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MP3 Players
TheCableGuy
10-09-2002
Can anyone suggest an MP3 player to me that has the following features:

- 128MB Ram
- Screen for text
- Small (shall we say pocket size)
- Stylish (perhaps metalic)
- And under £100

I have seen many of these but none have the most needed features.
pablos47
10-09-2002
Ever thought of trying one of Sony's Net MD players. These can record approx 80 mp3s onto one disc and play them back perfectly without loss of quality. I bought one for around £140. I know it's over £100 but it's a lot better than a MP3 player you'll find these are gradually being phased out and manufacturers are supporting Mini Disc style mp3 players. The mp3 transfer is all done through USB.
iain
11-09-2002
Hi,

I've had my trusty md walkman for a good while now, and would like to replace it eventually with net md one at some point.

Is the supplied software OK for transferring copyright free material, or does it all have to be MagicGate approved (or however it works)?

Also, is the connection 2-way? ie can you upload tracks from the MD player to the PC?

Cheers,
Iain

PS to the original post, I would definately second going down the MD route, especially now you can connect them direct to your pc. The thing I've always thought with mp3 players is that they're not very good for having a large collection of interchangable music. eg the cost of a sony memory stick (or equivalent) compared to the cost of a blank minidisc (now a mere pound!)
MicroSmurf
11-09-2002
Here I use a Freecom Beatman which uses mini (8cm) CDR's which hold up to 210MB. You burn your MP3's onto the mini CDR in the normal way and they play in the Beatman like a normal CD, it will also play normal 8cm CD singles too and the sound from the unit is great. You can pick them up now for not a lot of money if you look around, I think mine was less than £50 from a certain online auction site
dodgygeeza
11-09-2002
I have an Intel Pocket Concert, which meets your specs exactly, CableGuy. It has 128MB RAM, it has a backlit screen for display of menus, current track etc, it is definately pocket-sized (hence the Pocket Concert name ) and it has a lovely brushed aluminium body. It even has a built-in FM radio and plays WMA files too. Nice

Unfortunately it has been discontinued by Intel (sods law eh) but mine cost me £150 last year. I'm sure a quick search of Ebay would turn up some results.
jshah1
11-09-2002
u can upload tracks from a net md back on to a comp but the net md converts the mp3 into atrac or somthing b4 it writes to minidisk so u wont get mp3s back when uploading and also the quality does depend on the mode u choose, it converts mp3s to atrac at 2 different modes lp2 and lp4 with the latter quality is lost for space. u can also record strait sterio like CDs with which u can only have 74 to 80 mins worth of audio but at the same quality as original mp3 to CD.
TheCableGuy
12-09-2002
I had heard about netMD but i thought it was a very expensive alternative - but as you say £140 isnt bad at all, i still have a normal, i supose first generation (as in not LP ones) mini disk player that cost me £170 at the time

I might look up on these now.....


Cheers for all your help guys, it was much apreciated.
pablos47
12-09-2002
checkout Richersounds.com currently selling a reasonable NET MD recorder/player with USB transfer for only £134.95 - Sony MZN505.
Dan27
12-09-2002
Im always puzzled about spending £130 for a 128mb MP3 player when you could buy what I have (an Archos Jukebox - 20gb) for £400.. and it doubles up as a portable Hard Disk.. Ive got it encoding at 256 and its giving me 180 hours of music.. and I still have 4gb free on it..

For each his own I guess...
wakey
12-09-2002
I would personally hold off buying one. None of the current lower priced options are really adequate. Those using solid state memory have a limited capacity, those using CD have the same shock problems that a CD has and the MD has the problem of loss of quality due to the conversion from one compression type to another (Ok on a cheap pair of headphones like the ones supplied with the unit you wont notice too much but the loss is there) and the additional costs of buying the MD's

I would personally wait a while and save up so extra cash to get one of the hard drive based ones. The first generation of these was a little bulky but the second generation like apples ipod (which is one excellent peice of kit) use the new smaller portable drives making them no bigger than a normal mp3 player and as more of these type start flooding the market in the near future the price will dramatically fall. Now the current price tag for the 5gb version of £250 sounds a fair bit but thats about 1250 songs you can fit on the unit and you never need to buy any additional disks like you do with the mp3 player then it really doesnt seem as much and as ive said before these prices willstart to fall when the likes of creative realease their units using the same small harddrives
dodgygeeza
12-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by DanVitale
Im always puzzled about spending £130 for a 128mb MP3 player when you could buy what I have (an Archos Jukebox - 20gb) for £400.. and it doubles up as a portable Hard Disk.. Ive got it encoding at 256 and its giving me 180 hours of music.. and I still have 4gb free on it..

For each his own I guess...
”

The problem with HDD-based players is their unwieldy size and weight. They are also currently a little too pricey for some. A RAM-based MP3 player is far lighter and smaller, and fits into any pocket with room to spare, even with the extra cash in there too!

Although as Wakey said, the HDD-based models are shrinking all the time
Dan27
12-09-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by dodgygeeza
The problem with HDD-based players is their unwieldy size and weight. They are also currently a little too pricey for some. A RAM-based MP3 player is far lighter and smaller, and fits into any pocket with room to spare, even with the extra cash in there too!

Although as Wakey said, the HDD-based models are shrinking all the time
”

Yeah HDD based stuff is a bit bulky, but I got £100 off my player (got it for £260 when it was £360rrp, thanks to a voucher in PC Magazine ) when I bought it to replace my CD player which broke . To be honest they arnt bad, but the best sized ones are the Archos (theyre bringing out a video MP3 player soon!!!)

And also as I said, my one doubles up as a portable HD which is VERY handy for me
pablos47
12-09-2002
I think people will find that there is very little loss in quality once you have transfered your track to the NETMD. Trust me I've had one for long enough to know!!!
squawkBOX
13-09-2002
IF you are preparing to go all the way for a MP3 player - look at the Apple iPod (for PC and Mac). The only disadvantage is that it begins at £249 (that's a 5GB version 1,000+ songs). £329 (10GB version - 2,000+ songs) and the new one that Apple has launched is a £400 version (20GB and 4,000+)

Note: the way Apple coun't each song is eqv. to every one of them being encoded at 192k - so the majority of MP3s at 128k means you will get a lot more on.

http://www.apple.com/uk/ipod/
kate36
04-09-2006
I have some music on CD that I want to transfer to my MP3 player but when I try it via windows media it says windows has encountered an error and won't 'rip' the music. I have a LOGIK 3503 2GB player, can anyone advise?
cheers
kate
TheCableGuy
04-09-2006
Originally Posted by kate36:
“I have some music on CD that I want to transfer to my MP3 player but when I try it via windows media it says windows has encountered an error and won't 'rip' the music. I have a LOGIK 3503 2GB player, can anyone advise?
cheers
kate”

Did you consider asking this in a new thread rather than bringing a four year old thread back to life!

I was confused when i saw this thread pop up - it was sooo long ago that i first asked the original question.
dodgygeeza
05-09-2006
Blast from the past
Pingu
05-09-2006
Haha, it's quite amazing how times change - for under £100 now you could get something over 80x bigger 128mb
kate36
05-09-2006
my logik mp3 player has around 1 GB I think and i got mine from dixons for around £60-70 but it's not the most compatible on music sites in comparison to ipods etc
kate36
05-09-2006
[quote=TheCableGuy]Did you consider asking this in a new thread rather than bringing a four year old thread back to life!

I was confused when i saw this thread pop up - it was sooo long ago that i first asked the original question.[/QUOTE

righto
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