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Old 02-05-2006, 20:58
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18866 increase connection charge to 5p.

Though by now you should have switched to 1899 who charge 3p connection.
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Old 02-05-2006, 22:19
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When I started using 18866, their connection charge was 1p. I stopped when it reached 4p. They must be losing customers hand over fist now.

A call via BT after 6 and at weekend is 5p, the same as 18866. A short call to a mobile via 18866 on a weekend is 8p (3p per minute plus 5p connection. Via BT it's 5p.
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Old 02-05-2006, 22:25
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Yes, I joined 18866 when it was 1p connection and 1p/min, that dropped to 0.5p per min, then 0p per min, though the connection has slowly crept up.

As I already had 1899 as well as 18866, I started using 1899 for landline calls when they wen't to 3p.

18185 offer cheaper calls to mobiles.
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Old 02-05-2006, 22:34
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Originally Posted by BexTech

Though by now you should have switched to 1899 who charge 3p connection.
Wonder how long that'll last...
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Old 02-05-2006, 22:38
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Not sure, it's been 3p since they launched, and stayed at 3p when 18866 put the connection up to 4p.
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Old 02-05-2006, 22:39
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Let's hope so...

Thought they were all the same firm???
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Old 02-05-2006, 22:40
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Yeah, they are.
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Old 02-05-2006, 23:26
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The weird thing is that to call UK mobiles they are all beaten by Phonecheap, even though they use an 0844 number to connect you, at 2p per minute 24/7. As you are dialling the number via BT, the usual BT minimum charge of 5.5p applies as soon as you connect to the Phonecheap number, but it still saves a packet on the normal BT rates.

I've programmed my orchid electronics LCR box with three different companies, so thankfully I don't have to keep remembering who is cheapest for what and when.
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:08
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I just had a look at my 18866 invoices and a year ago it was 2p connection fee. When I joined it was a penny.
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Old 21-05-2006, 20:39
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When I joined it was 1p connection and 1p per minute (UK Landline), and that seemed like a tremendous bargain.

Then it went down to 1/2p per minute, then just the 1p connection charge.

It's been going up ever since and I think it's a really slimey way to behave, in that they never email you to tell you that they are increasing the cost by 100%, 50%, 33% abd 25%.

I suspect they hope they'll keep customers who don't notice or cannot be bothered to change suppliers, whilst having 1899 available so that they still get the business of those customers who do care about being ripped off.
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Old 21-05-2006, 21:22
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Oh come on. BT charge 3p per minute (minimum call charge 5.5p) for UK 01/02 calls weekdays and 5.5p for a call of up to an hour evenings and weekends.

1899 charge 3p connection and 0p per minute for a call of any duration at any time to any UK 01/02 number.

Even 18866's 5p connection and 0p per minute is a bargain when compared to BT.

I know who's keeping my business.
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Old 21-05-2006, 21:38
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Originally Posted by Heinz
Oh come on. BT charge 3p per minute (minimum call charge 5.5p) for UK 01/02 calls weekdays and 5.5p for a call of up to an hour evenings and weekends.

1899 charge 3p connection and 0p per minute for a call of any duration at any time to any UK 01/02 number.

Even 18866's 5p connection and 0p per minute is a bargain when compared to BT.

I know who's keeping my business.
I agree 18866 still makes sense for day time calls, in the evening use your free minutes on your mobile, an hours call only uses up three minutes air time on Voda, or use BT, I'm now about £40 in credit with them.

Of course if I could be bothered I'd use voip.

The big problem is find an non 0870/0845 number for some companies. Saynoto0870 is a good site but doesn't have them all.
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Old 22-05-2006, 13:36
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Originally Posted by jim4bb
I agree 18866 still makes sense for day time calls, in the evening use your free minutes on your mobile, an hours call only uses up three minutes air time on Voda, or use BT, I'm now about £40 in credit with them.
Free minutes?

How does that work then?

My calls cost 15p/minute.
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Old 22-05-2006, 14:08
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Originally Posted by jim4bb
or use BT, I'm now about £40 in credit with them.
I'm not in the habit of giving multibillion dollar corporations interest free loans - I'd be asking for that credit back instantly, or that they pay me interest on it.
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Old 22-05-2006, 15:33
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Originally Posted by jim4bb
in the evening use your free minutes on your mobile, an hours call only uses up three minutes air time on Voda
Didn't realise that! Cheers Jim. No wonder I always carry over loads of unused minutes

From Vodafones T&C's:

The first three minutes of a call that qualifies for Vodafone Stop The Clock will be deducted from your bundle or charged at the standard rate under your price plan for such a call as appropriate and then the next 57 minutes of that call are free.
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Old 22-05-2006, 23:40
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Originally Posted by Heinz
Oh come on. BT charge 3p per minute (minimum call charge 5.5p) for UK 01/02 calls weekdays and 5.5p for a call of up to an hour evenings and weekends.

1899 charge 3p connection and 0p per minute for a call of any duration at any time to any UK 01/02 number.

Even 18866's 5p connection and 0p per minute is a bargain when compared to BT.

I know who's keeping my business.
That's funny - BT charge me NOTHING for my 01/02 calls?!?!?!?

Together Option 3?

And no - it is not cheaper for me to have anything else (18866 etc) - lots of very short calls all day (GF likes to natter here and there)
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Old 23-05-2006, 08:31
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That's funny - BT charge me NOTHING for my 01/02 calls?!?!?!?
Yeah they charge you nothing apart from the premium over standard line rental
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Old 23-05-2006, 20:05
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Originally Posted by simax
That's funny - BT charge me NOTHING for my 01/02 calls?!?!?!?

Together Option 3?

And no - it is not cheaper for me to have anything else (18866 etc) - lots of very short calls all day (GF likes to natter here and there)
Are you sure?

Do you never go on holiday?

If you pay £25.50 every month for BT Together Option 3, you pay £14.50 every month for those so-called 'free' calls.

Using 1899, you could make 433 calls of unlimited duration each month (16 calls per day, every day [even when you're away on holiday]) for that money.

If you had Primus Saver Option 2 as your CPS, you'd get free evening and weekend calls to UK 01/02 numbers - so that £14.50 would pay for 433 weekday daytime calls (Monday to Friday between 08:00 and 18:00) - more than even my wife can make (particularly when we're away on holiday).
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Old 23-05-2006, 21:46
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Originally Posted by Heinz
Are you sure?
Yes.

Originally Posted by Heinz
Do you never go on holiday?
No. Too busy working.

Originally Posted by Heinz
If you pay £25.50 every month for BT Together Option 3, you pay £14.50 every month for those so-called 'free' calls.
Yes I know. In much the same way that mobile companies offer you "free calls" for more line rental.

Originally Posted by Heinz
Using 1899, you could make 433 calls of unlimited duration each month (16 calls per day, every day [even when you're away on holiday]) for that money.
Yes I know.

Originally Posted by Heinz
If you had Primus Saver Option 2 as your CPS.......
Let me stop you there - Primus couldn't even get my CPS connected - after 4 attempts at trying, they even quoted me as signing up for something totally different than to what I requested.

As for 1899/18866/18185 etc, I find the call quality far inferior, sometimes the CLI does not present, and there are NO customer service lines.

Just Dial saver (now part of that "wonderful" empire that is Talk Schmalk) - bunch of t**ts.

That, and for many other reasons, means I will stay with BT.

She does not make 433 calls a month, more along the lines of about 8 short calls a day (so about 240), but at least they connect 1st time, there are no codes to punch in etc, and it's just less hassle.
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Old 24-05-2006, 16:41
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Originally Posted by simax
She does not make 433 calls a month, more along the lines of about 8 short calls a day (so about 240), but at least they connect 1st time, there are no codes to punch in etc, and it's just less hassle.
Dialer boxes are available, so you dont have to dial codes at all.

My uncle and aunt, who are not very technical at all manage to use my 1899 account on their line with no problems at all. I've asked if it connects ok all the time, and apparently it does.

Of course if you are happy with BT, thats ok, they need some people who are prepared to pay!
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Old 25-05-2006, 16:03
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bt supply a far superior service as far as voice quality alot of these so called cheep providers use hevaly compressed voip and there service is appaling
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Old 25-05-2006, 16:24
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bt supply a far superior service as far as voice quality alot of these so called cheep providers use hevaly compressed voip and there service is appaling
Have you ever tried this low cost carrier? I challenge you to tell the difference in call quality.
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Old 25-05-2006, 20:31
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Originally Posted by madasahat
bt supply a far superior service as far as voice quality alot of these so called cheep providers use hevaly compressed voip and there service is appaling
If that's your experience of them, stay with BT. I'm sure they won't thank you though.

In the 5 or more years I've been using various CPS and prefix-dial providers, I've only had problems with audio quality on a couple of calls.

And I've saved a fortune.
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Old 25-05-2006, 20:50
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i work for a independant pabx instlation and maintanance company and i know who i would rather report a problem to i will give you a example last week i reported a dead isdn 30 crct to one of these so called providers and asked for a divert i was advised that they couldnt set a divert cant i do it on the pabx !!!!! a little dificult as the lines are dead??? also for amount of conplaints about disconections and call drop they are far worse than bt
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Old 25-05-2006, 21:45
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I'm sure everyone agrees BT provides an excellent good quality service but it all comes at a price. I use 18866 during the day, the quality of calls is excellent and I've never had a connection problem. In the evenings 18866 seems to get busy, I then use BT it costs almost the same. If it works for you then all well and good.

If I want to dial international I refer to the niftylist website and find the cheapest provider. I'll stick with BT option one, I still only pay 18866 about £2 a month.

My wife uses her mobile to contact me if I'm out using her contract minutes.
I'm a tight ass I have a PAYG mobile ring her, let it ring three times and she calls me back. That way I pay nothing and she can use up all her time.
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