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Christine and her fact stating...
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Rennie
04-09-2002
It's becoming a bit of a trend with Mrs H isn't it? Whilst others may err on the edge of caution or state an opinion as just that she always state everything as a fact and others in the camp swallow it as such.

She stated Nigel's problem with Rhona was based on Rhona's lesbianism. Well it seems that has never been the cause and comes from Christine putting Nigel's beliefs together with her views of his beliefs and coming up with her own conclusion bit stating it as fact.

Now she's always stating things as fact about Tara and do we know if they are really true. Tara doesn't write her own column, Tara phones her agent six times a day.....well you know what I'm on about.
mr_ray
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Rennie
It's becoming a bit of a trend with Mrs H isn't it? Whilst others may err on the edge of caution or state an opinion as just that she always state everything as a fact and others in the camp swallow it as such.

She stated Nigel's problem with Rhona was based on Rhona's lesbianism. Well it seems that has never been the cause and comes from Christine putting Nigel's beliefs together with her views of his beliefs and coming up with her own conclusion bit stating it as fact.

Now she's always stating things as fact about Tara and do we know if they are really true. Tara doesn't write her own column, Tara phones her agent six times a day.....well you know what I'm on about.
”

Provide sold undeniable proof that Mrs H doesn't know these things for a fact and I will agree with you.
Rennie
04-09-2002
Okay, I'll provide the facts but they are in a chest hidden in the grounds of a Centerparcs....
dome
04-09-2002
Christine stating as fact about Tara's notes to Darren when she has not actually seen any of them.
mr_ray
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by dome
Christine stating as fact about Tara's notes to Darren when she has not actually seen any of them. ”

Not that we've seen anyway. Who's to say what happens in the other 23 hours a day when we don't gawp at them en masse.
johnno
04-09-2002
well, as i saw it, the guests must have seen and heard Tara... Tony was the one who said she was onto her agent 8 times a day asking her to buy certain gucci items and enquiring about parties. If they hadn't heard these, how would they know? Who is telling lies?

As for Christine and the notes, he showed Christine a note which she and we saw in his hand. That was when Christine told him to back off carefully. He says she wrote him 2 notes in camp and several in the hotel.
Rosie
04-09-2002
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“Originally posted by johnno
well, as i saw it, the guests must have seen and heard Tara... Tony was the one who said she was onto her agent 8 times a day asking her to buy certain gucci items and enquiring about parties. If they hadn't heard these, how would they know? Who is telling lies?

As for Christine and the notes, he showed Christine a note which she and we saw in his hand. That was when Christine told him to back off carefully. He says she wrote him 2 notes in camp and several in the hotel.
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I watched last nights show again tonight at 8pm. I wanted to see who said what. It was in fact Christine who said about tara calling the agent about Gucci bags. I really can't believe these people. Don't they realize the public sees this behaviour and form opinions about their character? Obviously they didn't watch BB, Tara did of course and tho she is having problems, her image isn't hurt by how she is acting.
dome
04-09-2002
If Christine had already seen the notes why did she ask Darren to show them to her?
Mesostim
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by mr_ray


Provide sold undeniable proof that Mrs H doesn't know these things for a fact and I will agree with you.
”

That is a valid point......
But don't all tories speak with forked tongue?
But don't we agree Tara in incapable of writing a newspaper column.....
......Mix of things really........
metafis
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by mr_ray


Not that we've seen anyway. Who's to say what happens in the other 23 hours a day when we don't gawp at them en masse.
”

except Darren said the notes were passed 'on camera'. I mean...if they existed itv would definatly have broadcast it.
and then he says the notes were passed at the hotel!!...
Mesostim
04-09-2002
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“Originally posted by dome
If Christine had already seen the notes why did she ask Darren to show them to her? ”

Regardless - The notes exists - I hope Darren sells them to a newspaper so we can all see them.......
nelly-j
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by dome
Christine stating as fact about Tara's notes to Darren when she has not actually seen any of them. ”

yes she did see them, as did we . the night b4 last darren quietly asked christine what he should do about them and he showed the latest one to her. it was on cream paper with black ink writing.
christine isn't talking out of turn , she is acting as any of us would with someone who has such a high expectation of your total attention. don't vilify people for just giving their opinion, we all do it and if pressed we give it. it might not always be correct but remember it is only her opinion....she never claims it to be the gospel truth !
nelly - still wants christine to win....didn't like tara's smarminess tonight with regards to hearing all that was said....also poor show itv , that was very unfair to the celebs in camp.
Sazz
04-09-2002
Darren said to Nigel she has been sending them 2 or 3 times a day!
Then when asked to show them to Christine he says oh but there are two and ones in the hotel.
When Ant and Dec asked him he completely changed the subject.
mr_ray
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Mesostim


Regardless - The notes exists - I hope Darren sells them to a newspaper so we can all see them.......
”

Watch out for them next week on eBay
serena
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Sazz
Darren said to Nigel she has been sending them 2 or 3 times a day!
Then when asked to show them to Christine he says oh but there are two and ones in the hotel.
When Ant and Dec asked him he completely changed the subject.
”

I don't understand why when they had their first tiff last week and Tara said she was only grumpy because she found him so ........attractive, Darren feigned surprise, why hadn't she told him 6 years ago? Surely he already knew if there were notes back at the hotel?
Mesostim
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by serena


I don't understand why when they had their first tiff last week and Tara said she was only grumpy because she found him so ........attractive, Darren feigned surprise, why hadn't she told him 6 years ago? Surely he already knew if there were notes back at the hotel?
”

No - She was grumpy because she found him so attractive. That explains why she was grumpy - He thought there was another worthwhile excuse. He already knew that she found him attractive, but not that that was the cause of her sulking. Presumably she was being rejected by him.......
faequeen
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by mr_ray


Provide sold undeniable proof that Mrs H doesn't know these things for a fact and I will agree with you.
”

At the start of the series Darren accused Tara of being nasty to people in her column and Tara denied it. She said that she was never intentionally nasty only truthful, she assured him she would remember if she'd written anything bad because she was solely responsible for her articles.
Mesostim
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by faequeen


At the start of the series Darren accused Tara of being nasty to people in her column and Tara denied it. She said that she was never intentionally nasty only truthful, she assured him she would remember if she'd written anything bad because she was solely responsible for her articles.
”

Or is she?
faequeen
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by serena


I don't understand why when they had their first tiff last week and Tara said she was only grumpy because she found him so ........attractive, Darren feigned surprise, why hadn't she told him 6 years ago? Surely he already knew if there were notes back at the hotel?
”

He's a lying scumbag who thought he was the nations favourite and was devastated to find out he wasn't with 2 trials to prove it. He also had a re-think about how his girlfriend must be feeling and tried to do a whitewash over what had taken place.
The sorry excuse for a man twisted events to make Tara his scapegoat but as a few people have already stated (including your good self) he has landed himself in a sorry mess with his half truths and imaginary excuses. I've never seen a bloke like this before - I never knew the species existed.
johnno
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Sazz
Darren said to Nigel she has been sending them 2 or 3 times a day!
Then when asked to show them to Christine he says oh but there are two and ones in the hotel.
When Ant and Dec asked him he completely changed the subject.
”

he did say on ITV2 that maybe he ought not to have mentioned the notes. He's feeling embarrassed about it now.... so not a subject he wanted to dwell on too much, understandably, and it wasn't the only thing going on. The matter was brought up twice, first Ant&dec and then the other bird (who is she?!)... the interviews were a bit provoking and not as flattering as the others got imo. He looks like a very sad man.... it's a shame his gf wasn't there to meet him.
Indie
04-09-2002
Does he have an interview on Good Morning tomorrow (5 Sept)?
faequeen
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by nelly-j


yes she did see them, as did we . the night b4 last darren quietly asked christine what he should do about them and he showed the latest one to her. it was on cream paper with black ink writing.
christine isn't talking out of turn , she is acting as any of us would with someone who has such a high expectation of your total attention. don't vilify people for just giving their opinion, we all do it and if pressed we give it. it might not always be correct but remember it is only her opinion....she never claims it to be the gospel truth !
nelly - still wants christine to win....didn't like tara's smarminess tonight with regards to hearing all that was said....also poor show itv , that was very unfair to the celebs in camp.
”

I have to disagree with you, I never saw Christine read any note, I did hear her say to him today - 'come on let's see them'. to which he replied - 'I have 2 notes, one at the hotel - the best one' or words to that effect.

He did show Nigel a note (in the dark) but we have no proof that Tara wrote any notes - only DD's word which quite frankly isn't worth very much.
studley
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by johnno


he did say on ITV2 that maybe he ought not to have mentioned the notes. He's feeling embarrassed about it now.... so not a subject he wanted to dwell on too much,
”

I wonder if he'll say 'Lets just forget about the notes' ,or something like that, because they don't actually exist or are nothing like he claimed them to be?
What WAS Christine reading in that case? She seemed to act as if she hadn't seen any so what was he showing her the other day ?
The plot thickens Watson.
studley
04-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by faequeen


I have to disagree with you, I never saw Christine read any note, I did hear her say to him today - 'come on let's see them'. to which he replied - 'I have 2 notes, one at the hotel - the best one' or words to that effect.

He did show Nigel a note (in the dark) but we have no proof that Tara wrote any notes - only DD's word which quite frankly isn't worth very much.
”

He definitely showed her something the other day?????
magsiesss
05-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by studley
He definitely showed her something the other day????? ”

But was it a note ... and did she read it??

Christine, like most of us I believe, were led to believe that Tara had continually been writing notes to him whilst they were in the jungle ... only now it appears that Darren says ... no, there were three notes .... and all written whilst at the hotel.

How did we arrive at the conclusion Tara wrote letters whilst in the jungle - Darren .....

All we know is what Darren has told us so far, and his stories seem to conflict
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