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Homechoice And Hd
dpvod
30-05-2006
Does anyone know when Homechoice plan to start HD broadcasting..is it dependent on all the exchanges being upgraded or is it technically not possible at present.
I have phoned customer care who are less than helpful...would appreciate any thoughts on this.
Peter We
30-05-2006
Well, they are still upgrading exchanges until past mid June, so not before then. Other than that, depend whether they can afford to give us a new STB or charge £300 like Sky do. Their HD launch was described as imminent a few weeks ago by a HC boss.
pissedbob
30-05-2006
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“Their HD launch was described as imminent a few weeks ago by a HC boss.”

While I don't doubt they're working on this, can you give us a source for this info?
Peter We
30-05-2006
Its was a comment on a media site, can't remember where. Not importantly really, beleive it when you see it .
johnnyrocker
30-05-2006
my sentiments exactly because hc are not a broadcaster per se so afaik the relevant encoding decoding etc poses quite large problems for them, all of course requiring significant funding
Peter We
31-05-2006
I think they would have to upgrade their decoders to support HDTV. Given that there is only one upgrade they could make - to HDTV - I assumed that is what they were currently doing.
M_at
31-05-2006
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“I think they would have to upgrade their decoders to support HDTV. Given that there is only one upgrade they could make - to HDTV - I assumed that is what they were currently doing.”

Not quite - they could be offering dual box functionality through the second ethernet port.

An upgrade to the DSLAM to enable ADSL2+ and to channel 2 streams would be needed here as well.
Nikhil
31-05-2006
well, the line upgrades are for enabling ADSL2+, though i'm not sure whether HC will be oging HD in the imminent future, i severely doubt it.
Peter We
01-06-2006
Why would you need adsl2+ unless it came with HDTV? whats the point?
Rufus Londinii
01-06-2006
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“Why would you need adsl2+ unless it came with HDTV? whats the point?”

Interactive Services?

The Football First Premiership Contract is probably going to be expired before they bring this in...
M_at
01-06-2006
Having more than one box?
Providing 8Mb Internet and TV at the same time?
Higher upstream speeds?
Providing better service to more people?

There are lots of reasons apart from HD - although in the current hyped up HD world I agree it seems the most likely.
Peter We
01-06-2006
BT Vision may be ok, but until its on the market its no competition to anybody. Once its out, HC will have to do something, as will all ISP's which is why they are thinking of wholesaling their services toother ISP's. To survive, ISP's are going to have to offer every service, because price discounting alone isn't the way.
captaincaveman
02-06-2006
Well at least we know the IP-STB technology is in place:

http://www.hdtvuk.tv/2006/06/ukbased_company.html

Any ideas who supplies the Homechoice STBs?

Come on Homechoice, I want my HD!
M_at
02-06-2006
Well a brief search on google reveals that HomeChoice is a customer of Amino's.
captaincaveman
02-06-2006
Well that's good news at least. The bandwidth is nearly available, seems like it wouldn't be difficult to get their hands on the STBs needed. So what have they got left? Upgrading the encoders and licensing the HD content. So they just need the money...shall we start a whip-round
Rich_Hard
07-06-2006
If anyone wants to know, i just spoke with some techie guys from Homechoice, who have told me whats going on over the coming year.

In the South of Ireland they are currently testing the new ADSL line/HD STB on a clear Telephone line through a company called Arcom.

If all goes well, we could be seeing the first STB's, capable of receiving the new rate of 24mbps to display HD signal plus Internet download speeds of upto 3-4 times what we currently have at the moemnt. (12-18, thats not the upto speed, the actual speed!! All this in around 3-6 Months time, apparently!

There is a downfall, the cost, they did not explain, but it will be substantial due to the cost of upgrading the lines upto copper which is still being done as we speak, apparently its a better conductor and can carry a higher signal constantly for greater distances.

So yes, new STB, Fast Internet, and all in lovely HD, you gotta love it!!
Peter We
08-06-2006
What do you mean 'upgrading the lines to copper'? Lines are already copper.

Do they mean better quality copper at the exchange? or will they give us new higher quality connections by replacing the existing wiring to house?
(years ago Easynet were going to do this for a business ADSL LLU line, they could then guarantee its quality)
Nikhil
09-06-2006
Originally Posted by Rich_Hard:
“If anyone wants to know, i just spoke with some techie guys from Homechoice, who have told me whats going on over the coming year.

In the South of Ireland they are currently testing the new ADSL line/HD STB on a clear Telephone line through a company called Arcom.

If all goes well, we could be seeing the first STB's, capable of receiving the new rate of 24mbps to display HD signal plus Internet download speeds of upto 3-4 times what we currently have at the moemnt. (12-18, thats not the upto speed, the actual speed!! All this in around 3-6 Months time, apparently!

There is a downfall, the cost, they did not explain, but it will be substantial due to the cost of upgrading the lines upto copper which is still being done as we speak, apparently its a better conductor and can carry a higher signal constantly for greater distances.

So yes, new STB, Fast Internet, and all in lovely HD, you gotta love it!!”

Months.....haha, more like a couple of years with homechoice!
Zapomatic
09-06-2006
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“What do you mean 'upgrading the lines to copper'? Lines are already copper.

Do they mean better quality copper at the exchange? or will they give us new higher quality connections by replacing the existing wiring to house?
(years ago Easynet were going to do this for a business ADSL LLU line, they could then guarantee its quality)”

I think some people are unlucky to have aluminium phone lines which were cheaper to install but are very much inferior to copper when data is thrown in.
captaincaveman
09-06-2006
If this is true then this is good news!
Peter We
10-06-2006
Originally Posted by Zapomatic:
“I think some people are unlucky to have aluminium phone lines which were cheaper to install but are very much inferior to copper when data is thrown in.”

Thanks, didn't know that.

http://www.ja.net/development/networ...technical.html

Quote:
“What if BT says I have fibre in my line?
DSL will work over copper wire cables. Aluminium wiring may be possible, but this depends on the amount it has degraded over time. If your phone line has any fibre optic cable between you and the exchange you will not be able have DSL services.
If BT installed the DSLAM at the point where the fibre optic cable was split out onto individual copper lines it would be possible for BT to provide DSL services. At present though BT are only deploying DSLAMs inside exchanges. ”

zenith52
12-06-2006
The BT Local Loop is Copper (some Aluminium), but no fibre as far as I am aware.

Only the Cable Companies (ntl:Telewest) use a Fibre to the Kerb model AFAIK?

Zen
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