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Old 27-03-2006, 13:18
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We are being disturbed by excessively noisy children screaming on Sunday afternoons and early evenings.

We have rung and seen the neighbours to tell them to keep the children quieter. Their attitude is 'it's not that bad' - it is 'that bad' if we are getting disturbed and have to say something.

We are not anti children and don't mind a reasonable amount of noise but screaming like banshees on the weekend and early evening when resting after work, is making our lives miserable.

We lived near a school before and it never bothered us, so it is of an unnacceptable level.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to do???

I have tried to be reasonable, so I would like to put them off playing near our place, they have a huge garden but they play near our garden.

I don't want to goto the Environmental heath as it is logged and has to be declared when selling. Ware looking to sell in September but I can't face waiting until then, and if we do sell before then the noise will put people off.

Now the clocks have gone forward, I feel sentenced to 6 months of hell from these people.
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Old 27-03-2006, 13:31
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I can sympathise with you! Theres not a great deal you can do except ask them to quiet down a bit, which you have done.

Other than soundproof your side a bit more (which is costly and reduces room size) you might just have to grin and bear it.

At least you can make as much noise as you like and not feel guilty, and maybe if they complain to you, it might make them realise how noisy they are.
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Old 27-03-2006, 13:36
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I really do sympathise. We just had 4 years of football mad children next door who used to kick a ball against a wall in their garden for hours on end every evening and weekends - drove us mad. There was nothing we could do since they're only kids and these days the parents can't really send them out to play in the park like we used to when we were kids. Luckily the neighbours moved out last year since which time its been absolute bliss but we had reached the stage where it was them or us.
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Old 27-03-2006, 13:37
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We are in a detached house and they are making their loud noise outside in their garden - as I say it is the screaming we are finding upsetting, not normal talking/playing noises.

I even put my TV on loud and I could still hear them above it.

We can't have our tea or relax till they go in, this when we are trying to unwind from a busy day.

They are inconsiderate morons and I want satisfaction - peace after a heavy day!!
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Old 27-03-2006, 13:37
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We live on a canal and in the summer it is extremely noisy with kids, dogs and canal boats. For some reason the kids from the nearby council estate pick right outside our house to do their fishing. Not much you can do. I have in the past told some of the kids to go yell outside their own houses. I felt bad afterwards.
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Old 27-03-2006, 13:47
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Tap into their water supply and introduce a steady amount of ketamine.

Actually...dont

Seriously though, i dont really know what you can do. Perhaps you could blast out some Ace of Spades or something during the evening?
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Old 27-03-2006, 13:53
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I'm afraid environmental services is your only route if they won't be resonable. Try to get cctv footage as that helps, and keep diary sheets. It will take time but it'll be worth it in the end. If they don't care about you, why should you care about them? Don't worry about selling the house, people will move in no matter what.
Are they chavs by the way? they sound like chavs.
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Old 27-03-2006, 14:01
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a trip to the solicitors worked for me,the noise had started to affect my health and I was at my wits end,environmental health was no use at all for me,maybe it was just the threat of a compensation claim that stopped them.

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Old 27-03-2006, 14:08
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Originally Posted by mrfreeze
I'm afraid environmental services is your only route if they won't be resonable. Try to get cctv footage as that helps, and keep diary sheets. It will take time but it'll be worth it in the end. If they don't care about you, why should you care about them? Don't worry about selling the house, people will move in no matter what.
Are they chavs by the way? they sound like chavs.
No he works as a university lecturer and they are more like outdoorsy types. He has a beard and into climbing - he spent all last summer doing up his shed as a climbing centre - disturbing many of our Sunday mornings.

They aren't aggressive, they are morons and they irritate the hell out of me
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Old 27-03-2006, 14:10
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Originally Posted by captainhaddock
a trip to the solicitors worked for me,the noise had started to affect my health and I was at my wits end,environmental health was no use at all for me,maybe it was just the threat of a compensation claim that stopped them.

Dave.
What was the procedure - I know a couple of lawyers who could put the fear of god into them.

Yes I am dreading this evening and the weekends already and the clocks have only just gone back
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Old 27-03-2006, 14:13
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If its only in the garden, its not so bad surely? Sounds like the way me and my brothers and sisters were when we were kids At least they aren't vegetating in front of the TV.

Sorry, thats not really helpful is it!? Kids playing in the garden shouldn't put too many people off. You might even attract a family buying your place and kids next door might actually be a good thing. Every cloud and all that....
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Old 27-03-2006, 14:21
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Originally Posted by millie-the-cat
If its only in the garden, its not so bad surely? Sounds like the way me and my brothers and sisters were when we were kids At least they aren't vegetating in front of the TV.

Sorry, thats not really helpful is it!? Kids playing in the garden shouldn't put too many people off. You might even attract a family buying your place and kids next door might actually be a good thing. Every cloud and all that....
Playing is fine - screaming isn't, there is nowhere to get away from it in or out.

Hopefully you are right about it attracting families when it comes to selling the place.
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Old 27-03-2006, 14:53
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Originally Posted by Cstar2229
What was the procedure - I know a couple of lawyers who could put the fear of god into them.

Yes I am dreading this evening and the weekends already and the clocks have only just gone back
It was simply a matter of making an appointment to see the solicitor and talking through the effect the noise had on me and my family,and our health, then a letter was sent to them,(the whole thing took less than a week), for us, this worked,I suppose it depends how badly it affects you,and if you're receiving treatment from your gp.(and of course how your neighbours react to the letter!).

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Old 27-03-2006, 15:06
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OP, whatever you decide to do, make sure you do something. Don't allow these people to get away with allowing their children to cause a disturbance, otherwise they'll continue to do it. Someone I know said she has really good neighbours who never complain. She followed that up by saying she sometimes does her hoovering or puts the washing machine on at 3 or 4am if she can't sleep, to which I told her that it's just as well we weren't neighbours because she'd grow to hate me as I most definitely would complain about it. She's in the top flat in a converted house, & the noise must be something else. It's not as if she works unsocial hours either - she's at home with the youngest child during the day, so could do tasks like that while her neighbours are at work. Even her partner (he works long hours 6 days a week) has told her she's being unreasonable, but she doesn't seem to care.

I had noise problems in my last home, & never again would I allow my good nature to give someone licence to be selfish. It was years before I made my complaints official, trying to be a good neighbour & not wanting to cause extra tension. As far as I'm concerned I was laughed at, until the day they got an official warning. Given the same set of circumstances again, I'd make 2 or 3 verbal complaints & 2 written ones & then take the matter further instead of dragging out the pain. As long as you allow it to go on without doing something official about it, it will. Children are entitled to enjoy themselves (& they don't seem to have a pain barrier when it comes to the level of their own voices), but it's the responsibility of those looking after them to ensure that they don't cause a disturbance to others while doing so. If that means them telling the children to be quiet, or supervising them more closely in the first place, so be it.

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Old 27-03-2006, 15:21
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One wonders why these children feel the need to scream all the time. As you say, general playing and laughter is acceptable, but screaming? I sympathise with you, It sounds to me as if the parents of these children, despite being educated, are profoundly ignorant.
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Old 27-03-2006, 15:24
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You havent said how old the children are? I would have thought kids being kids they'll make even more noise if you ask them not to.
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Old 27-03-2006, 15:27
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When I was a child, my parents' words (especially my father's ) were one step away from God's. An unrelated adult was two step's away. Maybe a child these days might ignore an unrelated adult, but if their parents intend to raise them with respect for other people's property & space, they won't ignore their parents.
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Old 27-03-2006, 15:27
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You have my utter sympathy.We have children next door who consistently use everyones garden as their play area.Our garage door is ruined due to it being their goal,and our car has clear dents.It's a new development and apparantly we aren't allowed fences but I'm fed up of their skateboard ramps being placed on our driveway,on our property and ruining our pavings.
I have four boys and wouldn't dream of letting them run amok on other peoples property and when they were younger I made sure that any noise stopped at a reasonable time.
These kids are out first thing and continue until long after dark,I dread the holidays.
It's just one family and yet at least five other families close by have children and cause no problems to their neighbours.
I work nights and although the noise I can block out ,the sound of the football slamming against out garage door wakes me up frequently.The whole house shakes.
I've tried being friendly and asking pleasantly if the mum could ask them not to,but an hour later they are at it again.
My sons play football at the nearby playing area,why can't hers.
We are now selling up,we've had enough,but we will have to wait until early autumn when they go back to school or it will put buyers off.
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Old 27-03-2006, 15:43
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Originally Posted by Caramels
One wonders why these children feel the need to scream all the time. As you say, general playing and laughter is acceptable, but screaming? I sympathise with you, It sounds to me as if the parents of these children, despite being educated, are profoundly ignorant.
I was wondering this too - constant screaming from children older than babies is a bit strange.
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Old 27-03-2006, 15:48
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Originally Posted by Cstar2229
No he works as a university lecturer and they are more like outdoorsy types. He has a beard and into climbing - he spent all last summer doing up his shed as a climbing centre - disturbing many of our Sunday mornings.

They aren't aggressive, they are morons and they irritate the hell out of me
obviously the beard is scaring the kids. Tell him to shave, they will stop screaming problem solved
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Old 27-03-2006, 16:14
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obviously the beard is scaring the kids. Tell him to shave, they will stop screaming problem solved
Everytime I see your username I'm always reminded of the Basement Jaxx song Oh My Gosh. Which isn't a bad thing.
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Old 27-03-2006, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Cstar2229
No he works as a university lecturer and they are more like outdoorsy types. He has a beard and into climbing - he spent all last summer doing up his shed as a climbing centre - disturbing many of our Sunday mornings.

They aren't aggressive, they are morons and they irritate the hell out of me
Oh no, sounds like the type that don't believe in telling children off. Almost as bad as chavs.
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Old 27-03-2006, 16:53
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I was wondering this too - constant screaming from children older than babies is a bit strange.
A friend use to visit with her 6 year old daughter and the screetching was like finger nails down a blackboard. When she was around all the other kids turned themselves up a volume to, or seemed to.

I babysat for her once - never again. The thing is she was polite but asking her to be quite was like talking to a brick wall. Ok perhaps she wasn't that polite.

I did tell my friend why I wouldn't be able to look after her again though. The couple upstairs had just had a baby and it wasn;t fair. Also I came very close to gagging her lol.
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Old 27-03-2006, 16:56
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Originally Posted by spearish
You have my utter sympathy.We have children next door who consistently use everyones garden as their play area.Our garage door is ruined due to it being their goal,and our car has clear dents.It's a new development and apparantly we aren't allowed fences but I'm fed up of their skateboard ramps being placed on our driveway,on our property and ruining our pavings.
I have four boys and wouldn't dream of letting them run amok on other peoples property and when they were younger I made sure that any noise stopped at a reasonable time.
These kids are out first thing and continue until long after dark,I dread the holidays.
It's just one family and yet at least five other families close by have children and cause no problems to their neighbours.
I work nights and although the noise I can block out ,the sound of the football slamming against out garage door wakes me up frequently.The whole house shakes.
I've tried being friendly and asking pleasantly if the mum could ask them not to,but an hour later they are at it again.
My sons play football at the nearby playing area,why can't hers.
We are now selling up,we've had enough,but we will have to wait until early autumn when they go back to school or it will put buyers off.
i can sympathises(sp) i live at the top bit on a cul de sac, as my house is by the widest part of the road all the kids play across my drive way over my garden etc, i have large dents in my new (6mths old) garage doors from their balls, my car has dents. i have lost count of the number of times i have come home to find i cant get on my own drive way as they have a "skateboard" ramp across it and if you speak to the parents you get a load of abuse. i have no problem with kids playing but these are 14/15 + yrs olds. they have also taken to lying across the road at dusk, my partner came home one night to find a group of kids sitting in the middle of the road in the dark, he was not going fast as its a blind bend as you enter the road (due to an over grown hedge) but it still took him by surprise, but what made it worse is that later that night we recieved a knock on the door by a policeman saying that the mother of the children had reported my partner for dangerous driving and trying to knock her children over!!! all we get is abuse from this women who see her children as perfect angels who can do no wrong, and that we are the ones causing trouble as we dont like her children playing on our property!!!!
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Old 27-03-2006, 17:18
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Originally Posted by Jazzyjedart
You havent said how old the children are? I would have thought kids being kids they'll make even more noise if you ask them not to.
2 girls aged 8 and 10 but it is when they have friends round that it gets bad.

They were pleasant enough people/children, but they have got noisier over the last year.

How come these so called educated people don't understand that people don't want loud noise when they are resting at home in the early evening and weekend afternoons?

I feel belitted by their 'it's not that bad' response - how do u deal with that. I lost it with them. I expected an apology and action to be taken, not more provocation - the stupid idiots

I don't want to directly talk to the children about it but I had a young child once and if a neighbour complained about him I would be understanding and take action not to offend again.

People have a right to peace when they are at home!!!!
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