so regardless of his professional stance, he also commited the offence of Affray, for which he could have been arrested!
I agree that it is irrelevant who he acts towards, but I'm sure you agree that actions in self defence etc... tend to be regarded differently. Christine had no weapons, was displaying no aggressive stance or behaviour and was offering no verbal threat, therefore she was not posing a threat to Nigel. Also, it is generally considered that a 52 year old female, of what about 10 stone? Is at a physical disadvantage to a 35 (?) year old male who weighs about 14 stone (I'm guessing here, bear with me!).

Sorry dude, wasn't intended that way at all. I thought that the at the end made it clear that I was joking. It was more of a dig at the few people screaming blue murder over imagined unfair discrimination of Rhona over sexuality grounds.
Maybe in retrospect it dodn't come over that way.

Oh well, this is only a big farce anyway, eh?

I hope I did. I had never seen or even heard of Rhona/Nell or Darren prior to this programme.

I am not sure whether that puts me at a disadvantage or advantage with my views compared to many other forum posters.

Nell : I still know nothing about.

Rhona : if I were stuck with her in the jungle - there would be certain conflict. I think its her manner, way of talking others and to be quite honest, her humour baffles me.

Darren : I could put up with Darren even though he is somewhat petty. But I think he is learning from this experience and will try to improve himself somewhat because of it. I really hope he is not the one to go tonight.