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Originally Posted by JasonW
No it isn't - it's still 01207 xxxxxx - Chester-le-Street (which when I was a lad had 4 digit local numbers, STD code 038588) got an 88 prefix and STD code of 0385, then became Durham 091388xxxx (87,89 numbers started to appear then too), then 01913xxxxxx.
Sorry 'bout that - I thought it had been chucked in wth 0191 when some of the other places around Tyneside stopped having their own code.
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Put the shovel down
![]() It's a lot less than those that use 00. Looks like you need someone to fetch you some ladders. |
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Originally Posted by BexTech
It's a lot less than those that use 00.
Looks like you need someone to fetch you some ladders. Wouldn't it be easier if you got yourself a JCB? No one suggested that 00 was not used by a lot of countries. What you said was: Quote:
Originally Posted by BexTech
...it's only a few countries like the USA and Australia that don't use the standard.
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Originally Posted by tvwatcher
does anyone remember the good old days when Going Live? on BBC1 number was
0181 811 8181 amazing how singing a number will never let you forget the god damn thing. its either that or i have got it half right. Might be Half BBC Going live / living and kicking AND / OR Nickelodeon!! its to early to try and be 100% sure. cos i think nickelodeon was 0800 801 801! (totallly different i now) Now i feel real old |
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I remember when it was 01 811 8181
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Originally Posted by dawson
I think you'll find that 00 is only the standard within the EU
There seem to be more than just 'a few countries' that don't use 00 around the world ![]() I don't see how the NANP is any better than the UK. In London you might get (745) 673 233 , (984) 347 837, (390) 383 393 and ALWAYS have to dial the area code, where smaller cities wouldn't have to dial the area code. The 02's are a good idea, smaller neighbouring towns budled together (e.g. the whole of Northern Ireland, Portsmouth & Southampton etc) - more people will lie in you local phone code. Mind you with the widespread adoption of mobiles I don't see why we don't adopt a closed numbering plan - i.e. you have to call 020 8811 8181 from anywhere in the UK, including London. I notice we havn't adopted the ENP though - where a number to Dublin would be 353 01 XXX XXX from anywhere in Europe (although TBH I don't really see what benefit it would gain over 00 353 01 XXX XXX anyway) |
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Originally Posted by BexTech
I remember when it was 01 811 8181
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Why cant new number just be generated like this for example i live in inverness.
Most numbers at the moment begin with 7,2 or an 8 so why cant they use 1, 3, 4, 5, 9 so you could have business numbers like 01463 123456 01463 345678 01463 987654 01463 456789 and residential number would be numbers like 01463 234567 01463 567890 01463 789012 01463 890123 is this not a good and easy way of introducing new numbers without, all the new numbers would only be asigned to new phone lines and no need for changing exsisting numbers. so london new numbers would be like this new business numbers 020 1234 5678 020 2345 6789 020 3456 7890 020 4567 8901 020 5678 9012 and new residential numbers could be 020 6789 0123 020 7890 1234 020 8901 2345 020 9012 3456 the numbers that would have to be left out would be ones that start 112, or 999, so that the phone network doesnt think that you are trying to make an emergency call |
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Originally Posted by Tenacious Pee
Why cant new number just be generated like this for example i live in inverness.
Most numbers at the moment begin with 7,2 or an 8 so why cant they use 1, 3, 4, 5, 9 They can and will and in many case do. For example Birmingham uses (0121) [2-7]nn nnnn Last edited by BexTech : 16-04-2006 at 14:23. |
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![]() I think they even used it for Crime Watch at one point. Then things got really confusing. I was in the hairdressers the other week and they had their new 020 3 number on the card, everyone that came in asked them if they made a mistake and it's supposed to be 020 8! Even though I know the area code is 020, it's really difficult not to think of it as 0207. I know a lot of people who, out of sheer confusion, dial the 020 at the front of the number when they don't need to. |
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Originally Posted by Tenacious Pee
Why cant new number just be generated like this for example i live in inverness.
Most numbers at the moment begin with 7,2 or an 8 so why cant they use 1, 3, 4, 5, 9 Quote:
the numbers that would have to be left out would be ones that start 112, or 999, so that the phone network doesnt think that you are trying to make an emergency call
I think that numbers starting with a 0 or 1 (e.g. 0115 0 or 0115 1) are used for DDI redirection purposes only to avoid those issues. Also numbers starting 99 can't be used in case people accidently prefix a local number with a 9 (as I have to at work - e.g. 9 0115 XXX X XXX) when at home
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Originally Posted by *Bex*
How about this for random... until late 2004 I lived in Blackheath, Lewisham, SE3.
We had a BT line in the lounge at the front of the flat and an NTL line running into the back of the flat. The BT line at the front was an 020 8 number and the NTL line 020 7 Go figure... |
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There should no longer be a need for a complete nationwide number change. At the last change BT completely restructured every single number as follows (if I remember correctly)
01 - Domestic & Business numbers nationwide (with some exceptions) 02 - London (and 6 or 7 other major cities - sorry I don't get out much and can't remember which!) 03 - Reserved for future use 04 - Reserved for future use 05 - Reserved for future use 06 - Reserved for future use 07 - Mobiles and Personal numbers 08 - Freefone & LoCall numbers (non geographical numbers) 09 - Premium rate numbers 00 - International Numbers So if a city exhausted all of its potential numbers it could be moved to an 03, 04, 05 or 06 number, therefore meaning a potential of billions of numbers still available. In theory, there should only be local changes in future, not nationwide. But then BT being BT may decide one day that they are bored... |
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I didn't realise it was BT, there was me thinking it was OFTEL/OFCOM that decided on the number change.
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Originally Posted by scottsw4
Becauce 020 is no longer geographical as far as London goes, 020 IS London, the 7 or 8 that was added to the old local number is no longer geographically connected in the way 0181 or 0171 was, you could of ended up with a 3 as that is now in use!
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Originally Posted by BexTech
I didn't realise it was BT, there was me thinking it was OFTEL/OFCOM that decided on the number change.
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No worries, easy enough to do.
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Originally Posted by BexTech
I didn't realise it was BT, there was me thinking it was OFTEL/OFCOM that decided on the number change.
In 1995, there were two resources of which you could obtain information about the changes. For BT line users, they were given a distinctive number to call which I think it was 0800-010101 which was to inform people of the new 01 codes. The other resource was Mercury's which was for Mercury and Cable customers. In 2000, there were two resources of the campaign. BT's National code and number enquiry service for BT line users and The Big Number helpline for non-BT line users. Since competition has grown, Ofcom will run the show in future. |
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Does anyone know the code for Wakefield - I thought it was 01924 but my phone says 0118 and directs me to a paying directory enquiries
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01924 is indeed Wakefield. 0118 is Reading.
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I was part of the Mercury national project team for the Big Number Change in 2000, with loads of least cost routing smart boxes and sockets to deal with! Our project manager had nerves of steel, as we thought she'd go for blanket coverage with engineers on standby in each area of the country as they switched over, in case customers' LCR systems fell over. She went for the minimum cover and was right each time. I'd hate to play poker with her!
![]() Technology moves on and more devices are now remotely programmable, so I guess any future changes wouldn't be such a nail biting event. |
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Must have had a brain meltdown from sitting at the same desk for so many years, but with three different company names on the wall outside. Of course it was C&W UK by 2000, not Mercury!
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Originally Posted by swingaleg
My number code has already changed twice........01 to 0171, then 0171 to 0207...........
![]() 01- to 071- 071- to 0171- 0171- to 020-7 Isn^t that 3 times!!!!!
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Perhaps the answer is to scrap the "0", which is a leftover from the days when "0" connected you to the STD switching equipment with its registers and translators, and just have a 10 figure numbering scheme. Forget the code and numerial way of doing things...you just always dial all digits.
I mean you drop the "0" when calling the UK from an international location. Its +44 then the UK number WITHOUT the "0" Then we could use "0" for something else (the Operator?)
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Originally Posted by mrfreeview
0171- to 020-7
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