Shahbaz Was Disowned By His Family

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charlie1

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by brazzur:
“I get offended and outraged by people like Shabaz because I think it's all over the top, it's an act and he's extremely annoying. I dont care if he's gay, straight, muslim, catholic, whatever. He's on my TV, he's representing my city and he's very annoying, very embarassing and he's making what was one my favourite TV show virtually unbarable to watch.”

I agree with you that sometimes he's way over the top, like when he was talking to the camera in the shower room today, that was play acting for the benefit of himself and also attention seeking.

justin1972uk

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by charlie1:
“that was play acting for the benefit of himself and also attention seeking.”

They're all attention-seekers!

NoelRock

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by grannyzee:
“I'm glad you answered Mozza. I had a feeling that I'd be accused of racism, which would be completely ridiculous, so I'm relieved that you feel the same way.”

If certain sects of Islam doesn't tolerate homosexuality, then I can't tolerate that aspect of Islam.

Or, in other words, I can't tolerate intolerance.

Widgey

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by justin1972uk:
“They're all attention-seekers!”

exactly or they wouldn't be on the show!!

kyri

20-05-2006

SHAHBAZ TO WIN!!

Well,even if he doesn't i'm certain he will be this year's main HM

TellyBoy

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“That is sad but it does not explain why he is a total ********.”

If his da was hitting him about the head then it would explain everything.

gizmoBB

20-05-2006

Nice to see some of you find domestic violence so funny.

Widgey

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by gizmoBB:
“Nice to see some of you find domestic violence so funny.”

I know! I don't get it either!!

justin1972uk

20-05-2006

There's some rampant homophobia on the boards this year - and it's sad to see some non-heterosexuals join in.

IHateSpeedBumps

20-05-2006

It does explain a lot about his initial behaviour.

Actually, I thought he was very funny.

I wouldn't be surprised if, underneath all that campyness is a heart of gold and that it will gradually be revealed and the BB viewers will fall for him...he could easily win.

SWW (SWW)

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by gizmoBB:
“Nice to see some of you find domestic violence so funny.”

'domestic violence'?

It was a Muslim(?) father being absolutely outraged at his son wearing high heels in a public arena... an 'honour' beating / assault

I'd say it was more a cultural issue... his father behaviour cannot be excused... but as some other posters have mentioned Shabaz was fully aware of the dire consequences (although not realising how bad they would be) of his actions, but went on regardless.

I am in no way excusing his father's actions.... violence, and especially extreme violence to a child is completely intolerable and dispicable

Regards

morning

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by grannyzee:
“Well, we are told on a daily basis, by people in power, that we sould be more tolerant of others' religious beliefs, but why does this very sad story not surprise me?

I wonder if Shahbaz's father was showing his idea of 'tolerance' when he was hammering his son for going against his own beliefs.

While something like this is considered acceptable behaviour in some Muslim countries, I'm afraid all it does to me is show how lucky we are that it's not accepted here and NEVER SHOULD BE, no matter how 'tolerant' we are told we should be. If people want to behave in this way, I honestly believe they should stay somewhere where these barbaric acts are accepted as a way of life.”

I don't think Shahbaz would have survived his ordeal in a muslim country where his father could possibly have walked away a free man after killing his son. On the other hand, I think it highly unlikely that Shahbaz would have worn high heels to school in a muslim country.

Poor guy.

morning

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by SWW (SWW):
“'domestic violence'?

It was a Muslim(?) father being absolutely outraged at his son wearing high heels in a public arena... an 'honour' beating / assault

I'd say it was more a cultural issue... his father behaviour cannot be excused... but as some other posters have mentioned Shabaz was fully aware of the dire consequences (although not realising how bad they would be) of his actions, but went on regardless.

I am in no way excusing his father's actions.... violence, and especially extreme violence to a child is completely intolerable and dispicable

Regards”

I thought "honour beatings/assaults/killings" were illegal - against the law - in this country, no matter what the cultural origin. In fact, it is against the law in this country for an adult to strike a child with his fist let alone a hammer. I can't understand why this father was allowed custody of his children after such a brutal act.

TellyBoy

20-05-2006

Well the same thing happened to Ned Flanders from The Simpsons. He was an unruly child and was spanked for a whole year and that's why he turned out like he did. Ned ended up at the mental hospital years later because he couldn't express himself properly.

Sadly, I can see this happening to Shahbaz. :sleep:

grannyzee

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by TellyBoy:
“Well the same thing happened to Ned Flanders from The Simpsons. He was an unruly child and was spanked for a whole year and that's why he turned out like he did. Ned ended up at the mental hospital years later because he couldn't express himself properly.

Sadly, I can see this happening to Shahbaz. :sleep:”

Well TellyBoy. Anthony Hutton would only have two words to say to you. CAR...TOON.

TellyBoy

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by grannyzee:
“Well TellyBoy. Anthony Hutton would only have two words to say to you. CAR...TOON. ”

Yes granny, it was in a classic episode of a cartoon but the moral is still there. Beat your kid and who knows what they'll turn out like.

Crystalline22

20-05-2006

Isn't it a no-no to be a gay muslim in their society?

Widgey

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by SWW (SWW):
“'domestic violence'?

It was a Muslim(?) father being absolutely outraged at his son wearing high heels in a public arena... an 'honour' beating / assault

I'd say it was more a cultural issue... his father behaviour cannot be excused... but as some other posters have mentioned Shabaz was fully aware of the dire consequences (although not realising how bad they would be) of his actions, but went on regardless.

I am in no way excusing his father's actions.... violence, and especially extreme violence to a child is completely intolerable and dispicable

Regards”

Its domestic violence either way! The law in this country is that you cannot do that type of thing to people. Not just kids, but anyone!

We as a country are welcoming to all religions and people, but we have laws and people like Shahbaz's father should keep to them!!

I wonder how light he would get off telling the judge it was his religion!? Not light at all, I can tell you that!!

grannyzee

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by TellyBoy:
“Yes granny, it was in a classic episode of a cartoon but the moral is still there. Beat your kid and who knows what they'll turn out like.”

I love the Simpsons. Have you seen this video? You'll need your sound turned on.

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1267/

_drak

20-05-2006

I recall Kemal claiming he was a liberal muslim, which implies his parents are also followers, and yet the antics he got upto both inside and out of the house in full view of his parents eclipsed this incident, and I don't recall his father wielding a hammer at any time.
I would put this down to culture rather than religion, Turkey being a rather liberal country, certainly one of the only Islamic ones where any right-thinking person would bear to live, and Pakistan being quite the opposite.

TellyBoy

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by grannyzee:
“I love the Simpsons. Have you seen this video? You'll need your sound turned on.

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1267/”

Haha. Nice one.

Riseholme

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by johnno:
“OK... I dunno how many of you guys who posted to this thread actually bothered to read the story:
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HOUSEMATE Shahbaz Chaudhdry was battered by his father in an "honour beating" hammer attack after he was caught wearing high heels to school.

Shahbaz, 37, was later disowned by his strict Muslim family after admitting he was gay.

Shocked friends watched as his father Muzammil - who was later prosecuted for assault - beat him with a claw hammer outside his school in Glasgow.

Former school pal Fiaz Ahmed said: "After that, as far as I know, Shahbaz never went back home."
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The aspect of this which i'll comment on is as follows, which is NOT to defend his father in any way. But Shahbaz MUST have known how simply terrible this action would have been to his family, and that would be for MOST families, let alone a muslim one.

I cannot get into the mind of this man. But it is clearly an indication of a totally self-obsessed 'me me me me' approach to life and sod everyone else, even his own family. He is totally selfish and disrespectful. He could have waited until he was older, moved away from home, and then played out whatever fantasies he wanted too, without rubbing the noses of his father and mother into it too.

To be honest, this is Shahbaz all over. And he seems to be lacking any concept of appropriate behaviour... and revels in being a victim. I could go on...”

Your blame the victim attitude is truly disgusting. So Shahbaz deserved to be beaten with a hammer because his über-religious f*ckwit of a father was offended by a pair of f*cking high heels? Get a grip, get some morals and get out of here until you are prepared to act like a decent human being.

pickwick

20-05-2006

I'm so pleased to see so many people are willing to condemn an entire religion because of what it says in the Daily Mirror(!!) about one person in that religion. True tolerance, that is.

DoveInGrey

20-05-2006

I agree with justin1972 that being repressed has made him how he is to rebel from that. There is no excuse for domestic abuse.

justin1972uk

20-05-2006

Originally Posted by Riseholme:
“Your blame the victim attitude is truly disgusting. So Shahbaz deserved to be beaten with a hammer because his über-religious f*ckwit of a father was offended by a pair of f*cking high heels? Get a grip, get some morals and get out of here until you are prepared to act like a decent human being.”

Thank God for some common sense!

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