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Why Is Lisa Getting Slagged Off For Playing A Blinder And Nominating Nikki????
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radio-one
20-06-2006
To me, both Nikki and Lisa are both good hms, they are not boring and like them or not they provide viewers something to talk about, unlike Susie, Mikey and Imogen.

However, I got quite fed up that many people on here think everything Lisa did ( or have not done) was wrong while Nikki is an innocent little princess who in actual fact did a lot of wrong stuff too.
tubmonsterbirds
20-06-2006
well said radio-one
radio-one
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by tubmonsterbirds:
“well said radio-one ”

Thank you
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by radio-one:
“To me, both Nikki and Lisa are both good hms, they are not boring and like them or not they provide viewers something to talk about, unlike Susie, Mikey and Imogen.

However, I got quite fed up that many people on here think everything Lisa did ( or have not done) was wrong while Nikki is an innocent little princess who in actual fact did a lot of wrong stuff too.”

I can't stand both Lisa nd Nikki but I give credit where one's due
TheDirector
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by bom-jiggy:
“Well, she knew if she'd picked Glyn then all 5 of them (the rule-breakers) would automatically be up for eviction. To have a slim chance of avoiding being up for the vote herself, she nominated Nikki. What's wrong with that ”

You are quite right in what you say about Lisa playing it tactically. However, unfortunately for her and you, should you ever enter the house, is that the public do not value such behaviour. In fact, to many of us it represents negative human qualities - selfishness, greed, lack of empathy for others etc.

And by the look on Lisa's face she realises this now. It is irrlevant that she might have temporarily saved herself, as her actions have cememted her departure (not that it needed cementing!). Lisa had one opportuinity to redeem her horrible behaviour in the house by casting a vote that would have put everybody up, but she chose selfish option.

In turn, this will act positively towards Nikki, whom already has her fans, but will gain further support due to victimisation.
Guyball89
20-06-2006
I totally agree, Lisa did play the game well. I do understand that, but its still annoyed me. Obviously because I want Nikki to win, but that punishment did seem a bit unfair to just ONE person (I would have said that even if it was Lea up, who I cant stand).
Neck_Romancer
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by bom-jiggy:
“Well, she knew if she'd picked Glyn then all 5 of them (the rule-breakers) would automatically be up for eviction. To have a slim chance of avoiding being up for the vote herself, she nominated Nikki. What's wrong with that ”

Absolutly nothing. That's what the game is about.

Oh and it landed nikki in the dog doo. Bargain
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by TheDirector:
“You are quite right in what you say about Lisa playing it tactically. However, unfortunately for her and you, should you ever enter the house, is that the public do not value such behaviour. In fact, to many of us it represents negative human qualities - selfishness, greed, lack of empathy for others etc.

And by the look on Lisa's face she realises this now. It is irrlevant that she might have temporarily saved herself, as her actions have cememted her departure (not that it needed cementing!). Lisa had one opportuinity to redeem her horrible behaviour in the house by casting a vote that would have put everybody up, but she chose selfish option.

In turn, this will act positively towards Nikki, whom already has her fans, but will gain further support due to victimisation.”

I hear you but the amount of vitriol thrown Lisa's way because of this would not have been thrown at, say, Pete and Nikki, if they were in her shoes
Verence
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by bom-jiggy:
“Are you forgetting her paranoia . She thinks once she's up, she's out ”

That's not paranoia, it's common sense
Verence
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by radio-one:
“However, I got quite fed up that many people on here think everything Lisa did ( or have not done) was wrong while Nikki is an innocent little princess who in actual fact did a lot of wrong stuff too.”

Poor ickle Nikki never does anything wrong
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by VERENCE:
“That's not paranoia, it's common sense”



She suffers from paranoia which is seperate from her eviction worries
Verence
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by moogester:
“If Nikki had any sense she would have nominated Lea or Imogen, then one of them would have been up with her.”

Sense and Nikki in the same sentence??? Shurely shome mishtake???
TheDirector
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by bom-jiggy:
“I hear you but the amount of vitriol thrown Lisa's way because of this would not have been thrown at, say, Pete and Nikki, if they were in her shoes ”

Yeah I know. It needs to be put into perspective. Lisa's not evil. I have never hated her, she is irritating and ignorant at times. She can be fun also and I dont mind the common touch personally.


Nonethless, her actions will simply do her no good. Yes she was trying to survive but in doing so she put the last nail in her coffin. Im sure in hindsight she will wish she made selfless act.
ramiz
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by RenThraysk:
“Lisa has to suspect she's going to be up. Lisa is always going to get evicted if up with Nikki, so how is that a "blinder"?
Its actually quiet dumb.”


abso-blooming-lutely
MeMeMe2
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by bom-jiggy:
“Like I said before, she was holding on to a slim chance that she might not be up for the vote. Putting Glyn up and Nikki putting her up would have automatically put her (Lisa) up for the vote. BTW, how do we know Nikki wouldn't have saved herself by picking someone else, assuming Lisa hadn't picked her and had picked Glyn instead ”

Watch tonight, the reaction on her face when she realises that she'd just made herself favourite for nomination by the 'goodies'.
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by MeMeMe2:
“Watch tonight, the reaction on her face when she realises that she'd just made herself favourite for nomination by the 'goodies'.”

That most have been after she realised the others would also be nominating, after having a go at Richard for apparently being "smug"
Dante Ameche
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by radio-one:
“To me, both Nikki and Lisa are both good hms, they are not boring and like them or not they provide viewers something to talk about, unlike Susie, Mikey and Imogen.

However, I got quite fed up that many people on here think everything Lisa did ( or have not done) was wrong while Nikki is an innocent little princess who in actual fact did a lot of wrong stuff too.”

All HM's have their good and bad points but some FM's tend to excuse the shortcomings of their favourites

If a HM irritates me to the point of wanting to vote them out [I don't do the voting thing ] then I don't want to see them on my screen anymore

I couldn't stand Shabazz or Sezer and they gave people a lot to talk about but I didn't find them entertaining in the slightest and was glad to see the back of them and don't miss them or their contribution to the house one iota

I might be the only one that says this but I'd rather watch HM's that are boring and nice but liked [by me] than irritating sly and vindictive, because I don't find that sort of behaviour entertaining
Verence
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by MeMeMe2:
“Watch tonight, the reaction on her face when she realises that she'd just made herself favourite for nomination by the 'goodies'.”

She knew she would be up after the whole Watergate and bike throwing on Friday night
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“All HM's have their good and bad points but some FM's tend to excuse the shortcomings of their favourites

If a HM irritates me to the point of wanting to vote them out [I don't do the voting thing ] then I don't want to see them on my screen anymore

I couldn't stand Shabazz or Sezer and they gave people a lot to talk about but I didn't find them entertaining in the slightest and was glad to see the back of them and don't miss them or their contribution to the house one iota

I might be the only one that says this but I'd rather watch HM's that are boring and nice but liked [by me] than irritating sly and vindictive, because I don't find that sort of behaviour entertaining”

I'm definitely with you on this one
steg1988
20-06-2006
Exactly, it's a game.
Cwej
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by JustinCredible:
“Which would have made her look like the back-stabber Lisa is.”

But she nominated Lisa, which is just as backstabbing as Lisa nominating Nikki. If Nikki was a big girl she'd have realised this is a game and that at the end of the day Lisa was just being sensible. It's ridiculous that she's threatened to leave over this - it's just the way the game goes and for the first time in 4 weeks Lisa used one of her few brain cells.
CLB
20-06-2006
well i think she's shot herself in the foot this time, she is likely to have been nominated by all the other HM's so will prob be up for eviction as will imogen or maybe Mikey, her odds of leaving will actually be significantly higher because of that action
sabbyoh
20-06-2006
To be fair to Lisa, I probably would have done the same. Why should she have put all 5 of them up for eviction, she wanted to nominate Nikki anyway. If I was in the house, I wouldn't put myself up for eviction. What's not fair about it? When I watched it, I didn't see anything sly about it, Lisa was just choosing the person she liked the least. She probably didn't even realise if she chose Glyn then they would all be up, I mean, shes not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
bom-jiggy
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by CLB:
“well i think she's shot herself in the foot this time, she is likely to have been nominated by all the other HM's so will prob be up for eviction as will imogen or maybe Mikey, her odds of leaving will actually be significantly higher because of that action”

In other words, it's a win-win situation for a lot of voters
Verence
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Cwej:
“It's ridiculous that she's threatened to leave over this .”

She was never going to walk, she was just acting up again

BTW is that Cwej as is Chris Cwej???
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