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Why Is Lisa Getting Slagged Off For Playing A Blinder And Nominating Nikki????
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bom-jiggy
19-06-2006
Originally Posted by Agamemnon:
“Firstly it's not very fair.

Secondly it's a dumbass move if she thinks like that anyway, because all of the others just went straight in a nominated her afterwards anyway. She should have put more people up with her then had a better chance.”

At that point, I don't think they knew the others were also going to vote
bom-jiggy
19-06-2006
Originally Posted by ludovica:
“She just didn't think it through at all.... the more people are up, the better the chance of survival.... Flocking instinct.”

Are you forgetting her paranoia . She thinks once she's up, she's out
robbies_gal
19-06-2006
Originally Posted by Agamemnon:
“Firstly it's not very fair.

Secondly it's a dumbass move if she thinks like that anyway, because all of the others just went straight in a nominated her afterwards anyway. She should have put more people up with her then had a better chance.”

exactly!

she would have had a muc h better chance against lea and now its just going to be her and nikki shes actually done heraself harm
Elphinstone
19-06-2006
She could have picked LEA or anyone else.Her and sly Glyn
the sleekit Welshboy picked Nikki delibrately...

But if thickki Nikki had thought first she should have picked
Glyn and got rid of the Welsh Whinger...

Nikki is the new Jade she won't win but will be in at the end and probably make the most from BB7
lizzy dripping
19-06-2006
Originally Posted by Stentionhouse:
“What is it with HMs desperately trying to stay in the house when the public dislike them? If I was in there and knew the public wanted me out, I'd wanna be gone ASAP.”

I'm with you on that one ... although to be fair to Lisa she doesn't actually know she is unpopular outside (OK, she probably has an idea, but as they all think they will be the one to go when up for eviction, then you probably can't put too much faith in their ideas!)

To be honest, if I there with no chance of actually winning, then I would want to be out as soon as possible.

I also think that if BB had wanted them to nominate face to face then they should have given them something like a little chalk board to use - so in a weakest link-stylee they could have written down the names first - so they couldn't see how the others had cast their vote, and not have the opportunity to strategically change theirs.
morning
19-06-2006
Originally Posted by bom-jiggy:
“Are you forgetting her paranoia . She thinks once she's up, she's out ”

She's definitely psychic as well as paranoid.
Candice
19-06-2006
Originally Posted by Agamemnon:
“Firstly it's not very fair.

Secondly it's a dumbass move if she thinks like that anyway, because all of the others just went straight in a nominated her afterwards anyway. She should have put more people up with her then had a better chance.”

Like I said, in there I think it's every man for himself and I'm not sure Lisa looked that far ahead (ie her chances of survival against 5) - I think she just went on instinct.

Remember that she and Glyn had conspired to put Nikki up and this is a way to do it regardless of who might be up up with her (Lisa was expecting to be up).

I think this was a good opportunity for Lisa to try to take Nikki out due to her friendship with Pete.
morning
19-06-2006
Originally Posted by Elphinstone:
“She could have picked LEA or anyone else.Her and sly Glyn
the sleekit Welshboy picked Nikki delibrately...

But if thickki Nikki had thought first she should have picked
Glyn and got rid of the Welsh Whinger...

Nikki is the new Jade she won't win but will be in at the end and probably make the most from BB7”

She really didn't expect Lisa to nominate her. I was watching live feed around 5ish and she said to Lisa, "I thought we were best friends, I would never ever have nominated you".
Fio Montoya
19-06-2006
The very reason Lisa and Glynn were being punished, is for discussing how they could get rid of Nikki. The only person who has actually been punished, is Nikki.

A decent person would have done the obvious thing, and made sure they were all up.
morning
19-06-2006
Does anyone know the order of the nominations?
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by lizzy dripping:
“I'm with you on that one ... although to be fair to Lisa she doesn't actually know she is unpopular outside (OK, she probably has an idea, but as they all think they will be the one to go when up for eviction, then you probably can't put too much faith in their ideas!)

To be honest, if I there with no chance of actually winning, then I would want to be out as soon as possible.

I also think that if BB had wanted them to nominate face to face then they should have given them something like a little chalk board to use - so in a weakest link-stylee they could have written down the names first - so they couldn't see how the others had cast their vote, and not have the opportunity to strategically change theirs.”

This is the best theory I've heard so far! I wonder why BB didn't think of that
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by morning:
“She really didn't expect Lisa to nominate her. I was watching live feed around 5ish and she said to Lisa, "I thought we were best friends, I would never ever have nominated you".”

Well, Glyn got punished for saying thesame thing to Imogen so if Nikki stays, she should be banned next time around
lumpbottom
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by bom-jiggy:
“Well, Glyn got punished for saying thesame thing to Imogen so if Nikki stays, she should be banned next time around ”

Just throw her out.
mastergully
20-06-2006
because she was an extra from gremlins
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by mastergully:
“because she was an extra from gremlins”

An extra . I thought she was one of the main characters
tubmonsterbirds
20-06-2006
I think Lisa just went off how she felt - she likes Glynn and imogen more and I think has some respect for Lea...but I don't think she can work Nikki out...
Lisa is just a simple person who I think just nominated on instinct.
JTW
20-06-2006
BB should've just punished them all by putting them all up for eviction....after the other unpunished ones did their nominations. That way we would have had someone else from the other side up as well.

It would've been far more exciting.
Balti
20-06-2006
I don't think any of the naughty gang nominated tactically - they just didn't have time (or the brains) to think it through. The only one who perhaps would have played more tactically would have been Glyn - IF he had been the last to nominate.
Lea and Imogen were half way there with their tit for tat noms and then IMHO, Lisa and Nikki were trying to do the same, perhaps forgetting that Glyn had already nominated Nikki or in the belief that every name mentioned would be up for eviction and therefore it would be the 4 of them.
MeMeMe2
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by bom-jiggy:
“Well, she knew if she'd picked Glyn then all 5 of them (the rule-breakers) would automatically be up for eviction. To have a slim chance of avoiding being up for the vote herself, she nominated Nikki. What's wrong with that ”

Blinder? Playing a blinder is getting yourself evicted?

That's the likely outcome.
Dante Ameche
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Ameri:
“According to the odds the bookies are currently offering, they obviousl know (insider knowledge) that Lisa is up for eviction this week. So she will be out and Nikki will survive again.”



Not that I'm defending the bookies but what is this insider knowledge of which you speak?

If you've read any thread over the last week or so it's obvious that Lisa isn't much liked. Richard and Lea arn't that far behind in the get him/ her out now stakes so it isn't too difficult to see why the bookies would have her as the fav to go next

Unless she's the kinda person that knows she rubs people up the wrong way in the outside world [often and easily ] then she would have little idea on how shes percieved out here
radio-one
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by tubmonsterbirds:
“I think Lisa just went off how she felt - she likes Glynn and imogen more and I think has some respect for Lea...but I don't think she can work Nikki out...
Lisa is just a simple person who I think just nominated on instinct.”

Yes I agree with that. And I don't think she is wrong to nominate Nikki. (I don't want Nikki to go but I think it is fair for Lisa to nominate Nikki.)
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by MeMeMe2:
“Blinder? Playing a blinder is getting yourself evicted?

That's the likely outcome.”

Like I said before, she was holding on to a slim chance that she might not be up for the vote. Putting Glyn up and Nikki putting her up would have automatically put her (Lisa) up for the vote. BTW, how do we know Nikki wouldn't have saved herself by picking someone else, assuming Lisa hadn't picked her and had picked Glyn instead
B10nd13
20-06-2006
In fairness, by saving her own neck from definate eviction you could say she played a blinder. However the flaw in the plan is that the way its been done it looks like Nikki got stitched up, making Lisa even more unpopular with the public. If the others don't nominate her, then yes she's saved her skin. If not, then she's hung herself by ensuring shes out on Friday.
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Balti:
“I don't think any of the naughty gang nominated tactically - they just didn't have time (or the brains) to think it through. The only one who perhaps would have played more tactically would have been Glyn - IF he had been the last to nominate.
Lea and Imogen were half way there with their tit for tat noms and then IMHO, Lisa and Nikki were trying to do the same, perhaps forgetting that Glyn had already nominated Nikki or in the belief that every name mentioned would be up for eviction and therefore it would be the 4 of them.”

Lisa knew Nikki had already been picked by Glyn
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by B10nd13:
“In fairness, by saving her own neck from definate eviction you could say she played a blinder. However the flaw in the plan is that the way its been done it looks like Nikki got stitched up, making Lisa even more unpopular with the public. If the others don't nominate her, then yes she's saved her skin. If not, then she's hung herself by ensuring shes out on Friday.”

This is exactly how I see it
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